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Eh, but that would be copying what Team Ninja did with the stage in Dead or Alive Dimensions or whatever, which isn't how Sakurai plays.
In Sakurai's mind, it would probably only be copying what Team Ninja did with Ridley if he executed him as a hazard in the exact same way, which we know won't happen if Ridley's a hazard since DoA also had Samus power bombing him at the end, and we know she's a playable character in Smash. And as a stage hazard, Sakurai could easily have Ridley do something else besides the whole "drag victim across the wall" thing like in DoA/Other M gameplay or that Brawl cutscene, so in a sense it wouldn't be copying. At least to Sakurai.
http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/email-sakurai-has-added-an-other-m-stage-to-brawl/?
And yet he ignores the fact that Super Mario Strikers trophies were in Brawl.
Personally I think all of it comes from him being a butthurt 80s fanboy.
Um
Diddy Kong wasn't made by a Japanese company and he's a whole playable character.
Sakurai isn't trolling you. Sakurai does the unexpected but doesn't outright mislead people, he's not that kind of person. He also doesn't tease newcomers before their reveal date. I think clinging to the idea that Ridley might not be a stage hazard is pretty wishful thinking and it would be better to consider what's really the most likely situation here.
). People who twist it to mean "Ridley is confirmed to be a stage hazard" are idiots.
How would Ridley work differently and keep it original=??? Grabbing people is like the only thing he would do that is unique as a stage hazard. I mean, he could shoot fireballs, but the stage Norfair already does that, and honestly, Pyrosphere probably does as well!
There's nothing to twist. The twisting is that people are trying to bring it back to a 'neutral' position, suggesting that it could mean Ridley is a stage hazard or it could mean he's playable. The implication was pretty clear, and the gigantic Ridleyhole in the background doesn't help matters. I just don't think there's any point fooling ourselves into believing Ridley still has a shot. It's better not to set yourself up for disappointment.Pretty much it's safe to say Ridley is not yet down for the count like Toad is.
With Toad, we got a direct image that confirms he's retaining the role of meat shield.
With Ridley, all we have is a vague quote that may not even be referencing anything about Smash but Other M itself (Unless we're to believe Epona's going to be helping people on the Guerdo Valley stage
There is a ton of truth to it. Nintendo doesn't advertise any of their non-Japanese made games in Japan at all, and they don't advertise their Retro Studio made games very hard.
And it's best not to read too much into quotes that can be interpreted in multiple ways. Really, it's like the "Up until now" incident with Ness, some people think one way and some another, but until the dust settles and we see point blank what he means we can't be certain.
As a hazard, aside from the fireballs he could have Ridley randomly attack players by using his wings as a gust thing like in Brawl (blow them off the platforms), randomly swoop out of nowhere and do that pogostick kind of attack with his tail a la Super Metroid, or lazily copy & paste one of his other Brawl boss moves like the attack out of the background thing. Hell if I know.How would Ridley work differently and keep it original=??? Grabbing people is like the only thing he would do that is unique as a stage hazard. I mean, he could shoot fireballs, but the stage Norfair already does that, and honestly, Pyrosphere probably does as well!
And yes, it would be copying, because, again, there is nothing unique to do with Ridley as a stage hazard. As a boss, assist trophy character, and especially as a playable character though, he could do several things no other memorable or major Nintendo character does.
...There was no implication.
How are the two even comparable=???
A lot of the comparisons are for that, as well as because both are longstanding characters in major franchises. Granted, Ridley has a much larger role (most recurring villain and the main characters' arch-nemesis > like the 5th most important hero character).
This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. You're bringing up a situation from Other M that has nothing to do with Ridley's appearance in the stage and inventing some tenuous connection to PuzzleSwap of all things in order to make it appear as if this could go either way. Pyrosphere is inspired by its appearance in Other M like virtually every other stage in SSB. It doesn't have to take place at a canonical time period during that game, it's about the elements being present. The logic used to suggest Ridley is a part of the stage is very simple. This is where Ridley made his appearance in Other M, and Sakurai's comment indicates that he could appear at any moment. Furthermore, there is no precedent for a character being teased like that before their official reveal.
Very well said.
Meta Knight appeared on the Halberd for the first time in Kirby Superstar, and he was playable in Brawl. and even made his first appearance on the Halberd in a trailer.
Except it's a major leap to assume that suddenly it means he'll appear in the stage. Sakurai mentioned Viridi by name and yet we've gotten no indication that she's a direct part of the stage. The comment could just as easily be referring to his appearance in the game, that's really all we can take from it until we have absolute proof one way or the other.
He hasn't directly appeared at all compared to those two, all he has against them is a vague quote that can be interpreted in different ways, that's hardly the same situation.
The wind blowing has already been done before, and it could very likely be done for a Super Mario Galaxy stage (Gusty Gardens Galaxy). Still, at least it stands out, even if it doesn't seem all the useful of a way to use Ridley.As a hazard, aside from the fireballs he could have Ridley randomly attack players by using his wings as a gust thing like in Brawl (blow them off the platforms), randomly swoop out of nowhere and do that pogostick kind of attack with his tail a la Super Metroid, or lazily copy & paste one of his other Brawl boss moves like the attack out of the background thing. Hell if I know.
And I didn't say that Sakurai executing Ridley differently as a hazard from DoA Dimensions would automatically make him an original hazard... He probably wouldn't care if it did or not.
Most of what I'm saying here anyway is just hindsight. In actuality I pretty much agree with you on the whole matter, so you needn't make a post defending Ridley against me, a fellow supporter of all people.
I agree with this reasoning.