Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[majora_787]

What is with all of the detractors with really bad excuses today. This thread grew at LEAST six pages while I wasn't looking today alone.

 

[Hotfeet444]

This night's arguments lead to...nothing changing despite all the facts being displayed...*Facedesk*

 

[CometX-ing]

...You are aware that there is a stage from Other M in the game, right?

I mean, I'd assume this is impossible to forget, but you didn't mention it, and it's kind of significant.

And, again, Metroid Other M is still a fairly recent game that could still be pushed, and, again, Ridley's effect on Smash sales alone could justify his inclusion from a business standpoint.

Now, out of curiosity, do you still believe Ridley is impossible at this point?

I never said he was impossible but that I thought he would not be in the game, but yeah I'm still standing by that.

 

[The King of Skulls]

Kap K. Rool is K. Rool in a costume, he did not get mutated of transformed like Ridley.

Substitute Kaptain and King for Dry Bowser and Bowser and the point still stands.

 

[False Sense]

What is with all of the detractors with really bad excuses today. This thread grew at LEAST six pages while I wasn't looking today alone.

I think it's seven now.

 

[domokl]

I dunno man its like they had a meeting on what day to attack the ridley thread. But WE WON

 

[majora_787]

On this day, the Ridley thread received a grim reminder... that people STILL think Ridley is somehow the exception to every video game character which exists.

 

[domokl]

Its funny because I make an account expect to see a peaceful ridley thread at night but NOPE. Then I just jumped right in to the heated debate. We all know the day before e3 the detractors will come in full force so we best be ready for battle

 

[OblivionWolf]

Gotta love how the Ridley thread is almost bigger then the character discussion thread.

No doubt Ridley is the most talked about character in the Smash community ever.

 

[aldelaro5]

Whoo... That was too much trolly for my taste can we go back to usual discussions and jokes? Some people should just not talk instead of posting things like that.

 

[domokl]

Jokes should lighten up the mood a bit

 

[Hotfeet444]

Well, while this entire night has been pointless, I had a few chuckles here and there so I'll give it a pass. Although I'm glad you're all still sensible...however, I'm tired, I have work to do for college, and I'm gone. G'night and...yay for a victory? I dunno, it doesn't feel as if anything was accomplished.

 

[SvartWolf]

sooooo, why Ridley and rosalina shiping is a thing? I dunno exactly why. but i feel like a compelling pair, to the point i would gladly use her as a teammate in doubles XD

but the only way i see it working is Rosalina being some kind of galactic empress ...

hehehe

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Call me crazy, but the sheer number of people that think Ridley should be playable implies that his resizing IS possible.

I can say on this thread with complete certainty that Kraid, Metroid Prime (NOT Dark Samus) and Mother Brain will never be playable characters due to their size, and nobody will bat an eye or refute my claims because they're not as notable or demanded as Ridley.

(I swear if ANY of these supporters pop up I will smack something)

 

[domokl]

sooooo, why Ridley and rosalina shiping is a thing? I dunno exactly why. but i feel like a compelling pair, to the point i would gladly use her as a teammate in doubles XD

but the only way i see it working is Rosalina being some kind of galactic empress ...

hehehe

You have got to admit though that's a pretty awesome paring though. A galactic princess and a space dragon.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Lol what the hell happened here?

funny stuff.

/Lurks some more

 

[ppbto]

Well, I guess this battle is over.

I will go back to work on my thesis.

 

[domokl]

I find it kind of mind boggling how many people changed opinons on dark samus after seeing the assist trophy. First they though she would be a pointless clone then after the direct they said how awesome she would be. That being said after ridley I say dark samus should be next in line

 

[OblivionWolf]

Jokes should lighten up the mood a bit

Umm.....HEY LOOK!!! Ridley has been downsized!!! Look at his size compared to those people! AND look how much they don't care that he is smaller.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

On this day, the Ridley thread received a grim reminder... that people STILL think Ridley is somehow the exception to every video game character which exists.

As Judgement Day approaches, the loyal and true are tested by all sides.

Something something Biblical references and Samurai is God.

 

[domokl]

As Judgement Day approaches, the loyal and true are tested by all sides.

Something something Biblical references and Samurai is God.

True. As e3 gets closer the detractors will send more and more people here……after tonight though I don't doubt our abilty to keep fighting. GO RIDLEYYY.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Anyhow, that was a fun activity.

Now back to these shadow pics.

So...normal grab, or special grab?

Methinks its a special grab like these. Perhaps Ridley is inheriting Bowser's Koopa Klaw.

 

[IsmaR]

Assuming Ridley is a boss (Just roll with it for now), what do you think the big reward would be for defeating him first?

A ton of health pickups spawn over the victor?

A suicide bombing run on the other combatants?

A huge, friggin explosion?

A free car?

I apologize for not replying to this earlier, but I feel like we didn't need anymore people playing devil's advocate.

I actually think he'd pull his whole Other M escape routine, with him falling to the ground/playing dead, then suddenly getting up and attacking everyone but the player who defeated him before escaping through the infamous hole. This could even incorporate a command grab ending in his trademark wall-grind attack, followed by a pointblank fire breath attack.

Not saying I'd settle for/be happy for anything less than him being playable, but if he reprises his boss role, I expect it to be a hella good boss this time.

 

[SvartWolf]

well, now im out, but before going!
Rosalina should really be a galactic empress...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

@ Angelglory
@Oasis_S

I have a proposition for you two...

Remember that thread with all of the canon sizes?

Why not make one picture with all of the different Ridley sizes for each game he appeared in?

Partially because it could show how his size varies per game.

And partially because we feel like we have something to prove.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

@ Angelglory
@Oasis_S

I have a proposition for you two...

Remember that thread with all of the canon sizes?

Why not make one picture with all of the different Ridley sizes for each game he appeared in?

Partially because it could show how his size varies per game.

And partially because we feel like we have something to prove.

Sounds like a good idea. Who should we use for basis of relative size, Samus?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Sounds like a good idea. Who should we use for basis of relative size, Samus?

Yeah sure. Have Samus with her canon 6 something foot or whatever....

And the rest of the Ridleys their approximate height.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Yeah sure. Have Samus with her canon 6 something foot or whatever....

And the rest of the Ridleys their approximate height.

Out of curiosity, is there 3D models of trophies online?

I mean, it's not necessary, but I'd like to see this model given bones and compared just for fun.

 

[Deleted member]

On the topic of the Ridley Shadow pictures, where exactly do we see Pikachu being grabbed by Ridley? Is it that part of Pikachu's ear is plausibly visible in the lower claw shadow of Ridley's in the second picture that @ Dalek_Kolt posted? Also, going back to what I said a couple pages ago, does anyone else think that the backwards movement at the end of the Ridley Shadow clip could be a second jump backwards?

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

On the topic of the Ridley Shadow pictures, where exactly do we see Pikachu being grabbed by Ridley? Is it that part of Pikachu's ear is plausibly visible in the lower claw shadow of Ridley's in the second picture that @ Dalek_Kolt posted? Also, going back to what I said a couple pages ago, does anyone else think that the backwards movement at the end of the Ridley Shadow clip could be a second jump backwards?

One Pikachu, comin' right up.

As I've said before, the platforms of the Pyrosphere have been tucked out of sight to extend the illusion that Ridley can fly pretty much forever. He likely landed on the left platform offscreen, then jumped.

 

[majora_787]

It's really hard to say exactly what happens, but it definitely seems to be Ridley flying left, stopping, picking up Pikachu, not moving or doing anything to Pikachu, Pikachu escaping the grab, and Ridley moving left and then right again as it cuts out.

 

[Anomilus]

@ Angelglory
@Oasis_S

I have a proposition for you two...

Remember that thread with all of the canon sizes?

Why not make one picture with all of the different Ridley sizes for each game he appeared in?

Partially because it could show how his size varies per game.

And partially because we feel like we have something to prove.

Heh I had thought about that while getting through all the debating.

If they do that, they also need to have every Samus from each related game as well, and make them all the same size to further emphasize just how different Ridley is throughout each game.

 

[AustarusIV]

In Dr. Wiley's Castle, didn't the platforms for the stage disappear when the Yellow Devil appeared? I was wondering about that, because it could have been the same scenario in that clip.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

It's really hard to say exactly what happens, but it definitely seems to be Ridley flying left, stopping, picking up Pikachu, not moving or doing anything to Pikachu, Pikachu escaping the grab, and Ridley moving left and then right again as it cuts out.

Using this gfycat for reference:
http://gfycat.com/SentimentalBronzeIndianrhinoceros#

Frames 0-98: Flying animation
Frames 99-140ish: Ridley grabbing Pikachu animation
Frames 140ish-215: Idling flying grab animation
Frames 216-225: Pikachu escaping RIdley's grasp animation
Frames 226-261: Flying animation
The rest: Jumping right

 

[majora_787]

I believe the stages did indeed have moving platforms. But really, let's assume Twinrova and Dark Emperor are stage bosses and look at stage hazards going on.

1) Moving platforms
2) Nothing but the boss from what we can determine at the moment
3) The breakable bridge in the center

And then we have Pyrosphere, which is very likely to have a lava hazard which is significantly more invasive than a moving platform or a breakable bridge. Especially if it were to do strange things as it did in Norfair, or if it were actually a stage of the Pyrosphere and not the Geothermal Plant.

EDIT: Oh, yes. The behavior at the very least seems extremely unlike AI, let alone a boss, but we can't tell what is going on in regards to Ridley's flight or platforms or anything like that.

 

[Angelglory]

I didn't read a damn thing that happened, but we were at 670-ish pages and now we're almost at 700...

I heard jokes were needed though, so...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I didn't read a damn thing that happened, but we were at 670-ish pages and now we're almost at 700...

I heard jokes were needed though, so...

@ Angelglory
@Oasis_S

I have a proposition for you two...

Remember that thread with all of the canon sizes?

Why not make one picture with all of the different Ridley sizes for each game he appeared in?

Partially because it could show how his size varies per game.

And partially because we feel like we have something to prove.

Would you be interested in this?

 

[IsmaR]

Personally I feel like you guys hassle them too often.

 

[domokl]

Jeez the ridley supporter army is getting really big again. We are definetly doing something worthwhile. We have convinced a lot since the direct. This is really good

 

[AustarusIV]

Jeez the ridley supporter army is getting really big again. We are definetly doing something worthwhile. We have convinced a lot since the direct. This is really good

It will either only get bigger, or be forced to take a detour into Mod Land.