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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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Maybe I ought to post a TL;DR version of my previous post...

Sakurai doesn't "Troll".

Sakurai pulls pranks.

Throughout the direct he was pulling pranks. He is known to do stuff like this and has even admitted he's a bit of a prankster.

The way he revealed Ridley this direct was NOT a prank. There's not precedent of him pulling a prank of this nature. This can be considered genuine trolling, but Sakurai may have not intended to do so.

The situation surrounding Palutena and Ridley has one key difference we may have overlooked: She has never been alluded to be in the game while Ridley was alluded to when the Pyrosphere was revealed.

We keep saying he's trolling, but he's really being a prankster. And his pranks are understood quickly and funny. This Ridley situation isn't quick or funny. It's horribly drawn out and cruel.
 

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The choppy animation thing makes sense quite a bit.
Look at Brawl's bossfight. Quite fluent animations right?

Here's SSB4's Ridley footage for comparison:

Still, it's hard to say just considering a shadow. Maybe the case that it's nothing.

Also, I wonder why Sakurai chose to use Ridley's Boss Theme while showing the King Kihunter Trophy. I mean he had his own bosstheme. However, maybe his choise was just for recognization of the metroid franchise.
 
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I posted this in the Official Character Discussion Thread but I want to make sure people here can see it too

I'm completely convinced that Ridley will in fact be playable.

Here's my logic:

1) Sakurai has never acted intentionally mean towards, or taunted, Smash fans. All of his so-called "trolls", such as the pseudo-Palutena trophy and the Zero Suit Samus disconfirmation fakeout, turned, or will turn, disappointing news into good news:
  • Everyone considers Palutena to be a shoe-in at this point, so the trophy fakeout was just a tease where Sakurai was basically saying, "Ha, I bet you thought I was going to show Palutena in SSB4 for the first time! Nope!" He knows that just about everyone knows she'll be playable, and that everyone wants to see her. So as long as he eventually brings good news to the fans (a playable Palutena, which will certainly happen), this bait and switch will in retrospect be viewed as a simple and goodhearted prank.
  • With the Zamus prank, it only took a few seconds for him to say "nah, she's back and better than ever!"
  • All of his other jokes have been lighthearted, and only unreasonable people thought that the Waluigi thing was a cruel taunt at Waluigi's supporters.
2) With Ridley, Sakurai knows that Smash fans, for as long as Ridley isn't explicitly acknowledged in a direct quote from Sakurai to be a boss/hazard and nothing else, will expect that his crypticness regarding Ridley and the way he dances around Ridley's role in Smash 4 is just another one of Sakurai's "make it look bad at first, then reveal it as good and cause hype" pranks.

3) Sakurai knows that the fans are on pins and needles waiting to find out if Ridley is a playable character in SSB4. He also knows that Ridley is requested more than anyone save Mewtwo worldwide.

4) Therefore, Sakurai knows that we (the massive group of Ridley fans) will stay hopeful and expect Ridley to be playable as long as Sakurai keeps up the crypticness, just as he knows that Palutena's fans will stay hyped for as long as he teases things like the trophy takeout, Palutena's Temple, the PotD of the 3 goddesses (Viridi, Rosalina, Zelda) on the night of the Palutena leak, etc. Sakurai also knows that we will be very upset if Ridley ultimately does end up as non-playable. Sakurai also knows that we, the fans, will think poorly of his character if the ultimate outcome of all of this is that Ridley isn't playable. He knows that we expect him to treat fans and their wishes with respect.

Sakurai is a goodnatured, smart and logical guy. He doesn't want the fans to be upset, and, moreover, doesn't want the fans to be mad at him for cruelly stringing them along all this time.

Therefore, he wouldn't treat Ridley as such a mystery (his enigmatic comment for the Pyrosphere reveal pic of the day, showing just Ridley's shadow, showing dozens of Pyrosphere pics with no Ridley, etc) for so long without ultimately giving fans what they want: playable Ridley.

To sum it up, Sakurai is as much aware of the current meta-environment surrounding the speculation of Ridley's involvement in Smash 4 as we are.

Ridley will be playable.
I like this but I'm still not getting my hopes up because of this

Athough here's one more supicous thing

You know when pikachu was going Perpendicular to the stage you know left to right I did not see ridley go up or down from the stage I think he stayed perpendicular to the stage as well

I mean I can agree the shadow and the trophy with Ridleys theme could be a tease but I'm not getting my hopes up
 

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Sorry, but I've basically given up all hope on Ridley here. It's a shame, but Sakurai just doesn't see him as an appropriate character inclusion it seems. Honestly, I think Ridley was probably doomed as far as back in 2006, when Sakurai said this:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2006/05/31/sakurais-smash-bros-update

I put Zero Suit Samus in thinking I wanted to include more characters from the popular Metroid series. Also, since Smash Bros. has few female characters, I was quite happy to include her.
Now, as far as Metroid newcomers go, wouldn't Ridley be the very first and best option, like how Dedede and MK were the best (and only) options for new Kirby characters? He's been Samus's nemesis all these years and is generally the most prolific character in the series besides her. And yet, he just decided to include an alternate form of Samus.

But as I mentioned before, I don't think Sakurai is really that spiteful towards Metroid fans. In Brawl, the series got another character, two stages, two bosses in SSE, an assist trophy, and a good amount of trophies, stickers, music tracks, etc. This game doesn't seem to be too different, especially when it appears there are three Metroid ATs (Metroid, Dark Samus, Mother Brain), and the series now has two full slots on the roster (Samus and ZSS). At the end of the day, he probably just doesn't think Ridley is workable as far as playable characters go.

I feel like, with Sakurai not outright showing Ridley off, he's just trying to soften the blow, really. Just trying to get us prepared, because he perhaps figured the western audience would be enraged if completely shown off as a hazard/boss.
 
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ill Make this clear. Im not a ridly supporter, as a matter of fact 2 months ago was completely against him. ( Stoped caring because he has a strong fan base)
But when sakurai showed his shadow on pyrophere that was undeniable proof that he was playable. sakurai is trolling if he was not he woulda showed him attacking people on the stage. And now to my more concrete point, if you watch the shadow it looks like an idle animation but it seriously felt like some one tilted the control stick when ridly's shadow moved off. it's just that sense of jittery human control im getting.
(yeah it may not be undeniable but im sure after this someone will agree.)
Plus ridley diden't leave the stage opposite to the ends of it (not up and down) staying parallel to when character have ben getting hit off the stages in the whole series
 

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Now, as far as Metroid newcomers go, wouldn't Ridley be the very first and best option, like how Dedede and MK were the best (and only) options for new Kirby characters? He's been Samus's nemesis all these years and is generally the most prolific character in the series besides her. And yet, he just decided to include an alternate form of Samus.
Uh... No? MK was revealed before D3 (despite both being in) and back then it was before Sakurai knew of Ridley's popularity. Say what you want, but this whole thing started when Ridley was revealed as the most wanted nintendo newcomer. (Even only after E3 with 06 with nothing else revealed)

also sidenot is sakurai may view zss as more important first
 

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I feel like, with Sakurai not outright showing Ridley off, he's just trying to soften the blow, really. Just trying to get us prepared, because he perhaps figured the western audience would be enraged if completely shown off as a hazard/boss.
Then why he was so cryptic about Ridley, making hints about size in Smash. He knew about the "Ridley is to big controversy" and he knows that we smash fan's will analyze every little brink of information we get. He knows what he's doing. Why letting the Ridley fan base build up hope just to crush it to a later date? Also, we had a similar situation before Brawls release. Why repeat that scenario, but in a much more painful way? I have to say, my expecations are pretty low by now. But it doesn't make sense for me either.
 
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I guess the bad animation could point toward Ridley being a playable character, but I'll still wait for confirmation from the man himself.

You might want to explain what those asterisks mean.
As you were told by another user, that's the site's censoring. But just in case, if you said that because you didn't like me swearing, I'm sorry. You know, Ridley possibly deconfirmed, I supported his inclusion, yadda yadda...

But let me rephrase that if that's what you wanted:
Has anybody come to this thread to be sort of mean to us or mock us for "losing"? Basically, to make fun of his possible deconfirmation? I hope not.
 

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Hello there !

I just wanted to say that I am very confident about Ridley's inclusion in SSB4... and I'm pretty surprised it's not the case for most people here.

I won't say that the statement of Sakurai is really clear. But precisely this may be proof that something is wrong. While I'm sure of one thing, it is that there are no guarantees on Ridley's fate for the time being. But I'm personally confident. The idea to build hype after throwing away our hopes is viable.

Please hope fervently as before until the REAL disclosure. There is no reason to claim that he'll be playable or not right now ! Plus, the direct was really cool beside that, so don't get fixated on this silly shadow which means nothing.

See you.

(And at least I hope my message was understandable...)
 

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One cna argue Ridley can be rescaled to fit as a playable character, sure. But looking at that shadow... He looks at least 10 times as big as Pikachu there.
 
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I don't see how dragging out Ridley's disconfirmation is going to "soften the blow". It's only going to make it more painful for Ridley supporters. We've been teased about Ridley like this long enough, we want answers as soon as possible and if Ridley's not in, we'd rather know now rather than drag the disconfirmation outside the Milky Way galaxy.
 

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I guess the bad animation could point toward Ridley being a playable character, but I'll still wait for confirmation from the man himself.


As you were told by another user, that's the site's censoring. But just in case, if you said that because you didn't like me swearing, I'm sorry. You know, Ridley possibly deconfirmed, I supported his inclusion, yadda yadda...

But let me rephrase that if that's what you wanted:
Has anybody come to this thread to be sort of mean to us or mock us for "losing"? Basically, to make fun of his possible deconfirmation? I hope not.
People only come and mock the ridly supporter because there so bloody sensitive. Every one can get a reaction out of them with "ridly is to big haha not getting in" or " sakurai hates the idea of ridly" Its just much 2 easy.
 

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Sorry, but I've basically given up all hope on Ridley here. It's a shame, but Sakurai just doesn't see him as an appropriate character inclusion it seems. Honestly, I think Ridley was probably doomed as far as back in 2006, when Sakurai said this:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2006/05/31/sakurais-smash-bros-update
Remember when sakurai thought that there would never be a animal crossing rep because the series was too peaceful? well look at villager now!
 

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I don't see how dragging out Ridley's disconfirmation is going to "soften the blow". It's only going to make it more painful for Ridley supporters. We've been teased about Ridley like this long enough, we want answers as soon as possible and if Ridley's not in, we'd rather know now rather than drag the disconfirmation outside the Milky Way galaxy.
well its kinda to late since thats what's obviously happening.
 

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When I saw Ridley's shadow on Pyrosphere, my only reaction was:


Sakurai, WHY U DO DIS TO ME?!

Anyways, I'll be taking a big break from this forum. Nothing against you guys, I'm just a bit heartbroken over seeing Ridley (most likely) and Saki not being playable. And I'd rather avoid Ridley Haters. There'll always be some hope in me that Ridley will one day be playable, but I'll reserve that for future instalments in the Smash Bros series.
 

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When I saw Ridley's shadow on Pyrosphere, my only reaction was:


Sakurai, WHY U DO DIS TO ME?!

Anyways, I'll be taking a big break from this forum. Nothing against you guys, I'm just a bit heartbroken over seeing Ridley (most likely) and Saki not being playable. And I'd rather avoid Ridley Haters. There'll always be some hope in me that Ridley will one day be playable, but I'll reserve that for future instalments in the Smash Bros series.
Roidley, Other M Ridley, The Clone of Ridley, the one that appeared on the stage.
 

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I guess the bad animation could point toward Ridley being a playable character, but I'll still wait for confirmation from the man himself.


As you were told by another user, that's the site's censoring. But just in case, if you said that because you didn't like me swearing, I'm sorry. You know, Ridley possibly deconfirmed, I supported his inclusion, yadda yadda...

But let me rephrase that if that's what you wanted:
Has anybody come to this thread to be sort of mean to us or mock us for "losing"? Basically, to make fun of his possible deconfirmation? I hope not.
You could just look at the previous pages instead of asking other people. You don't have to go far. :bubblebobble:


One cna argue Ridley can be rescaled to fit as a playable character, sure. But looking at that shadow... He looks at least 10 times as big as Pikachu there.
Ridley isn't really that large in the shadow. It's most just his wings, and since he's perpendicular like other players are, his wings probably wouldn't be a hitbox. His height is not even 3 times Pikachu's height when you look at his shadow. I think he's actually slightly shorter than Bowser, which is a tad strange considering his flying position. On a side note, Pikachu is so fat, and Ridley needs to eat more, his shadow is skinny even around the chest area
 

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One cna argue Ridley can be rescaled to fit as a playable character, sure. But looking at that shadow... He looks at least 10 times as big as Pikachu there.
I'm not sure, especially because of his texture.
His tail was very zoomed on, but it was a little blurry, if Ridley was big his texture should be clean.
 

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ill Make this clear. Im not a ridly supporter, as a matter of fact 2 months ago was completely against him. ( Stoped caring because he has a strong fan base)
But when sakurai showed his shadow on pyrophere that was undeniable proof that he was playable. sakurai is trolling if he was not he woulda showed him attacking people on the stage. And now to my more concrete point, if you watch the shadow it looks like an idle animation but it seriously felt like some one tilted the control stick when ridly's shadow moved off. it's just that sense of jittery human control im getting.
(yeah it may not be undeniable but im sure after this someone will agree.)
The wingspan of Ridley's shadow looked far too large for a playable character and he didn't behave anything like any character we've ever seen (being permanently airborne would be incredibly broken).

There's a small chance that Ridley could still be playable in some form, but that shadow is definitely a boss hazard. Sakurai needs some Nintendo bosses to match the Yellow Devil, and Ridley was likely one of his first choices.
 

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Maybe I ought to post a TL;DR version of my previous post...

Sakurai doesn't "Troll".

Sakurai pulls pranks.

Throughout the direct he was pulling pranks. He is known to do stuff like this and has even admitted he's a bit of a prankster.

The way he revealed Ridley this direct was NOT a prank. There's not precedent of him pulling a prank of this nature. This can be considered genuine trolling, but Sakurai may have not intended to do so.

The situation surrounding Palutena and Ridley has one key difference we may have overlooked: She has never been alluded to be in the game while Ridley was alluded to when the Pyrosphere was revealed.

We keep saying he's trolling, but he's really being a prankster. And his pranks are understood quickly and funny. This Ridley situation isn't quick or funny. It's horribly drawn out and cruel.
But Palutena has been alluded to be in the game.

1) The reveal of the Palutena's temple stage with the Palutena statue where, like Ridley, he doesn't mention her by name, instead referring to her as the "Goddess of light".

2) The Pic of the Day of Viridi from Kid Icarus, Zelda, and Rosalini – 3 goddesses – on the night of the infamous Palutena leak. Palutena is obviously the goddess missing from this "girl's night out".

3) Most recently, the pseudo-Palutena trophy fakeout.

The way Sakurai is handling Ridley is no more trollish than the way he's handling Palutena. The only way it would be more trollish is if Ridley is ultimately unplayable.

In Sakurai's mind, the way he's teasing Palutena is the same as the way he's teasing Ridley: he doesn't intend either to be drawn out or cruel, especially because he knows that both will be playable and fans will be happy.

With the Ridley shadow thing, he may have miscalculated a bit as you said, not being quite as obviously ambiguous as he probably intended to be. Some subtlety may have been lost in the translation to English that would have made the whole Ridley segment in the Direct more obviously ambiguous.
 
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Here's 1 preview of my saying

I saw ridley he did indeed grab picture and pikachu looks about a bout 1/8 bigger than his foot (comparing to the other one ridley grabbed pikachu with his foot)

And correct me if I'm wrong but I think ridley only had 3 toes compared to the 4 on other m
 
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The wingspan of Ridley's shadow looked far too large for a playable character and he didn't behave anything like any character we've ever seen (being permanently airborne would be incredibly broken).

There's a small chance that Ridley could still be playable in some form, but that shadow is definitely a boss hazard. Sakurai needs some Nintendo bosses to match the Yellow Devil, and Ridley was likely one of his first choices.
The clip isn't even that long....He flies(or deceptively jumps) in for 1 second at the start, holds Pikachu for 3 seconds, then goes into some sort of glide mode afterward for another second.
Peach has a float for 2.5 seconds in brawl, It's nothing mindblowing to see a new character being in the air for the short time he was shown. There's been plenty more mindblowing moves/mechanics happening with other newcomers. Besides, I think that while Ridley grabs someone in the air, he will be unable to move anywhere, and will probably stay there until the normal time grabs release a player.

The wings probably wouldn't be a hitbox, and I'd assume they fold up in a way that they aren't a problem when he's on the ground.
 

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I can't help but find it ironic that quite a few dedicated Ridley supporters have given up and left, yet the past couple days have seen more then a handful of other users that don't really care for Ridley swing by and mention how the Direct's turn of events actually made them think the space pirate is more likely then before.
 

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Dunno if this was mentioned, as i'm only skimming the thread while at work, but when Ridley's playable, Meta-Ridley can be the stage hazard. I mean, we saw Ridley twice in SSE, why not as a hazard AND playable? ...right guys? ._.
 

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I think Ridley is still possible, but not likely. I'm going to assume he isn't in and be pleasantly surprised if he is. I went through this with Brawl already.....

I would really love another Metroid rep that wasn't Stripper Shoes Samus though.
 
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I think Ridley is still possible, but not likely. I'm going to assume he isn't in and be pleasantly surprised if he is. I went through this with Brawl already.....

I would really love another Metroid rep that wasn't Stripper Shoe's Samus though.
I wouldn't give up too soon. With the way Ridley moves after he goes from the frames of holding pikachu to leaving, it looks too much like a player's movement. Either that, or the footage shown is so beta that it's terrible when it comes to Boss standards for transitioning attacks.

I can't help but find it ironic that quite a few dedicated Ridley supporters have given up and left, yet the past couple days have seen more then a handful of other users that don't really care for Ridley swing by and mention how the Direct's turn of events actually made them think the space pirate is more likely then before.
Yeah. People need a few days to cool down, then they will probably come back. I've just been trying to be more active to dilute the drama, cause it's annoying to hear people whine and/or insult anyone still supporting Ridley.


Dunno if this was mentioned, as i'm only skimming the thread while at work, but when Ridley's playable, Meta-Ridley can be the stage hazard. I mean, we saw Ridley twice in SSE, why not as a hazard AND playable? ...right guys? ._.
One thing is for sure, Other M Ridley will be in the game since this is clearly Other M Ridley's tail, and the shadow shows that he has those big beefy arms that Roidly has. Which makes it unlikely that both Super Metroid and Meta Ridley will appear as well, but it could happen.
 

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Since there's some talk on how choppy Ridley's animation seems to be, remember that we've only really seen his shadow. Shadows seem to be generated this time in a much more dynamic way. That kind of stuff his hard on the PROCESSORS, so the quality of the shadows is scaled back a little. You'll notice during EXTREME CLOSEUPS they're quite pixelated around the edges. I imagine they are another thing that only moves at 30fps instead of the 60fps characters they are cast by. THAT is probably why Ridley's shadow is so choppy looking.
 

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I'm pretty sure anything shown of him would be deemed "choppy."

One cna argue Ridley can be rescaled to fit as a playable character, sure. But looking at that shadow... He looks at least 10 times as big as Pikachu there.
10 times 1' 04" or 0.4 m is about 12' or 4 m. That's actually pretty small by Ridley standards.

Also gonna ask you to cut down on the images.
 

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Probably still big enough to be Down Tilted by everyone in the head when standing on the lower platforms of Battle Field.
 

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Jeez louise, I'm not even an avid Ridley supporter and the lot of you are dropping like flies!

I think he's playable still. He listens. Did you guys see that "DK got a roll?" I wonder who he listened to. Or to make Charizard separate. Or to make Bowser better.

I'm now more obligated to believe he's saving Mewtwo and Ridley for E3 to hype right before the 3DS release.
 

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I just thought of something that I dont think anyone mentioned this but another way sakurai could be trolling us is by not actually announcing ridley as boss, he said that other boss characters may appear on other stages. Then just shows pyrosphere because it is ridleys level in metroid but what is ridley in the metroid games...a boss. Yes sakurai could have been using a play on words to make us think we would be fighting ridley as a boss on the stage other than fighting ridley the boss as a playable character. Like the same way bowser, dedede, ganondorf, and wolf. What if that shadow would have been ganondorfs at skyloft. People would have assumed ganon got demoted to a boss battle so I still have hope
 

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I just thought of something that I dont think anyone mentioned this but another way sakurai could be trolling us is by not actually announcing ridley as boss, he said that other boss characters may appear on other stages. Then just shows pyrosphere because it is ridleys level in metroid but what is ridley in the metroid games...a boss. Yes sakurai could have been using a play on words to make us think we would be fighting ridley as a boss on the stage other than fighting ridley the boss as a playable character. Like the same way bowser, dedede, ganondorf, and wolf. What if that shadow would have been ganondorfs at skyloft. People would have assumed ganon got demoted to a boss battle so I still have hope
Sakurai is not trying to fool anyone. The only time he did that was with ZSS and he revealed her literally 3 seconds after deconfirming her.

We even guessed that ridley might be a stage hazzard for this level as Ridley is the main focus of that area in the game. The whole level is centered around that character. That was even before the direct. Now sakurai mentions bosses in levels and even shows a picture of ridley's shadow on this level. There is no way Ridley is a playable character.
 

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1. Sakurai pulls pranks all the time. He pulled plenty of them during the direct with other characters, some obvious, some more subtle. Showing a shadow of Ridley, without announcing him when saying other bosses without stating it could just him being deceptive again.
2. Ridley has been teased plenty of times in the past. He always states likely other playable characters as assist trophies or whatever they are outright when they aren't a playable character. It'd be a terrible idea to just give the middle finger to fans. Just seems like strange behavior to do something like that.
3. Bosses usually take a second or two before swapping between motions so players have a chance to react. Ridley doesn't really have that long delay between actions when shown in the shadow.
4. Chop off the Wings (since they probably won't be able to be hit because they aren't in the player zone), and compare Pikachu's shadow to Ridley's shadow. Ridley is less than 3 times the height of Pikachu (looks like twice the height of Pikachu, similar to bowser). That's pitifully small for a boss.
 

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The wingspan of Ridley's shadow looked far too large for a playable character and he didn't behave anything like any character we've ever seen (being permanently airborne would be incredibly broken).

There's a small chance that Ridley could still be playable in some form, but that shadow is definitely a boss hazard. Sakurai needs some Nintendo bosses to match the Yellow Devil, and Ridley was likely one of his first choices.
Floating characters dose not seem that strange.
 

Gingerbread Man

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1. Sakurai pulls pranks all the time. He pulled plenty of them during the direct with other characters, some obvious, some more subtle. Showing a shadow of Ridley, without announcing him when saying other bosses without stating it could just him being deceptive again.
2. Ridley has been teased plenty of times in the past. He always states likely other playable characters as assist trophies or whatever they are outright when they aren't a playable character. It'd be a terrible idea to just give the middle finger to fans. Just seems like strange behavior to do something like that.
3. Bosses usually take a second or two before swapping between motions so players have a chance to react. Ridley doesn't really have that long delay between actions when shown in the shadow.
4. Chop off the Wings (since they probably won't be able to be hit because they aren't in the player zone), and compare Pikachu's shadow to Ridley's shadow. Ridley is less than 3 times the height of Pikachu (looks like twice the height of Pikachu, similar to bowser). That's pitifully small for a boss.
1. If we assume whats on screen relates to what hes saying(which we should), Ridley is confirmed as a boss.
2. Hes either been teased for showing up in that level or people are looking too much into every word for a ridley hint. Captions that mention size, are not talking about ridley.
3.He wasn't attacking though. Just flying.
4. You're looking at a shadow. A shadow with some perspective on it as it stretches across the floor. idk about you but he seems like a similar size to the ridley in brawl.
 
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