The Phantom Mafia - So This Is How Liberty Dies

[LoneKonWolf]

LoneKonWolf
Why do you think we are lying? We literally checked him and he came up town.

Shiny read what i'm saying.

I labeled it out for completing sakes of opposition but completely dismissed and destroyed the idea with refuting in the same post.

In short, no i have no reason to believe you are lying, and gave reasoning to suspend any form of reasoning of why you would lie, so i take what you are saying as the truth no matter how bitter it is.

Please read the whole post and not only parts of it.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I have a blaster with three shots.

These shots prevent the target from performing a night action, but leaves them vulnerable to any duel attempt for that night.

I can't really think of any Jedi nor Sith that carried a blaster during the Prequels. The only one who comes sort of close is Kenobi in Episode 3, but that was more of a last ditch effort against Grievous and wasn't even his own blaster.
Are you an Indy or am I missing something?

 

[BarDulL]

I have.

And you have not refuted anything besides the host kill explanation. Everything else has been ignored, diverted to opposite conversation, or you simply metaphorically shrugged at to have no explanation.

The only other possibility i can come up with to explain the factor is that shiny lied about the result, which is insane conclusion to even come up with. As shiny proved to have full town intent trying to defend Katt so late in her lynch and has only showed to be helpful. He can't be a scum lying meaning he has to be telling the truth as there is no reason for a town member to lie over this.

I do not know why you brought this back up, when i have fully admitted to backing down in that same post. Just because i now have proof you are town does not mean i relinquish my thought process.

I don’t get that impression from this post, Kon.

 

[Deleted member]

I can't really think of any Jedi nor Sith that carried a blaster during the Prequels. The only one who comes sort of close is Kenobi in Episode 3, but that was more of a last ditch effort against Grievous and wasn't even his own blaster.
Are you an Indy or am I missing something?

I'm Plo Koon.

And yet my lightsaber is yellow despite him having a blue one.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

I don’t get that impression from this post, Kon.

The only other possibility i can come up with to explain the factor is that shiny lied about the result, which is insane conclusion to even come up with. As shiny proved to have full town intent trying to defend Katt so late in her lynch and has only showed to be helpful. He can't be a scum lying meaning he has to be telling the truth as there is no reason for a town member to lie over this.

That paragraph exactly. I offer up the only possiblity i can think of as to explain the factor of nabes result not matching with the patterns shown would be that shiny lied on the result.

And in that same paragraph i label out that it was insane and used the reasoning of shinys actions of katherines check and the cooperation of the whole nabe vote as proof shiny has a town intent mindset, and as with a town intent mindset he has no reason to lie about the result. Making the implausibility of lying falsifying the only other possibility i can think of. And with that accepted defeat that my intuition is off.

What impression do you get if we are reading the same thing.

 

[Z25]

I’m on mobile and I can’t expect Shiny to deal with the situation the way I want him to. Hopefully you guys forgive me for forgoing my self-imposed restriction.

#HBC | Nabe , what do you think of Kon’s behavior? Let’s say hypothetically that myself and Shiny did in fact lie; what do you think it means?

Actually I hope we can talk more about that rule post game.

I understand why it’s in place but it’s also something I feel restricts play but that’s just a whole set of thoughts to be saved for later

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I'm Plo Koon.

And yet my lightsaber is yellow despite him having a blue one.

I'm worried about the importance of saber colors honestly. Could just be a fun flavor thing (which I thought at first), but you having a saber color that is different than your character's usual saber is a little interesting to say the least.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

I'm worried about the importance of saber colors honestly. Could just be a fun flavor thing (which I thought at first), but you having a saber color that is different than your character's usual saber is a little interesting to say the least.

I wouldn't worry at all. I'm rather confident golden is who he says he is.

 

[praline]

I'm Plo Koon.

And yet my lightsaber is yellow despite him having a blue one.

What’s with the weird ass names in Star Wars

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I wouldn't worry at all. I'm rather confident golden is who he says he is.

I am too, but I'm more curious if the Saber color thing is a red herring for town, or if something's up and they matter for someone else's role.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

I am too, but I'm more curious if the Saber color thing is a red herring for town, or if something's up and they matter for someone else's role.

If they exist someone probably has it. Information in our role pms exist for a reason.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

What’s with the weird *** names in Star Wars

Its space fantasy, writers make cool **** up for names to get you immersed that's a unique world and stuff.
Also here's what Plo Koon looks like, pretty cool.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Image broke not going to bother to fix it though.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Its space fantasy, writers make cool **** up for names to get you immersed that's a unique world and stuff.
Also here's what Plo Koon looks like, pretty cool.

If you quote it, it works.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Let uni confirm i don't tolerate jokes.

Is there anything you tolerate aside from pain? :V

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Is there anything you tolerate aside from pain? :V

I tolerate you.

 

[AlphaSSB]

I'm Plo Koon.

And yet my lightsaber is yellow despite him having a blue one.

So, I checked the Star Wars wiki, and according to the "Legends" section, Plo Koon apparently used a yellow lightsaber in some media. Notably some game called Jedi Power Battles. Though I haven't been able to find anything pointing to him using a blaster, which is odd.

I'm not thinking too much of it, myself. If anything, the saber colors are pointed out because someone has the ability to 'check' a player's saber color. Which could be interesting, though potentially useless.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I tolerate you.

Awwww~

 

[Deleted member]

So, I checked the Star Wars wiki, and according to the "Legends" section, Plo Koon apparently used a yellow lightsaber in some media. Notably some game called Jedi Power Battles. Though I haven't been able to find anything pointing to him using a blaster, which is odd.

I'm not thinking too much of it, myself. If anything, the saber colors are pointed out because someone has the ability to 'check' a player's saber color. Which could be interesting, though potentially useless.

Well, I mean, if they're Red, it's obviously Scum.
Anything else (considering this is Episode I themed, thus no Greivous) would be a friendly :V

 

[LoneKonWolf]

So, I checked the Star Wars wiki, and according to the "Legends" section, Plo Koon apparently used a yellow lightsaber in some media. Notably some game called Jedi Power Battles. Though I haven't been able to find anything pointing to him using a blaster, which is odd.

I'm not thinking too much of it, myself. If anything, the saber colors are pointed out because someone has the ability to 'check' a player's saber color. Which could be interesting, though potentially useless.

Actually no. . . Most of the sith if i recall from my limited knowledge would use purple and red lightsabers. Meaning it can be a form of checking there.

Though that goes back to the form of cop theory which was brought up earlier. . . Hm.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Awwww~

I was actually expecting a joking response there from that dry humor.

Huh.

But anyway yes, I do care for you.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

We can continue this conversation in post game, right now I feel it’s distracting from the game

Nabe, Golden said he RBd you. Can you confirm that?

I was informed of being "incapacitated". Actually, my action last Night was unblockable, but I didn't get points from Joja's death.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

I was informed of being "incapacitated". Actually, my action last Night was unblockable, but I didn't get points from Joja's death.

So then golden role is confirmed.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I’m on mobile and I can’t expect Shiny to deal with the situation the way I want him to. Hopefully you guys forgive me for forgoing my self-imposed restriction.

#HBC | Nabe , what do you think of Kon’s behavior? Let’s say hypothetically that myself and Shiny did in fact lie; what do you think it means?

If you didn't use the action on me and you wanted to shut Kon down anyway? More power to you. I don't know what motive you have to town-claim me as scum, and also I think a scumteam that doesn't contain you will kill you before me, meaning it would be suspicious if I died (as the town clear) before you did. I guess that's WIFOM, but I still don't see motive there aside from the creation of a WIFOM situation in and of itself.

 

[Z25]

Light saber colors could have some meaning. Sort of like how last game everyone was a baby Pokémon.

Of course those are different but both effected things to a small degree

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Hey, so, anyone got a vote count? If not I'll make one

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Actually no. . . Most of the sith if i recall from my limited knowledge would use purple and red lightsabers.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

I said i had limited knowledge.

Your meme is lost on me.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

In your opinion. In my opinion you have done no such thing.

And again i ask. I have backed down, I have admitted at proof for you being town. Why do you continue this?

Because you're either scum or incoherently wrong, dude.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I have a blaster with three shots.

These shots prevent the target from performing a night action, but leaves them vulnerable to any duel attempt for that night.

Would it have also stopped me from getting points from Joja?

Did anyone else get zero points from Joja?

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Because you're either scum or incoherently wrong, dude.

I'll keep to my thoughts and accept your town confirmation. Bardul and shiny have proved that enough.

I am no scum. I have been mulling over it for awhile whether or not to speak my role out here, but i'll speak it on out.

I am a tracker, for free i can track normally a player to see who they visited at night. I can power up my role using force points to instead track abilities.

For example, if in the main thread a player were to come out as doctor and they say they can protect someone, i can track to see if they used such that night.

After talking to golden i tracked his ability which he claimed was blaster and see if he indeed used it or not.

And i got back a confirmation that golden indeed used an ability that was blaster.

And him coming out to say that you were incapacitated which fits up with golden story proves that such a ability is confirmed and exists.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Character?

 

[praline]

Well since there’s only 5 hours left until I’m lynched who wants to be the lucky person that comes with me?

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Character?

Pong Krell.

 

[BarDulL]

If you didn't use the action on me and you wanted to shut Kon down anyway? More power to you. I don't know what motive you have to town-claim me as scum, and also I think a scumteam that doesn't contain you will kill you before me, meaning it would be suspicious if I died (as the town clear) before you did. I guess that's WIFOM, but I still don't see motive there aside from the creation of a WIFOM situation in and of itself.

We did lie. I want you to remember this for later. Regardless, we are unquestionably lynching praline.

When we used our ability on you at 7 votes to check for a double voter, Vaan surprised us and said “yeah your action failed and you can’t use your action again for this phase.” In essence, we weren’t told prior that we couldn’t use it more than once per phase. This is all alleged, so believe what you want.

We claimed that you were with the Jedi because your entire gameplay leading up to the very moment that we got our result indicated you were someone that was all too willing to get their alignment check. As a non-godfather, I am compelled to believe that you realized there was an incredibly likely chance we were telling the truth. You saw with your own eyes that we hard-defended Natz. You knew that the chances of us lying were so completely minimal. For you to have “called our bluff” is straight up impossible especially because it was never a bluff at all. Our ability is real. If you are scum, you know this to be a likely fact.

So we lied because we figured it might make us less of a target with both of our abilities used up.

So either you are a godfather, or an independent Jedi that shows up as a Jedi to our investigations, or you’re Town.

And yet Kon still believes you are scum, and the only reasonable possibility in his eyes was that somehow myself and shiny were lying. It’s not even that we got the wrong result, or that you are a godfather. It’s that we must be lying.

Call me confused and perplex.

That’s all from me. Carry on with the day phase.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

We did lie. I want you to remember this for later. Regardless, we are unquestionably lynching praline.

When we used our ability on you at 7 votes to check for a double voter, Vaan surprised us and said “yeah your action failed and you can’t use your action again for this phase.” In essence, we weren’t told prior that we couldn’t use it more than once per phase. This is all alleged, so believe what you want.

We claimed that you were with the Jedi because your entire gameplay leading up to the very moment that we got our result indicated you were someone that was all too willing to get their alignment check. As a non-godfather, I am compelled to believe that you realized there was an incredibly likely chance we were telling the truth. You saw with your own eyes that we hard-defended Natz. You knew that the chances of us lying were so completely minimal. For you to have “called our bluff” is straight up impossible especially because it was never a bluff at all. Our ability is real. If you are scum, you know this to be a likely fact.

So we lied because we figured it might make us less of a target with both of our abilities used up.

So either you are a godfather, or an independent Jedi that shows up as a Jedi to our investigations, or you’re Town.

And yet Kon still believes you are scum, and the only reasonable possibility in his eyes was that somehow myself and shiny were lying. It’s not even that we got the wrong result, or that you are a godfather. It’s that we must be lying.

Call me confused and perplex.

That’s all from me. Carry on with the day phase.

What.

You did lie?

What the hell bardul you put me through a freaking existential crisis.

 

[Deleted member]

What.

You did lie?

What the hell bardul you put me through a freaking existential crisis.

I am really sorry about all of this. I thought if we admitted the truth, you would all hate our guts.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

I am really sorry about all of this. I thought if we admitted the truth, you would all hate our guts.

I accept truth, as bitter it may be if nabe was town i would of accepted it. As i did with your lie.

Now the acceptance means absolutely nothing. Nabe is not town confirmed.

 

[Deleted member]

I accept truth, as bitter it may be if nabe was town i would of accepted it. As i did with your lie.

Now the acceptance means absolutely nothing. Nabe is not town confirmed.

Well, let's get praline off first and then we can talk things in Day 3.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

this might be a bad time for me to be eating supper, huh