Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Dalek_Kolt]

I'm not sure I follow.

There's a very nice foreground and background that Ridley can put his wings in without fear of people attacking him, thus reducing his hitbox as much as possible.

 

[majora_787]

Basically, Ridley while flying would face straight left or straight right. This would cause one wing to be in the foreground and one to be in the background while he is flying, essentially making them VISIBLE but not part of his hitboxes.

 

[HipsandChips]

I just watched that like 50 times and Pickachu does NOT get picked up.

 

[majora_787]

I just watched that like 50 times and Pickachu does NOT get picked up.

So you have definitive evidence of the actual event and not the shadow and can factually share with us that Pikachu wasn't picked up? Well then what are you doing? Give us the footage that isn't nothing but a bunch of shadow movement.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

So you have definitive evidence of the actual event and not the shadow and can factually share with us that Pikachu wasn't picked up? Well then what are you doing? Give us the footage that isn't nothing but a bunch of shadow movement.

Bein an ass, Francis.

 

[OblivionWolf]

So you have definitive evidence of the actual event and not the shadow and can factually share with us that Pikachu wasn't picked up? Well then what are you doing? Give us the footage that isn't nothing but a bunch of shadow movement.

Yeah some people say its not happening cause we can't see the grab or the let go clearly. I definitely believe Pikachu is there though.

 

[Deleted member]

Bein an ***, Francis.

I hate Ridley.
And Palutena, and Mewtwo, and Shulk.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

I hate Ridley.
And Palutena, and Mewtwo, and Shulk.

Ok?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I just watched that like 50 times and Pickachu does NOT get picked up.

Guys...

I agree with him.

I can't see Pikachu at all once he walks off screen.

The shadow might be Ridley's feet dropping down if anything.

 

[Deleted member]

Ok?

Well you mentioned Francis and I thought it was a Left 4 Dead thing ANDIWASJUSTMAKINGAJOKEGOD

 

[Bravetriforcer]

Well you mentioned Francis and I thought it was a Left 4 Dead thing ANDIWASJUSTMAKINGAJOKEGOD

You gotta preface each thing with "I hate" for that to work, man.

"I hate Ridley."
"I hate Palutena."
"I hate Pikachu not being grabbed by Ridley."
"I hate light green Yoshi."

 

[Oasis_S]

@Sehnsucht I mean I thought you were saying if I'm as cute as my avatar then you'd want me to blow you... but i see you didn't think I'm cute at all... you were just talking about the poop...

NO I'M NOT CRYING. I JUST... I JUST WENT DOWN ON A LADY IS ALL AND MY FACE GOT A LITTLE WET GEEZ LEAVE ME ALONE *Sniffle*

 

[majora_787]

I don't know. I can see Pikachu when I look at it pretty well in particular parts of the gif. And I have no idea why other people can't see it. But shrug.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

I don't know. I can see Pikachu when I look at it pretty well in particular parts of the gif. And I have no idea why other people can't see it. But shrug.

Unless you're talking about the very end of the clip where Ridley has some sort of spasm, I'm not sure you're in your right mind wit hthis.

 

[OblivionWolf]

Guys...

I agree with him.

I can't see Pikachu at all once he walks off screen.

The shadow might be Ridley's feet dropping down if anything.

I don't know even with shadow skewing I don't see how he could be that lopsided.

You can clearly see his left hand/fist and his foot right under it... Then the right side.....Just so much larger and longer. (Colored in picture again)

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2..._2014_04_10_um_23_35_45_by_lilt92-d7dxcjy.png

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I watched it again, and what I THOUGHT was Pikachu's tail is probably Ridley's tail

LOL

I'm with the NO PICK UP PIKACHU folks again

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Of my big size thing im working on its going to get so many likes trust me

 

[OblivionWolf]

I watched it again, and what I THOUGHT was Pikachu's tail is probably Ridley's tail

LOL

I'm with the NO PICK UP PIKACHU folks again

This is known....Again this picture.

http://smashboards.com/attachments/roidleypikatail-png.12553/

 

[Bravetriforcer]

Oh I see

http://gfycat.com/ComfortableIncompatibleAzurewingedmagpie#

In this gfy, when Ridley's leg's swing forward? Is that what you're attributing to being a grab?

It's a stretch, but still possible. Would make more sense for an aerial grab than arms I guess.

Edit: OH MY GOD

 

[Oasis_S]

Andrea why do you keep liking my posts when I'm being a gigantic weirdo.

 

[AndreaAC]

Andrea why do you keep liking my posts when I'm being a gigantic weirdo.

xD sorry Oasis....they are kinda funny......

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

I'm as cute as my avatar.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

Guys seriously that's Pikachu in Ridley's foot holy ****.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Guys seriously that's Pikachu in Ridley's foot holy ****.

Old news we knew that from day 1 between day 5 that pikachu was in ridleys foot

 

[majora_787]

It's weird because in my opinion, Pikachu is actually harder to see when you stop the picture. But when it's moving I can definitely see Pikachu's body and tail in Ridley's foot.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

It's weird because in my opinion, Pikachu is actually harder to see when you stop the picture. But when it's moving I can definitely see Pikachu's body and tail in Ridley's foot.

Looking more over it, that's because that's Ridley's tail. The shadow separates from the foot as Ridley swings back and forth. It just looks like Pikachu's tail because of how it goes over the grate. I can see little points that might still be Pikachu's ears, but they can just as easily be Ridley's toes.

 

[majora_787]

Looking more over it, that's because that's Ridley's tail. The shadow separates from the foot as Ridley swings back and forth. It just looks like Pikachu's tail because of how it goes over the grate. I can see little points that might still be Pikachu's ears, but they can just as easily be Ridley's toes.

The thing is, Ridley's tail is not flat. Nor is Ridley's foot. Pikachu's tail is distinctively flat and thin. You can see the lightning bolt shape of Pikachu's tail turn sideways and become extremely thin and papery in the shadow. That would be Pikachu.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm having a hard time seeing Pikachu anywhere in the shadow, just looks like Ridley's foot to me.
And how will this in any way help his chances to begin with, may I ask?

 

[Bravetriforcer]

I'm having a hard time seeing Pikachu anywhere in the shadow, just looks like Ridley's foot to me.
And how will this in any way help his chances to begin with, may I ask?

Ok the tail is actually Ridley's, with the perspective making it resemble Pikachu's. BUT the left foot is a singular blob, while the left foo has open space between the toes. So while Pikachu may have been grabbed, its tail is not visible in the shadow. Slow down the gfycat to .125 to see it better.

 

[Kalimdori]

I'm having a hard time seeing Pikachu anywhere in the shadow, just looks like Ridley's foot to me.
And how will this in any way help his chances to begin with, may I ask?

Doesn't really effect his chances imo. Regardless of whether he grabs Pikachu and just sits there, or just hovers there in general, it's still very unbosslike.

 

[majora_787]

Ok the tail is actually Ridley's, with the perspective making it resemble Pikachu's. BUT the left foot is a singular blob, while the left foo has open space between the toes. So while Pikachu may have been grabbed, its tail is not visible in the shadow. Slow down the gfycat to .125 to see it better.

You aren't understanding. You can see the tail turn with the swaying motion of the shadow and it is easily possible to see the distinctive broad paper-thinness of Pikachu's tail. No perspective is going to contort Ridley's tail to make it go from round to two dimensional and suddenly grow a different shape on the end of it. Or maybe I'm wrong and my perception of reality has been horribly distorted for years. That's fine too, but somehow I think that's slightly less likely.

 

[Deleted member]

Ok the tail is actually Ridley's, with the perspective making it resemble Pikachu's. BUT the left foot is a singular blob, while the left foo has open space between the toes. So while Pikachu may have been grabbed, its tail is not visible in the shadow. Slow down the gfycat to .125 to see it better.

Yeah, I do kinda see it now (only very slightly), but my second question still stands;
why in the ever loving hell are you guys discussing this anyway

Doesn't really effect his chances imo. Regardless of whether he grabs Pikachu and just sits there, or just hovers there in general, it's still very unbosslike.

True, but to be fair the Yellow Devil kinda just stands there and shoots, maybe moving every once in a while. Not saying Ridley isn't going the be playable, but honestly you guys are just over-analyzing this way to much. We'll know his fate come E3, just have a bit of patience. It's only a bit over a month away, after all.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

I'm having a hard time seeing Pikachu anywhere in the shadow, just looks like Ridley's foot to me.
And how will this in any way help his chances to begin with, may I ask?

It doesn't help it, but it doesn't hurt it either, which is why I don't particularly care if Ridley's grappling Pikachu or not.

Bosses that can grab characters:

Master Hand
Crazy Hand
Tabuu

Characters that can grab characters AND have a range of mobility:
Donkey Kong
Kirby
King Dedede

 

[Bravetriforcer]

You aren't understanding. You can see the tail turn with the swaying motion of the shadow and it is easily possible to see the distinctive broad paper-thinness of Pikachu's tail. No perspective is going to contort Ridley's tail to make it go from round to two dimensional and suddenly grow a different shape on the end of it. Or maybe I'm wrong and my perception of reality has been horribly distorted for years. That's fine too, but somehow I think that's slightly less likely.

And you aren't seeing that tail actually swings separately from the blob on the left foot. It might be a perspective thing with Pikachu's tail, but it can also be a perspective thing with Ridley's.

Yeah, I do kinda see it now (only very slightly), but my second question still stands;
why in the ever loving hell are you guys discussing this anyway

True, but to be fair the Yellow Devil kinda just stands there and shoots, maybe moving every once in a while. Not saying Ridley isn't going the be playable, but honestly you guys are just over-analyzing this way to much. We'll know his fate come E3, just have a bit of patience. It's only a bit over a month away, after all.

Because, I ams a tones chaser.

 

[NastCF]

So uhm, I was looking at the image I made where I compared Bowser's size to Ridley's, and realized it's actually not even close to accurate, so I decided to make another one using some perspective tricks. I put a lot of thought into this one so it should be the definitive reference for his size.

Sorry if it's confusing.

Orange is Bowser's size.
Purple is the size of Ridley's shadow in its original position.
White is the size of Ridley's shadow lined up with Bowser's. That way we can compare the two more accurately.

So on the right, that's Ridley's size. He's... almost twice as tall as Bowser. That doesn't bode well for him. :/

EDIT: cleaned the images up a bit.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

So uhm, I was looking at the image I made where I compared Bowser's size to Ridley's, and realized it's actually not even close to accurate, so I decided to make another one using some perspective tricks. I put a lot of thought into this one so it should be the definitive reference for his size.

Sorry if it's confusing.

Orange is Bowser's size.
Purple is the size of Ridley's shadow in its original position.
White is the size of Ridley's shadow lined up with Bowser's. That way we can compare the two more accurately.

So on the right, that's Ridley's size. He's... almost twice as tall as Bowser. That doesn't bode well for him. :/

I see lines and dots, but I sure as heck can't read it.

 

[SchAlternate]

So on the right, that's Ridley's size. He's... almost twice as tall as Bowser. That doesn't bode well for him. :/

You mean, if Ridley is standing tall?

If that's the case he can simply be hunched over like he always do.

 

[AndreaAC]

xD I think I'm starting to like doing those interactions between Ridley and Roidley....

 

[NastCF]

I see lines and dots, but I sure as heck can't read it.

Sorry, I cleaned it up a bit, hopefully it's easier to read.

You mean, if Ridley is standing tall?

If that's the case he can simply be hunched over like he always do.

No, that height is considering he IS hunched over, meaning he would be even taller if he was standing straight.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

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xD I think I'm starting to like doing those interactions between Ridley and Roidley....

Its a classic brotherly bonding story.

The elder is wiser of the ways of the world, and utterly loathes his younger self.

The younger is more naive and innocent, and looks up to his older self out of respect and fear, but not affection.

And at the moment they finally grow to accept each other, Samus blows one of them to smithereens, causing the other to attempt avenging his brother's death.