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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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I just wish he would stop beating around the bush, why not just show us instead of the shadow BS? Im not saying it means hes hiding something but its aggravating to see that we still dont have complete closure at this point. Its sad to see so many people jump ship too, im not gonna give up though. Really, now that our expectations are lowered a bit at least those of us who stayed wont look like we just gave up without a fight.
 
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This is for those who still think he was deconfirmed even though he was not.
ignore the other stuff on the video just listen to the music.
 
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I'm jumping on what some might call denial train, but I think it's still very possible that this is just another troll.

Anyone who has been following Sakurai's reveals over the past three games knows how much he loves to troll and mislead us about everything he can.
This looks to me like it may be more classic Sakurai.

He said that there will be bosses on other stages.... while showing (assumable) Ridley's shadow. There is no explicit link between Ridley's shadow and the boss on the Pyrosphere stage. Only an implicit link.

He knows how demanded Ridley is for this game, so it seems to me like he may have just picked him out to mess with us.
He has obviously purposely made everything about the Pyrosphere boss extremely ambiguous and mysterious. Why would he do that unless he was trolling?

I'd say Ridley still has a very reasonable chance. That shadow we saw may just have been a playable Ridley...


I'm a little surprised everyone is jumping ship on Ridley right now. He's been teasing Ridley and Pyrosphere forever, and yet again he avoided outright showing Ridley himself. If he's just a stage hazard/boss why not just get it out of the way already? Seemed to me it's just more trolling from Sakurai and that there's still more to the story, else he would have straight deconfirmed him like so many other characters today.
This.

I dunno how my title is wrong. Whether or not Ridley appears in the game in some other capacity, he has still been confirmed to appear on the Pyrosphere stage as a "boss".
He has not been confirmed to appear anywhere as anything.
All we've seen is a bunch of mysterious hints and shadows, which Sakurai clearly only revealed to confuse us and cause controversy. Otherwise he would have made a more explicit reveal.
 
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" Sakurai...isn't really as much as a troll as people make him out to be. Hardly a troll, I would say. 95% of Sakurai's "trolling" isn't actually trolling at all, but just him being outside of our predictions. Just because he's unpredictable doesn't mean he intentionally misleads people for the ****s and giggles."
*coughZeroSuitSamuscough*
 
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I may not be the biggest Ridley supporter, but he deserves to be in. Sakurai knows that he is the number one most wanted newcomer in the West. He listened to us with Little Mac, and the fact that he hinted at him and didn't directly kill our hope is suspicious. Assuming no pic of the days change anything, E3 will be his final moment. Also, I'm not giving up on him until Sakurai outright deconfirms or confirms him.
 

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Why people can just accept that he was too big to be playable?

Ok, im sorry about it, i mean Ridley is a character that must be playable in SSB, yet i still find this trolling of Sakurai hilarious, creating hype with Miiverse AT of MotherBrain and Metroid just to reveal today that he is probably just a Boss in stage, also today in streaming he froze the hearth of ZSS players during a few seconds, also deconfirming Dark Samus...

Today Metroid-SSB fans received a kick in the stomach, yet i find it funny, perhaps im a bad person...
 

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I think they melted Ridley down and injected his massive volume into Zero Suit Samus' boobs.
 

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I know does ridley wings saw on the screen just for a momment look see threw like meta ridley wings?

I mean what if the robot version is the hazard and the non robot version is playable

I mean I'm going to stick with 50% deconfirm until I see a Potd with sakurai saying with ridley in the stage hes a hazard and I coulden't make him playable something like that
 
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Why people can just accept that he was too big to be playable?

Ok, im sorry about it, i mean Ridley is a character that must be playable in SSB, yet i still find this trolling of Sakurai hilarious, creating hype with Miiverse AT of MotherBrain and Metroid just to reveal today that he is probably just a Boss in stage, also today in streaming he froze the hearth of ZSS players during a few seconds, also deconfirming Dark Samus...

Today Metroid-SSB fans received a kick in the stomach, yet i find it funny, perhaps im a bad person...
Go back to your bridge troll, kicking people when they're down isn't just bad, it's mean. As for the big argument, as I'm sure that many people have said before, Bowser is in and he's been MUCH larger than Mario in certain games. That's an invalid and very stale argument at this point.
 

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Everything this man says and implies is one-hundred percent true even if he doesn't outright say it.



He just happens to be hiding behind a Substitute to avoid getting flamed.
 

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Everything this man says and implies is one-hundred percent true even if he doesn't outright say it.



He just happens to be hiding behind a Substitute to avoid getting flamed.
You mean like how he told us Zero Suit Samus was not returning until he admitted he was joking about that?
 

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Go back to your bridge troll, kicking people when they're down isn't just bad, it's mean. As for the big argument, as I'm sure that many people have said before, Bowser is in and he's been MUCH larger than Mario in certain games. That's an invalid and very stale argument at this point.
Did you stoped reading my post after too big? Because if you continue is not really that hard to realize that im just making fun of this whole thing, anyway if you want a dragon play Charizard of Bowser.
 

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Did you stoped reading my post after too big? Because if you continue is not really that hard to realize that im just making fun of this whole thing, anyway if you want a dragon play Charizard of Bowser.
Uh, Charizard and Bowser were both in Brawl as playable characters too, but thanks for the info. They were practically guaranteed anyways because Charizard is still one of the most popular Pokemon and Bowser is, well, Bowser. You said that you thought Metroid-SSB fans getting punched in the gut was funny. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's another way to look at that statement.
 

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Did you stoped reading my post after too big? Because if you continue is not really that hard to realize that im just making fun of this whole thing, anyway if you want a dragon play Charizard of Bowser.
Bowser is not a dragon and I am not sure what charizard is considering he is not a Dragon type.
 

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Bowser is not a dragon and I am not sure what charizard is considering he is not a Dragon type.
His final smash in X, at least, changes typing to Fire/Dragon. Not sure if Y is the same, but technically he is if you include that, since I think that's his FS in this one.
 

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Oh your here whats your speculation of the Ridley shadow on the pyrosphere stage
...Given the context, there's no doubt Ridley is a stage element on the Pyrosphere. However, there is no confirmation that this is the extent of Ridley's role in SSB4; in fact, we still haven't even seen Ridley himself, nor heard his name.

As far as the possibility of being a playable character goes, there's enough reasonable doubt. We know Ridley has been cloned. I've seen speculations of the possibility of a playable Ridley and a Meta Ridley hazard, or vice versa. Until we have a clearer word, Ridley's still open. His situation now is still less dire than what we've seen previously with others, such as Toon Link.
 
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God I hope. God I hope.

Well after Greninja he is a possibility, But please don't make him a stage boss
Off-topic, hope your profile pic is confirmed too, along with Galacta Knight.

If Ridley is confirmed and playable, I hope he beats the crap out of the clone Ridley and then glares back at Samus.
 

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...the Ridley we saw isn't playable. It goes against everything we have established. The Ridley in the Direct flies as his method of transportation, but we've talked about how he would work a lot better as a grounded fighter.
Unless I've missed something, that's literally the opposite of what we've talked about. It was agreed that Ridley should definitely be an aerial fighter.
 

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The amount of denial in here upsets me.

Listen, I get that you guys are upset, but there are a few things you guys should know. Sakurai when referring to characters who were bosses, hinted at Ridley with his shadow. It was about Bosses. BOSSES. This isn't some sort of ploy. It is about bosses. It is Other M Ridley, because it is an Other M stage. That is inarguable.

What logic would there be in Sakurai having the Super Metroid Ridley as the playable character when you have Samus, the main character of Metroid as her Other M version? Ridley is her nemesis. Him having a completely different design would be outright strange and would certainly not fit.

DO NOT. I REPEAT, DO NOT continue to set yourselves up for disappointment. Some of you say he wasn't shown because it means something. What about that scene in Metroid Prime? The one where you see his shadow on the ground? Same thing.

He isn't playable. I am a full supporter of Ridley. But I'm facing facts here. Pour you heart and soul into other characters. This probably sounds like I'm being an a-hole, but I'm being honest. This is going to get sad if you guys are going to start grasping so hard at straws.

I understand you guys don't want to have to say that "Ridley isn't playable" after so long. But the time has come. You've fought hard, but it's over.
 

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While it seems 99% likely that Ridley is just a stage hazard, I still find it pretty suspicious that Sakurai went into extreme detail about the Yellow Devil and then just refused to show Ridley's face. I mean, why not just get it out of the way?

I'd also like to point out that the Ridley in Other M is a clone, not the real Ridley. So it could be Other M Ridley as a stage hazard and normal Ridley as playable.

I mean, I'm probably stretching here, it's pretty obvious he'll be a stage hazard. I just find a few things suspicious.
 

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I don't mean to spark controversy but...

I thought of one strange thing.

Ridley flies around the stage as a boss for sure but...

Judging by where he's flying...

Shouldn't he go through the platforms?
 

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The amount of denial in here upsets me.

Listen, I get that you guys are upset, but there are a few things you guys should know. Sakurai when referring to characters who were bosses, hinted at Ridley with his shadow. It was about Bosses. BOSSES. This isn't some sort of ploy. It is about bosses. It is Other M Ridley, because it is an Other M stage. That is inarguable.

What logic would there be in Sakurai having the Super Metroid Ridley as the playable character when you have Samus, the main character of Metroid as her Other M version? Ridley is her nemesis. Him having a completely different design would be outright strange and would certainly not fit.
Remember Smash is non-canon.
 

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His final smash in X, at least, changes typing to Fire/Dragon. Not sure if Y is the same, but technically he is if you include that, since I think that's his FS in this one.
Wouldn't that contradict the fact that there's no more changeable characters in this games? (via moves like Down B and Final Smashes, at least)
 

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I'll fight the losing battle, as I did for Toon Link when everyone told me he was cut. Even if I don't have has many people on my side as I did before.
 

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The amount of denial in here upsets me.

Listen, I get that you guys are upset, but there are a few things you guys should know. Sakurai when referring to characters who were bosses, hinted at Ridley with his shadow. It was about Bosses. BOSSES. This isn't some sort of ploy. It is about bosses. It is Other M Ridley, because it is an Other M stage. That is inarguable.

What logic would there be in Sakurai having the Super Metroid Ridley as the playable character when you have Samus, the main character of Metroid as her Other M version? Ridley is her nemesis. Him having a completely different design would be outright strange and would certainly not fit.

DO NOT. I REPEAT, DO NOT continue to set yourselves up for disappointment. Some of you say he wasn't shown because it means something. What about that scene in Metroid Prime? The one where you see his shadow on the ground? Same thing.

He isn't playable. I am a full supporter of Ridley. But I'm facing facts here. Pour you heart and soul into other characters. This probably sounds like I'm being an a-hole, but I'm being honest. This is going to get sad if you guys are going to start grasping so hard at straws.

I understand you guys don't want to have to say that "Ridley isn't playable" after so long. But the time has come. You've fought hard, but it's over.
I don't mind being disappointed again, that's just life. Deal with it.
 
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