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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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Looks like the boards are having some kinda double post error.
 

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Of course, some would like for that page about Sakamoto to be true just to have a reason to further fuel their hate for him.
 

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Moral of the day:
Don't diss on other characters while defending your favourite character.

(Yes, this is directed at you, John)
Moral of the day:
Want characters that have playstyles, movesets, and skillsets that no other character could potential have (like the 3 newcomers we've gotten thus far)

(yes, this is directed at you, Fal)

If you read my posts, you'd know that I hate this stupid fanboyism, and that I 100% only want the characters that are THE BEST TO PLAY not THE MOST DESERVING, which the latter seems to be cancer that has come from GameFAQs and consumes most of the idiots here on SWF's bodies.
 

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Site's back up? Woot! Anyways, I am more confident about Ridley. I think that if he was a stage hazard, then he would have been revealed by now. A purple monster attacking players is a pretty big thing, and the whole stage would have to be designed around it. We seen quite a few pics of Pyrosphere without Ridley. Maybe it's time to feel more confident.
 

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I agreed with your point up until I read this. Toad is not a half-arsed character, doesn't break trends and is not in the same category as Waluigi, Birdo and Deoxys. Toad has been in Mario since the beginning, is playable in three main series EAD Nintendo games and soon to be a fourth. Toad is an important part of Mario just like Ridley is an important part of Metroid, and if you can't see how he'd be unique then that's your problem, not Toad's.
Toad has nothing original about him. He's got no moves no other character can reasonably used, and he's a generic character in terms of unique moveset, playstyle, and skillset potential until he gets exclusive attacks and a clearly defined style that isn't pretty much exactly the same as Mario, Peach, and Luigi in Mario platformers.

On top of that, he's all but deconfirmed now.

Going back to Ridley, that is all the reasons I want Ridley. Sure he's one of my favorite Nintendo characters, but that has no impact on my reasons for wanting him. Him moveset, skillset, and play style potential are just OFF THE CHARTS AWESOME!!! Unlike 'zard who relies on ground combat, Ridley is nearly all air all the time. He could literally be our first air (super) specialist character, he could have air grabs, and he could just have a lot of mechanics, moves, and ways of playing that could truly change how we play smash, and be unlike any character before him.
 

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His Brawl appearance should have made people expect him less for reasons i have already stated.

I'm sure if some interviewer asks Sakurai about Ridley, we can finally put an end to it.
1. Sakurai said similar things about the Villager. Look how that turned out.
2. "Up until now."
3. Smarten up. Sakurai's approach is always the same. He chooses mostly predictable characters and a few out of left field.
4. He likes to troll. Hint: "Up until now."
5. Sakurai never gives direct answers.
6. Stop assuming you are definitely right. Anything can happen. Anything. Pichu and Snake are the biggest proof of this yet.
7. All the characters thus far confirmed have been from major franchises. Ridley is from a major franchise.
8. All of the character thus far confirmed have been very unique characters in terms of play style, moveset, and skillset. Ridley is a very unique character in terms of play style, moveset, and skillset. I would argue Ridley has more potential in those departments than any potential newcomer with any reasonable chance (maybe sans K. Rool because his move pool of awesome moves is literally too big).
9. Those last 2 things are things Sakurai looks at A LOTTTTT especially the last one.
 

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Saw the round hole in Pyrosphere, then tried to come here just to find the site down. I seriously thought all the Ridley-raging broke Smashboards.
The fact that there are two holes calmed us down.
 

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Well to get on topic

On the day the sight wet down one picture with donkey kong and mario and luigi

And in that picture the real Ridley hole and the one from before are right under each other
And the evil skepticals are jumping to conclusions that Ridley got de confirmed because of the second hole

(They are being stupid again both holes can just be decorations besides Ridley made that hole to escape and nor Samus nor Ridley returned to that room in other m after that battle)

And the second pyrosphere picture is a above view of pyrosphere and Ridley is not down there and thats 80% of the arena and he's not in there and that picture could help show that lava rising is the hazard and not Ridley

And the skepticals move on this trying to deconfirm Ridley as the missing 20% has ridley flying around WRONG he could not be there either

So thats catch up

Ps in 4th pryosphere picture samus ball form looks like the other m one as well
 

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I've seen people say that, but where were two holes actually shown? Do you mean where the lava is flowing out from?
There's two different holes.

Look at the DK pic. There's the hole that Ridley escaped through and the original hole behind DK's hand. Take a look!
 

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So guys, Ridley's confirmation as a playable character should totally be on March 19th, 2014.

Why that date=???

It's the 20th Anniversary of one of the best games of all-time, SUPER METROID!!!

(which is a way better single-player game than anything Nintendo has made this decade)
The fact that there are two holes calmed us down.
Yep. Now you fools have one more imaginary woman to compete for. :p
 

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Am I a bad person if the pic of Toad being part of Peach's moveset give me hope for Ridley ?

I mean Toad is/was a popular character for a new rep, yet Sakurai just flat out show him to us, so why couldn't it be the same for Ridley if he was a stage hazard ?

At this point I'm expecting either a playable Ridley or no Ridley in the game at all (the former of the two still being what I expect the most and hope for).
 

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Pikachu's canon size is 0.4 metres. Mewtwo's canon size is 2 metres. Mewtwo is canonically 5x the size of Pikachu.

Mewtwo is 2 big 4 Smash guise
 

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Apparently "the Ridley thread" means "John."
"Smash Boards" means "John."

Also, Smash Boards wasn't getting DDOS'd that long. It just got quickly DDOS'd and then I had to take down the site for a month because of the ravishing beating I was giving the punk who tried to DDOS us.

Let's just say the beating was "too big," even for Ridley.
 

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To be honest, I thought we would have already have known Ridley's place in Smash Bros. by now.

Its comforting that we have held off for so long, and Sakurai has not crushed our dreams yet.

However, it could still happen on practically any day.
 

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What do my eyes see? Smashboards lives?

Either way, we've had 5 pictures and counting of the Pyrosphere and no signs of Ridley. I feel pretty confident that he's not going to appear there. Logically Sakurai would have shown him in already the 2nd picture, but we've had 5 pictures and no Ridley.
 

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To be honest, I thought we would have already have known Ridley's place in Smash Bros. by now.

Its comforting that we have held off for so long, and Sakurai has not crushed our dreams yet.

However, it could still happen on practically any day.
I'm gonna go and say that I think if Ridley was a hazard then he would have been revealed by now. The entire stage would have to be designed around that hazard. It makes little sense to hide such a big (lol) part of the stage.
 

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Which really either means one of two things, he's either extremely important this time around or so unimportant to not worth mentioning. So either way back to the same place. At this point I image any Newcomer including Ridley would be announced at a event or trailer then announced on a random day on the site anyway so it may still be a bit one way or another.
 

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I kind of want to make a similar video now, just with the posts of every dipshit who claimed Mega Man was never going to happen, particularly from GameFAQs.
Yep (although I wouldn't add the people who doubted Mega Man, but rather, just focus solely on the people who said it would never happen).

Also, make sure you get out your canon cannon.
 

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I do want to say that Ridley is at the same spot he was before Sakurai's little remark, which means he might very likely still be a boss. Remember, Ridley was referred to multiple times on the Brawl Dojo, and yet he was a boss. However, he hasn't been mentioned by name this time around, though that might mean nothing.
 

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Which really either means one of two things, he's either extremely important this time around or so unimportant to not worth mentioning. So either way back to the same place. At this point I image any Newcomer including Ridley would be announced at a event or trailer then announced on a random day on the site anyway so it may still be a bit one way or another.
Considering how unimportant Toad was to where he was off handily deconfirmed (despite the fact Toad is a pretty well known Nintendo character), the scenario where Ridley is in fact not a stage hazard (and by extension not playable) seems less likely and less likely.

Besides, wouldn't Sakurai want to make us like a stage that is an area we hate instead of hate it more=???
 

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I really won't feel safe until there is a confirmed gimmick for the Pyrosphere stage. Of which the only one I can think of (aside from stage hazard Ridley) would be rising lava... AGAIN.
 

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I do want to say that Ridley is at the same spot he was before Sakurai's little remark, which means he might very likely still be a boss. Remember, Ridley was referred to multiple times on the Brawl Dojo, and yet he was a boss. However, he hasn't been mentioned by name this time around, though that might mean nothing.
Sakurai seemed to hint at Ridley pretty hard for a boss, especially a boss whom you fought in two different forms in Brawl. I mean, you don't see Petey Piranha getting that kind of hype for being a boss again.

If Ridley isn't playable, honestly, the only role I see him being in that is worth mentioning is as an Assist Trophy character.
 

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I really won't feel safe until there is a confirmed gimmick for the Pyrosphere stage. Of which the only one I can think of (aside from stage hazard Ridley) would be rising lava... AGAIN.
I presumed that's what the image showing off the lava at the bottom was for. Before that, the lava below the stage appeared all black as though it was cooled. So for it to heat up and rise makes sense.

Anyway, I was going to be really sad if a new character, especially Ridley, was revealed while the site was down. THERE WOULD BE NO EXCITED POSTING TO REMEMBER FONDLY.
 

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I've trained myself not to expect Ridley over the course of the DDoS. Do I still think he's possible? Definitely!

This way, I will not be disappointed if he's in, but I will be even more excited if he makes it.

I did have a scare, though. With one of the daily pictures showing a new hole, I miscalculated and thought it was the same hole, increased in size. I thought that it pretty much ruled out Ridley. I'm determined not to have another scare like that one.
 

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Sakurai seemed to hint at Ridley pretty hard for a boss, especially a boss whom you fought in two different forms in Brawl. I mean, you don't see Petey Piranha getting that kind of hype for being a boss again.

If Ridley isn't playable, honestly, the only role I see him being in that is worth mentioning is as an Assist Trophy character.
That's true, but it could simply be a nod to Ridley considering it's the location at which you fight him at in Other M. Ridley was mentioned similarily in Norfair's Dojo page, though he wasn't mentioned in such a half-mysterious way since Sakurai outright just said "This is where you fight the boss Ridley."

I really won't feel safe until there is a confirmed gimmick for the Pyrosphere stage. Of which the only one I can think of (aside from stage hazard Ridley) would be rising lava... AGAIN.
I honestly don't think there's any gimmicks on the stage. Every image has been of character fighting regularly, one of the images even spoke of their methods of balancing. It'll probably be just like in Other M where the endless lava flow doesn't even make the lava rise for whatever reason. It would also quite fittingly be Samus' dream competitive stage, since she'd very easily be able to control it with all of her projectiles. As I've said before, there's no reason they shouldn't have shown the gimmick if there's anything on the stage by now, while there's good reasons why they should have shown the gimmick if there was one.

I did have a scare, though. With one of the daily pictures showing a new hole, I miscalculated and thought it was the same hole, increased in size. I thought that it pretty much ruled out Ridley. I'm determined not to have another scare like that one.
I was at school and saw the picture on my phone, and I nearly bursted out "OH **** YOU!" in the middle of class. Instead I ended up making some weird gestures and got a few odd looks. Stupid purple space dragon makes me do weird things.
 

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I really won't feel safe until there is a confirmed gimmick for the Pyrosphere stage. Of which the only one I can think of (aside from stage hazard Ridley) would be rising lava... AGAIN.
Sakurai tries to make every Metroid stage unplayable, which is why rising lava is in 3 of the 5 previously playable Metroid stages.
To be honest, I thought we would have already have known Ridley's place in Smash Bros. by now.

Its comforting that we have held off for so long, and Sakurai has not crushed our dreams yet.

However, it could still happen on practically any day.
I still think it is a 2014 thing. If we're getting a newcomer this year, chances are its' a DK newcomer or a somewhat less than expected newcomer.
 

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Going back to Ridley, that is all the reasons I want Ridley. Sure he's one of my favorite Nintendo characters, but that has no impact on my reasons for wanting him. Him moveset, skillset, and play style potential are just OFF THE CHARTS AWESOME!!! Unlike 'zard who relies on ground combat, Ridley is nearly all air all the time. He could literally be our first air (super) specialist character, he could have air grabs, and he could just have a lot of mechanics, moves, and ways of playing that could truly change how we play smash, and be unlike any character before him.
All the Ridley and Charizard comparisons now just make me think back to the hypocrites on gamefaqs that are against a playable Ridley and yet endorse Mega Charizard, who got an upgrade in wingspan and tail length from the regular Charizard... Now the wing and tail lengths are more or less the same as Ridley's, in addition to Mega Charizard's head resembling Ridley's a little more (the non-Other M variant anyway).

And I wouldn't bother with DarkKry4. If you've seen the Krystal thread, you know he just keeps up the same antics with characters he dislikes over and over and puts people that argue with him enough on ignore list, then starts the same crap all over again.

Also, I still think the whole "If he was a stage hazard, we would've seen him by now" line of thought might be a little dangerously optimistic for the time being. That or I think people with that mentality may still yet be setting themselves up for disappointment.
 
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