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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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Something I wanted to ask: why users from other forums have a discriminated view on Smashboards users? Is it because those places have more "toobigots" compared to here?
Most of us tend to be elitist, hasty generalization fallacy incoming; typically, Smashboards members are more intelligent and competent in regards to speculation (or at least we like to believe that we are). Therefore we have discriminated interpretations of other communities as well (the communities that rely on colloquialisms predominately, such as Miiverse or GameFAQs). Honestly, it is probably just an in-group versus out-group type of scenario.
 

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doesn't change the color and the c error (also, the fact that these error appear on the unlocked character just shows that they have been added which makes it not normal to see them unlocked).
Just proved the C thing wrong too. Working on the color one now ;)
 

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I think the issue is, Smashboards sections people off and filters them out so you would literally have to go somewhere you shouldn't be to be awful. Gamefaqs just throws everyone in a toilet and goes "TALK ABOUT STUFF" and it's just kind of... yeah.

EDIT: Right, right. Ridley. I just had to deal with some guy who was just going off about "What can Ridley even do in his moveset? scratch people lol".

I wish there was a 'throat punch through the internet' button. When I went on about how ANYONE can be simplified that much, they went on some rant I literally could not care less about on WHERE everyone's movesets came from, totally avoiding the actual point.
 
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Appreciate your enthusiasm guys, but don't stray from RidleyTalk onto general leak discussion or whatever other sites views on us are.
Thank you. NeoGAF vs. Smashboards vs. GameFAQS is a stupid topic to discuss since every forums always have their rotten apples and good apples.

Anyway, I hope that everyone are looking forward one of countdown GIF in the future since I have one more Ridley GIF ;)
 
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Appreciate your enthusiasm guys, but don't stray from RidleyTalk onto general leak discussion or whatever other sites views on us are.
Wouldn't this leak qualify as pertaining to Ridley, as if it was real it proves Ridley is playable?
 

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So, here's a question that's probably already been answered.

In that clip showing Ridley's shadow, Ridley seems to move strictly on the same plane as the fighters; he doesn't seem to move into or from the foreground or background. So, Ridley in that clip is just flying from one end of the stage to the other. My question is, would he have run into the floating platforms at any point? If he does, that seems kind of odd for a boss to do, doesn't it?
Totally. And we know its regular Pyrosphere.
 

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He's pointing at those lines...they look different
Doesn't a similar effect happen when you select a character on the roster screen in Brawl?
The outline differs slightly because of the selection and the portrait outline turns to blue because the 2nd player is blue-colored.
 

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EDIT: Right, right. Ridley. I just had to deal with some guy who was just going off about "What can Ridley even do in his moveset? scratch people lol".
You can say that with just about any newcomer. "What could Little Mac possibly do? punch people lol" or "why would you want Mega Man all he does is shoot people LMAO"
 

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You can say that with just about any newcomer. "What could Little Mac possibly do? punch people lol" or "why would you want Mega Man all he does is shoot people LMAO"
If they can make a moveset for Wii fit trainer. THEY CAN make a moveset for ridley.

(Seriously it can NOT be that hard)

EDIT: Oh yea, and also R.O.B
 
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When they showed Ridley's shadow in the Smash Direct, wasn't that sort of already confirming him as only a boss character for pyrosphere?
 

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If they can make a moveset for Wii fit trainer. THEY CAN make a moveset for ridley.

(Seriously it can NOT be that hard)
Yeah I don't see why people so desperately not want Ridley playable.

He has just as much moveset potential as the other playable bosses like Bowser and King Dedede. Heck he has more moveset options then Bowser....
 

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I have a What If scenario for you Ridley fans. I'm not sure if it's been brought up before but there's like 700+ pages here and I ain't readin all of them.

What if Sakurai straight up said, "Yes, we were 100% onboard with having Ridley be playable, and he wasn't going to be the bastardized shrunken down version. He was going to be bigger than Bowser but still playable. But it came to our attention that he was too big for the 3DS to handle so due to the 3DS limitations and both versions needing the same roster, even though the Wii U could handle him just fine, we decided to cut Ridley from the roster."

If that were the case, how pissed off would you guys be?
 

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When they showed Ridley's shadow in the Smash Direct, wasn't that sort of already confirming him as only a boss character for pyrosphere?
That's where the controversy is. They never actually outright say he was a boss, they say he was a 'boss character'

Technically, lots of the playable cast are boss characters (dedede, ganondorf, bowser)

Also, the section he was shown off in was the 'Stages' section. Not hazards, not bosses.

Lastly, there was a lot of small coy stuff going on that video, between Sakurai's trolls on ZSS and Palutena, and the fact that they both cut the volume on the section where they show ridley, and never actually show him, or mention him by name

So while definitely not confirming he's playable or not, it certainly throws some sand in our eyes.
 

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When they showed Ridley's shadow in the Smash Direct, wasn't that sort of already confirming him as only a boss character for pyrosphere?
If it was, this thread probably wouldn't exist anymore.
 

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You can say that with just about any newcomer. "What could Little Mac possibly do? punch people lol" or "why would you want Mega Man all he does is shoot people LMAO"
The key difference with them and Ridley is that, at the very least, the first thing that comes to your mind when you think of Little Mac or Mega Man is that he punches and that he shoots, respectively.

With Ridley, the first thing that comes to mind is "flying around spewing fireballs", yet people think he can only scratch. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure there hasn't been a single moment in the history of Metroid where Ridley's main method of attack is using his claws to scratch people.
 
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The key difference with them and Ridley is that, at the very least, the first thing that comes to your mind when you think of Little Mac or Mega Man is that he punches and that he shoots, respectively.

With Ridley, the first thing that comes to mind is "flying around spewing fireballs", yet people think he can only scratch. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure there hasn't been a single moment in the history of Metroid where Ridley's main method of attack is using his claws to scratch people.
He did it in Metroid Prime, after being forced to land on the ground.
 

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That's where the controversy is. They never actually outright say he was a boss, they say he was a 'boss character'

Technically, lots of the playable cast are boss characters (dedede, ganondorf, bowser)

Also, the section he was shown off in was the 'Stages' section. Not hazards, not bosses.

Lastly, there was a lot of small coy stuff going on that video, between Sakurai's trolls on ZSS and Palutena, and the fact that they both cut the volume on the section where they show ridley, and never actually show him, or mention him by name

So while definitely not confirming he's playable or not, it certainly throws some sand in our eyes.
In short, Sakurai used Sand Attack and lowered our accuracy to tell if Ridley is playable or not.
 

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That's where the controversy is. They never actually outright say he was a boss, they say he was a 'boss character'

Technically, lots of the playable cast are boss characters (dedede, ganondorf, bowser)

Also, the section he was shown off in was the 'Stages' section. Not hazards, not bosses.

Lastly, there was a lot of small coy stuff going on that video, between Sakurai's trolls on ZSS and Palutena, and the fact that they both cut the volume on the section where they show ridley, and never actually show him, or mention him by name

So while definitely not confirming he's playable or not, it certainly throws some sand in our eyes.
I guess I see what you mean, Sakurai does try to be unpredictable.
 
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When they showed Ridley's shadow in the Smash Direct, wasn't that sort of already confirming him as only a boss character for pyrosphere?
Are you new here or what?
I have a What If scenario for you Ridley fans. I'm not sure if it's been brought up before but there's like 700+ pages here and I ain't readin all of them.

What if Sakurai straight up said, "Yes, we were 100% onboard with having Ridley be playable, and he wasn't going to be the *******ized shrunken down version. He was going to be bigger than Bowser but still playable. But it came to our attention that he was too big for the 3DS to handle so due to the 3DS limitations and both versions needing the same roster, even though the Wii U could handle him just fine, we decided to cut Ridley from the roster."

If that were the case, how pissed off would you guys be?
100/10 if this was the case, he would have shown Ridley already, besides, there isn't something like that, the 3DS can handle him just fine
 

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I have a What If scenario for you Ridley fans. I'm not sure if it's been brought up before but there's like 700+ pages here and I ain't readin all of them.

What if Sakurai straight up said, "Yes, we were 100% onboard with having Ridley be playable, and he wasn't going to be the *******ized shrunken down version. He was going to be bigger than Bowser but still playable. But it came to our attention that he was too big for the 3DS to handle so due to the 3DS limitations and both versions needing the same roster, even though the Wii U could handle him just fine, we decided to cut Ridley from the roster."

If that were the case, how pissed off would you guys be?
Ridley/10
Believe me that's a big number.
The key difference with them and Ridley is that, at the very least, the first thing that comes to your mind when you think of Little Mac or Mega Man is that he punches and that he shoots, respectively.

With Ridley, the first thing that comes to mind is "flying around spewing fireballs", yet people think he can only scratch. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure there hasn't been a single moment in the history of Metroid where Ridley's main method of attack is using his claws to scratch people.
The Dynablade rip-off from Brawl don't use a single fireball (Meta Ridley does tough for some reasons) and it seems to me that a lot of people who say that Ridley would be a clone and don't have moveset potential have only ever fought Ridley in this game =/
 

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The Dynablade rip-off from Brawl don't use a single fireball (Meta Ridley does tough for some reasons) and it seems to me that a lot of people who say that Ridley would be a clone and don't have moveset potential have only ever fought Ridley in this game =/
And that's why it's a bad idea to argue against a character's inclusion without any knowledge of the character itself.
 

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Wouldn't this leak qualify as pertaining to Ridley, as if it was real it proves Ridley is playable?
Certainly. But people seem to be discussing the leak itself rather than the implications of Ridley being on it.

On another note, I'd hate to argue semantics, but much like the infamous shadow/boss segment, the leak doesn't actually mention Ridley by name.
 

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On another note, I'd hate to argue semantics, but much like the infamous shadow/boss segment, the leak doesn't actually mention Ridley by name.
Name a single other Metroid character that has a name that needs in Y and is just long enough to not take up the entire box.

Like I get avoiding the leak people are discussing it and not Ridley, but come on.
 

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So, based on the wing-shadows of Ridley, do you think that they've updated his appearance?

The shadows of the second wing-bone don't seem quite as long as Other M Ridley. Maybe they're pulling out the concept art for his Sm4sh appearance?
 

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Certainly. But people seem to be discussing the leak itself rather than the implications of Ridley being on it.

On another note, I'd hate to argue semantics, but much like the infamous shadow/boss segment, the leak doesn't actually mention Ridley by name.
1. the guy who posted the "y leak" is not the same guy who posted the original 2 pictures
2. the original leaker, after posting the 3rd and last picture, said that you unlock ridley and megaman when beating tourney mode, so if the leak is real than ridley is in.
 
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Hey, don't diss Joey!

Joey was a better Robin than friggin Robin!
Who said I was dissing him? I'm just making a joke that "Joey" is short enough to not cover the space and ends with "Y".

I literally don't know anything about him other that he exists in some manga.
 

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Name a single other Metroid character that has a name that needs in Y and is just long enough to not take up the entire box.

Like I get avoiding the leak people are discussing it and not Ridley, but come on.
"Remember me ? " And at least still alive.

:nifty:Don't kill me.
 
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"Remember me ? " And at least still alive.

:nifty:Don't kill me.
He meant other than Anthony, since he was already talking about him. With context that "Anthony" would take up the whole rectangle, and thus it couldn't have been him in that image.

Unlike "Ridley", "Baby", or "Joey".
 
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Name a single other Metroid character that has a name that needs in Y and is just long enough to not take up the entire box.

Like I get avoiding the leak people are discussing it and not Ridley, but come on.
The possibility exists that it's not a Metroid character at all. But I digress, that would be continuing non-Ridley leak discussion.

Also Gray Voice, Lily Thran, and Rodney, Samus' father.
 

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The possibility exists that it's not a Metroid character at all. But I digress, that would be continuing non-Ridley leak discussion.

Also Gray Voice, Lily Thran, and Rodney, Samus' father.
Has to be a Metroid character, you can see the Player two cursor over it, and in the bottom left you can see that said selected character has the Metroid symbol.
 

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The possibility exists that it's not a Metroid character at all. But I digress, that would be continuing non-Ridley leak discussion.

Also Gray Voice, Lily Thran, and Rodney, Samus' father.
Given how the image suggest the second (blue) player selected that slot, and the respective player box shows a blue Metroid symbol, it's clear it has to be a Metroid character.

EDIT: Oops, ninja'd.
 
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Was taking into account the people saying the 3rd image wasn't from the same person/was already debunked or whatever. Not that I think some small detail like that really means anything, or that I'm actually following discussion surrounding it.
 
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