Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Ridley_Prime]

Nah, this one fits better. It just needs to be extended to have Ridley slam Samus against wall. It is more violent.

No, we need Boba Fett alt for Samus and General Grievous alt (not just GG and insted Ridley designed to look like GG) for Ridley. Both are a lot more bada$$ than 9001 Storm Troopers...wait...EVERYONE is more bada$$ than 900001 Storm Troopers because they can`t aim properly.

Why, because it's a Phazon wall that would do extra damage? Works for me.

I've always likened Grievous to Ridley somehow when comparing Star Wars and Metroid characters (guess because they're both generals and have clever ways for lack of better word of overcoming death most of the time), so that I could definitely live with too.

He has something Ridley will never have tho ;
Amazing quotes.

Ridley does too have quotes.

Kill as much as you want. Have fun!
I'll grant you some respect if you get your hands dirty.
*insert other condescending lines here*

You thought Roidley had a load of unnecessary spikes, well wait till you see....

COMMERCIALEY

"Commercialey" IS Roidley... Looking back though, I do like his wing design better there than what he had in-game.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

"Commercialey" IS Roidley... Looking back though, I do like his wing design better there than what he had in-game.

No there's difference's "Commercialey" has spikes all up his legs and arms as opposed the two on the sides of his knees and waist and elbows and Orange inner Wings as well as no tail.

 

[Phaazoid]

I've never noticed how big the spikes on commercialey were @.@

and I think what @ Ridley_Prime meant is that technically they are portrayals of the same Ridley, even if they may differ in crazyness of cgi.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Pretty much, yeah, which was why I wasn't surprised by the extra spikes. That and the head/beak are still the same, but from where he was standing in the commercial I guess they didn't feel the need to model a tail. In the end though it's still Roidley despite the couple differences.

 

[RidleyKraid187]

"Commercialey" IS Roidley... Looking back though, I do like his wing design better there than what he had in-game.

I think our ways of describing the slightly different variations of Ridley is getting a little out of hand.....Commercialey? REALLY?!

Although, this is coming from the guy who hates the usage of Roidley to describe Ridley's clone......so, yeah.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

I hated the term Roidley initially too, but with how often it got used after awhile I guess it became one of those "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" kind of things for me to use... which is probably bad.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

I made the comparison a while ago to justify Ridley's inclusion as a boss in Brawl, but now I've actually done my Mega Man/Metroid crossover:

Yellow Kraid!

Bassley!

Mother Wily!

 

[Phaazoid]

I hated the term Roidley initially too, but with how often it got used after awhile I guess it became one of those "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" kind of things for me to use... which is probably bad.

I mean it sounds eh, but it's the easiest way to refer to the other model, so it catches on.

 

[AndreaAC]

I made the comparison a while ago to justify Ridley's inclusion as a boss in Brawl, but now I've actually done my Mega Man/Metroid crossover:

Yellow Kraid!

Bassley!

Mother Wily!

OuO I love Rids and Bass! you made the perfect combination!

 

[MunchyMunch]

Uhh guys....

Ridley leak?

http://imgur.com/yjaGkpe

I'm not Japanese, but I'm pretty sure it says "RIDLEY BARELY FITS IN!"

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Fake. Someone with access to a Brawl model had some fun.

 

[MunchyMunch]

Some people on GFAQS are saying that the Japanese reads "I'm too big for you".

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Some people on GFAQS are saying that the Japanese reads "I'm too big for you".

Well that's wrong. The character-specific blurbs are an American-exclusive thing.

I know jack about Moonspeak, but if that was a legit leak, it would say "Ridley joins the Battle!"

 

[Knight Dude]

I made the comparison a while ago to justify Ridley's inclusion as a boss in Brawl, but now I've actually done my Mega Man/Metroid crossover:

Yellow Kraid!

Bassley!

Mother Wily!

Bassley is pretty OP. 21/10 would main two times over.

 

[SchAlternate]

Uhh guys....

Ridley leak?

http://imgur.com/yjaGkpe

I'm not Japanese, but I'm pretty sure it says "RIDLEY BARELY FITS IN!"

It has the "参戦" present in every japanese reveal trailer, roughly translated as "Joins the battle". Only the international version includes all the wity puns.

That said, the blurb should cover a great chunk of the screen, and have no additional text, unlike in the image. Plus, that's just Brawl Ridley tinted purple.

 

[AustarusIV]

I've always likened Grievous to Ridley somehow when comparing Star Wars and Metroid characters (guess because they're both generals and have clever ways for lack of better word of overcoming death most of the time), so that I could definitely live with too.

I'm so glad I'm not the only person who's made a connection between General Grievous and Ridley. I mean, if you compare the two:

1. They're both reptilian cyborgs.
2. They're both highly influential generals on the antagonists' side.
3. They're considered to be a force to be reckoned with. (Grievous has killed dozens of Jedi, Adam considers Ridley to be as dangerous as a space station filled with Metroids.)
4. Both Ridley and Grievous are break-out villains within their respective franchise, but the former was later made into the main antagonist of his series.
5. They display a deep hatred for the protagonists, blaming them for a certain wrong that happened to them. (Ridley hates Samus for defeating him constantly and destroying his army, and Grievous blames the Jedi for the suffering of his people)
6. Ridley and Grievous are both egotistical social Darwinists who despise humans, and show no remorse to their enemies.
7. They both meet an ignominious end at some point. The original Ridley explodes after being defeated for the last time, and the clone was sucked out dry by the Queen Metroid. General Grievous dies at the hands of his own blaster, by a man who detests such weaponry.

I really, really want to see Metroid do a crossover with another influential sci-fi series, even though it will most likely never happen.

 

[CrypticSpark]

You thought Roidley had a load of unnecessary spikes, well wait till you see....

COMMERCIALEY

Those spikes remind me of Kraid's, maybe they accidentally picked up some of Kraid's DNA from Samus's suit and it got mixed with Ridley's?

 

[SchAlternate]

Those spikes remind me of Kraid's, maybe they accidentally picked up some of Kraid's DNA from Samus's suit and it got mixed with Ridley's?

Kraidley confirmed to be way too big.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Those spikes remind me of Kraid's, maybe they accidentally picked up some of Kraid's DNA from Samus's suit and it got mixed with Ridley's?

This is my new headcanon.

 

[AustarusIV]

So is the commercial for Other M the only source to knowing why Samus freaks out at the sight of Ridley? Well, apart from scanlations of the manga on the internet.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Did this for funsies.

Assuming 3-year old Samus only came up to her adult counterpart's knee...

 

[Snagrio]

Kraidley confirmed to be way too big.

Yes, we've got our gen 3 rep!

 

[Mega Bidoof]

So I was driving to Hoover Damn as part of a vacation I'm on, and I something that might interest you guys...

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RIDLEY CONFIRMED!!!!
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[majora_787]

So is the commercial for Other M the only source to knowing why Samus freaks out at the sight of Ridley? Well, apart from scanlations of the manga on the internet.

It was really self-explanatory to begin with. o_O

And whatever that "leak" is, every link of it I have seen has been a broken leak. But apparently it's not very well done?

 

[PerfectChaos9]

So I was driving to Hoover Damn as part of a vacation I'm on, and I something that might interest you guys...

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RIDLEY CONFIRMED!!!!
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The signs are all coming together now! It's happening!

 

[Zynux]

That suit doesn't look right on the Other M suit. EWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

But yeah, Dark Meta Ridley would look awesome, provided it's not on Roidley's model.

When I saw the PoTD update, I was sure I stepped into the Twilight Zone. The alternate dimension where the Other M suit, my least favorite Varia Suit design in Smash 4 looks amazing, while the Light Suit, debatably the most badass suit design, looks horrible here.

Should have just went all out and made an Alt form. Though I'm still glad the Light Suit got some recognition here.

So is the commercial for Other M the only source to knowing why Samus freaks out at the sight of Ridley? Well, apart from scanlations of the manga on the internet.

Correct. Doesn't help the fact that the Manga was never officially released in the west, which so happens to be the region where Metroid is most popular in. So the primary source of information for the context isn't even widely available to the masses.

For casual fans just getting into Metroid via Other M, the commercial, which was easy to miss, the Manga, which make no mistake is very obscure, and other tidbits of information from other sources (like the Brawl trophy) was all they had for context. I don't think I need to explain why that is such horrible writing. Though to be fair, proper context wouldn't of helped that scene much anyway.

I think our ways of describing the slightly different variations of Ridley is getting a little out of hand.....Commercialey? REALLY?!

Although, this is coming from the guy who hates the usage of Roidley to describe Ridley's clone......so, yeah.

Make no mistake: Roidley is a bad term, but it is far easier to type and distinguish from Ridley then "Other M Ridley."

So, laziness prevails once again.

Uhh guys....

Ridley leak?

http://imgur.com/yjaGkpe

I'm not Japanese, but I'm pretty sure it says "RIDLEY BARELY FITS IN!"

Just looks like Brawl Ridley plastered with way too much Japanese. I wouldn't look too far into it. Most certain it's trolling.

Those spikes remind me of Kraid's, maybe they accidentally picked up some of Kraid's DNA from Samus's suit and it got mixed with Ridley's?

Cute. Even in the afterlife and clonified, Ridley and Kraid will always be pirate drinking buds, together forever. Embarrass

 

[majora_787]

I still find it bizarre that people still pretend that the entire basis doesn't make any sense in 2014, but that's not really a discussion for the Ridley thread.

This is obviously the game where the impossible is possible. Except for Ridley. He's The Exception.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

I'm so glad I'm not the only person who's made a connection between General Grievous and Ridley. I mean, if you compare the two:

1. They're both reptilian cyborgs.
2. They're both highly influential generals on the antagonists' side.
3. They're considered to be a force to be reckoned with. (Grievous has killed dozens of Jedi, Adam considers Ridley to be as dangerous as a space station filled with Metroids.)
4. Both Ridley and Grievous are break-out villains within their respective franchise, but the former was later made into the main antagonist of his series.
5. They display a deep hatred for the protagonists, blaming them for a certain wrong that happened to them. (Ridley hates Samus for defeating him constantly and destroying his army, and Grievous blames the Jedi for the suffering of his people)
6. Ridley and Grievous are both egotistical social Darwinists who despise humans, and show no remorse to their enemies.
7. They both meet an ignominious end at some point. The original Ridley explodes after being defeated for the last time, and the clone was sucked out dry by the Queen Metroid. General Grievous dies at the hands of his own blaster, by a man who detests such weaponry.

I really, really want to see Metroid do a crossover with another influential sci-fi series, even though it will most likely never happen.

Aye. They're also similar in that they're villains that are mostly just powerful or OP in the physical sense and not so much the special ability sense, opposite of their enemies (i.e. Grievous doesn't have any of them force powers that the Jedi/Sith have, while Ridley doesn't have any of that Chozo, Metroid, or psychic ability hax that Samus/Mother Brain/whatever have), but still compensate as a formidable threat with their other/unique skills. And they're both quite the escape artists.

So is the commercial for Other M the only source to knowing why Samus freaks out at the sight of Ridley? Well, apart from scanlations of the manga on the internet.

Pretty much.

Correct. Doesn't help the fact that the Manga was never officially released in the west, which so happens to be the region where Metroid is most popular in. So the primary source of information for the context isn't even widely available to the masses.

For casual fans just getting into Metroid via Other M, the commercial, which was easy to miss, the Manga, which make no mistake is very obscure, and other tidbits of information from other sources (like the Brawl trophy) was all they had for context. I don't think I need to explain why that is such horrible writing is. Though to be fair, proper context wouldn't of helped that scene much anyway.

Yeah... I'm gonna go out on a limb though and guess as I always have that the reason the manga never made its way to western shores was because of its overly grimdark (by Metroid standards) content and occasional profanity, which Nintendo being the sissies they can be would never publicly endorse for sale.

Doesn't make the manga any less canon though, at least as far as its origin/background of the Samus and Ridley rivalry goes.

 

[WayfaringElf]

For Ridley!

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Yeah... I'm gonna go out on a limb though and guess as I always have that the reason the manga never made its way to western shores was because of its overly grimdark (by Metroid standards) content and occasional profanity, which Nintendo being the sissies they can be would never publicly endorse for sale.

Doesn't make the manga any less canon though, at least as far as its origin/background of the Samus and Ridley rivalry goes.

I personally consider the manga canon, but even Other M seems to disregard parts of it in order to fit it into its own convoluted story.

Like the infamous PTSD thing even though she had that before and conquered it. Or forgetting her other father figures in order to glorify and worship Adam.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

For Ridley!

Does "for freedom" also mean/include freedom from toobigotry? If not then the for freedom slogan is a lie!

I personally consider the manga canon, but even Other M seems to disregard parts of it in order to fit it into its own convoluted story.

Like the infamous PTSD thing even though she had that before and conquered it. Or forgetting her other father figures in order to glorify and worship Adam.

Yep, the Chozo really got shafted in that sense. :\ PTSD is realistically capable of resurfacing in someone though even if it's been or thought to have been conquered before. That's something most refuse to understand or acknowledge. Not saying it makes that cutscene "right" though, but.. It's a whole different can of worms that I don't really want to get into.

 

[WayfaringElf]

I wonder what tomorrow's pic of the day may hold, today's was fabulous.

 

[Snagrio]

For Ridley!

 

[AustarusIV]

Did this for funsies.

Assuming 3-year old Samus only came up to her adult counterpart's knee...

Seems pretty off. I mean if you compare Samus right there to the live-action Zero Suit Samus, ZSS might only come up to her thighs.

But there's no questioning that Ridley is at a good size to be playable.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Seems pretty off. I mean if you compare Samus right there to the live-action Zero Suit Samus, ZSS might only come up to her thighs.

But there's no questioning that Ridley is at a good size to be playable.

What I have taken away from this brief exercise is that I do not know how big human children are in relation to adults.

I was almost going to try measuring Samus's size as compared to her child self by using Ridley as a relative unit of measure, but then I realized that if a video game couldn't keep track of his size, there was no way in hell manga could keep even one Ridley consistent in size. A Chozo could MAYBE be more consistent, but I don't see the point in comparing a manga size with a live-action size.

 

[Zynux]

Yeah... I'm gonna go out on a limb though and guess as I always have that the reason the manga never made its way to western shores was because of its overly grimdark (by Metroid standards) content and occasional profanity, which Nintendo being the sissies they can be would never publicly endorse for sale.

Doesn't make the manga any less canon though, at least as far as its origin/background of the Samus and Ridley rivalry goes.

I would assume that they never released it over here because, simply put, it probably wouldn't of sold. The Manga was released way back in 2002, way back during the time when anime/manga was a bit more niche. I will admit this is only speculation, but this was something that I always thought was a reasonable explanation. However, I have no objective basis for it.

I personally consider the manga canon, but even Other M seems to disregard parts of it in order to fit it into its own convoluted story.

This is no surprise, as the Metroid narrative can't seem to stay coherent and always continually contradicting itself. Let's not forget Prime's NTSC hilarity with their Prime logs regarding Metroid Prime; with the pirates not being able to enter the Impact Crater without the Chozo Artifacts yet somehow knew and experimented on it.

To me, it is quite obvious that which each passing game, they just make stuff up as they go along. I'm convinced that Sakamoto makes stuff up during interviews, my intuition tells me so

Does "for freedom" also mean/include freedom from toobigotry? If not then the for freedom slogan is a lie!

How is that freedom? If it was truly free, then both supporters and detractors will be fighting side by side, shouting their opinions from the rooftops, censored by no one!

Unless toobigotry is considered as hate speech, but even then they still have the freedom to express it!

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Anyways, random question for any who care: Ridley would most likely have a Plasma-breathing special. Should the Plasma he shoots be his more iconic one, which are scattered individual fire balls? Or should they go the Prime route and have be more like a Beam? Or incorporate both?

 

[AustarusIV]

What I have taken away from this brief exercise is that I do not know how big human children are in relation to adults.

I was almost going to try measuring Samus's size as compared to her child self by using Ridley as a relative unit of measure, but then I realized that if a video game couldn't keep track of his size, there was no way in hell manga could keep even one Ridley consistent in size. A Chozo could MAYBE be more consistent, but I don't see the point in comparing a manga size with a live-action size.

Ah, I see. But I have to say, Ridley's size in that commercial (and the in-game model for Other M) is a really ideal size to use for Ridley in every future Metroid game to come, and I'm not just saying this because of my interest in a playable character-sized Ridley. It works a lot better for him as a character if he's more on grounds with humanity, as he seems to represent its worst qualities.

Speaking of live-action commercials, I would like to direct you to this:

Even in 1994, Ridley was foreshadowed with his silhouette.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Anyways, random question for any who care: Ridley would most likely have a Plasma-breathing special. Should the Plasma he shoots be his more iconic one, which are scattered individual fire balls? Or should they go the Prime route and have be more like a Beam? Or incorporate both?

Beam would better work as a final smash. Fireballs are more iconic...right?

You thought Roidley had a load of unnecessary spikes, well wait till you see....

COMMERCIALEY

He lacks his tail again? Anyway, is it just me or his colors are closer to Meta/Brawl Ridley than Roidley in this commercial?

 

[SchAlternate]

So I was watching the groomps.

At around 10 minutes in, they talk about who'd be Mother Brain's right hand in the game. And then Arin says this:

"If you ask somebody what's THE Metroid villain, people would be like, it's ****ing Ridley"

I dunno why, that brought a subtle smile on my face; probably due to how many people deny he's the main villain and say he's just a simple mook to try to save their hopeless arguments.

...They also say that he was originally gonna be in their Starbomb song "Regretroid" instead of Kraid. That'd explain the "I'm the greatest dragon you have ever seen" line, though it makes me wonder if the "I take up five screens" line was in the original script...

 

[Malkior7]

Ridleonidus (image done by myself)