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The Phantom Mafia - So This Is How Liberty Dies

LoneKonWolf

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I thought during the Day that they were the same ability, but at Night I realized that probably wasn't the case because it was told to me separate from the choke, and the choke rules say that I'm allowed to vote as an exception to talking, which would be unnecessary if it also caused the zeroed vote.
Told seperate from the choke?
Same ability?

You are not explaining things. Things that you should of explained when you were first given access to speaking.
 
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LoneKonWolf, when were you told you couldn't vote?
I never was.

I'm hypothesizing.

Nabes "take a seat konnie" was out of place and stood out alone, and i do not accept it as a joke of a refrences and i bombarded him with questions of more of it to which he continued to ignore until getting through a fine line list of things.

Then from the end of it he dared me to vote him, and that makes me believe he finally gave me my answer. That my vote has been removed and will count as nothing.

Its a hypothesis, but it is what i'm taking.
 

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I never was.

I'm hypothesizing.

Nabes "take a seat konnie" was out of place and stood out alone, and i do not accept it as a joke of a refrences and i bombarded him with questions of more of it to which he continued to ignore until getting through a fine line list of things.

Then from the end of it he dared me to vote him, and that makes me believe he finally gave me my answer. That my vote has been removed and will count as nothing.

Its a hypothesis, but it is what i'm taking.
No offense but this sounds crazy.

I explained it in full to Shish, the only player to ask me about it last Night.
I asked you about what happened to you during the day too.
 

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. . . I'm getting tired. . .
Your vote should not be trusted either. Ever.

After all you are the one we are testing.

@ShinyLegendary BarDulL BarDulL Do not trust bardul vote as. Only activate it when 8 or more other players, including those that are currently voting, are sitting on nabe.
replce the non tagged bardul with nabe. . .

This is a sign that i'm at my limit and request sleep.
 

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FYI, BarDulL is going to abide to the town's wishes.

So if praline gets the most votes, he checks praline. If Nabe gets the most votes, he checks Nabe.
I’m confused are votes still needed?

I’m in the hospital right now so I haven’t been able to keep up word for word here
Oh I hope you are all right. Is everything going fine?
 

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I’m confused are votes still needed?

I’m in the hospital right now so I haven’t been able to keep up word for word here
Shiny has an ability to check someone's alignment if they have the majority of votes.

So, we're voting Nabe to get him to majority so he can be copped.

It's possible this is all a lie to get Nabe executed, but I don't see the real benefit in mafia outing one of their own to do that
 

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FYI, BarDulL is going to abide to the town's wishes.

So if praline gets the most votes, he checks praline. If Nabe gets the most votes, he checks Nabe.

Oh I hope you are all right. Is everything going fine?
Thanks, I’ve been having chest pains so I need them checked out.
Shiny has an ability to check someone's alignment if they have the majority of votes.

So, we're voting Nabe to get him to majority so he can be copped.

It's possible this is all a lie to get Nabe executed, but I don't see the real benefit in mafia outing one of their own to do that
Ok, are we st majority vote if not I’ll change.
 

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Three pings? Blegh, this probably isn't good.

Moydow, Shishoe and AlphaSSB are all non existent.
Timezones exist, you know? The phase start was at 3am for me, no way I'm staying awake for that. Be patient.

Natz, a dead player, was targetted this Night.
So basically, we have Game of Thrones II: Revenge of the Night King?

Funny, in that game I got brought down because of you getting spotted when you were supposed to be dead, and now you're the one trying to do the bringing down in a similar fashion. :p

Though this one has nothing to do with me. I'd rather not say what my ability does just yet, of course.

Unvote

I'm sticking to my belief, we need 5 more on him.

@Shishœ
Moydow Moydow
Pokechu Pokechu
Z25 Z25
Fire Emblemier Fire Emblemier
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AlphaSSB AlphaSSB
Thirdkoopa Thirdkoopa

In order to alignment check nabe, we need 5 votes on him. Pleae put all votes on him and await shiny/bardul response. Then you can remove your vote based on your procedure.
I'll go along with this for now. I've only skimmed the thread so far since I'm on mobile and the thread has gained like seven pages overnight, but I'd like to get some sort of concrete answers on what's going on with Nabe.

I'll look at the rest of the thread in more detail later, for now I'm just going to respond to the stuff I was tagged for.



Vote: Nabe
 
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I really don't like Lonnie's conspiracy witch hunting on Nabe, he's reading everything Nane does as scummy, even the ****posting "take a seat".
Lonnie, take a step back because you really are overreacting.

Vote: Nabe

Get this check done already, I don't trust him 100% but this is just ridiculous.
Hm. . . Alright. . .

That is a fair idea. . . But then the matter of the question remains, who sent you that track, and why you specifically?
It's either at random and in line with Amnesiac Cop or they simply chose me for whatever reason. And if they chose it, then I have an idea of who it was at this point.
Shish I said publicly what I did last night.
Uhm, what are you talking about? None of your messages said anything regarding your Night actions
I explained it in full to Shish, the only player to ask me about it last Night.
I can confirm this but I was out when I received the message so I only saw it when Day had already started.
 

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Striked players are the ones who couldn't have possibly sent me the vision

1. Pokechu
2. Nabe
3. LoneKonWolf
4. Maven89
5. ShinyLegendary/BardulL
6. FireEmblemNier

7. praline
8. Opossum
9. GoldenYuitusin
10. Z25
11. Natz
12. Jojalole

13. Moydow
14. AlphaSSB
15. Thirdkoopa

Pokechu Pokechu praline praline @Opossum @GoldenYuiitusin Z25 Z25 Moydow Moydow AlphaSSB AlphaSSB Thirdkoopa Thirdkoopa
Which one of you did it?

There is only one Town role that can target dead players and that's a Coroner, which wouldn't be needed at all in Natz's case. It's either an original role or scummy and I'd like to know which, and I'm leaning towards "scummy and original"

I'd love to say who I it is but I'd like to let the person who did this to say it so they can confirm themselves.
Wasn't me. As I said before. I did nothing during the night.
 

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I really don't like Lonnie's conspiracy witch hunting on Nabe, he's reading everything Nane does as scummy, even the ****posting "take a seat".
Lonnie, take a step back because you really are overreacting.

Vote: Nabe

Get this check done already, I don't trust him 100% but this is just ridiculous.

It's either at random and in line with Amnesiac Cop or they simply chose me for whatever reason. And if they chose it, then I have an idea of who it was at this point.

Uhm, what are you talking about? None of your messages said anything regarding your Night actions

I can confirm this but I was out when I received the message so I only saw it when Day had already started.
Opo said he used a lie detector on me, but he used it on me saying I'm town which obviously he'd get no result on but he blames me for it cause he want some me to be sith really badly
 

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Day 1 VCA:

Maven: 1 (Thirdkoopa)
Shiny: 1 (AlphaSSB)
Natz: 3 (Shish, Opossum, Praline)
Opossum: 3 (Nabe, FireEmblemier, Pokechu)
Nabe: 1 (Natz)
Z25: 1 (Shiny)

Not voted yet: GoldenYuitusin, Jojalole, Moydow, Maven, Z25
So there was a double voter on the Natz wagon, then? I checked the vote count from yesterday too and got the same result, so if there really were 3 votes each on Natz and Opossum, then it should have been a draw and the phase should have went to extra time. That it didn't can only mean there was a double voter involved, right?

Though nobody else has brought this up, so maybe I'm just dumb or overlooking something?

I roleblocked Moydow
Any particular reason for this?
 
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Bar said this message to you all:
To ensure that whoever gets 8 votes does not randomly get executed from some mafia ability that also requires a majority, Shiny and I will bear the responsibility of putting the targeted player at the 8th and final vote needed for our ability to activate. We will pick a random time within 3 hours after the 7th vote has been placed on the targeted player in order to quickly cast the 8th vote on them, use our ability, and then remove the vote. This ensures the least risk. Additionally, our ability will not fizz out if there isn't a technical majority, so even if there is a player that is able to make a vote not count, we will not use our ability use.
Three pings? Blegh, this probably isn't good.


Timezones exist, you know? The phase start was at 3am for me, no way I'm staying awake for that. Be patient.
My apologies.
 

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Also aren't lie detectors usually prevented from working on statements like "I'm town" or "I'm mafia"? Seems like the obvious explanation for Opossum's "no result" to me.

I mean, there still seems to be plenty of reason to find praline suspicious anyway, but I still thought that was worth mentioning.
 
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We need three more votes to be able to get if Nabe is a Jedi or a Sith.
 
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We need three more votes to be able to get if Nabe is a Jedi or a Sith.
On Nabe, of course.
Also aren't lie detectors usually prevented from working on statements like "I'm town" or "I'm mafia"? Seems like the obvious explanation for Opossum's "no result" to me.

I mean, there still seems to be plenty of reason to find praline suspicious anyway, but I still thought that was worth mentioning.
Huhhh, that is pretty interesting.
You should be right, because a lie detector would be way to op for the town to have if it can do that.
 
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So there was a double voter on the Natz wagon, then? I checked the vote count from yesterday too and got the same result, so if there really were 3 votes each on Natz and Opossum, then it should have been a draw and the phase should have went to extra time. That it didn't can only mean there was a double voter involved, right?

Though nobody else has brought this up, so maybe I'm just dumb or overlooking something?


Any particular reason for this?
Are we sure this votecount is correct though?
 

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I really don't like Lonnie's conspiracy witch hunting on Nabe, he's reading everything Nane does as scummy, even the ****posting "take a seat".
Lonnie, take a step back because you really are overreacting.

Vote: Nabe

Get this check done already, I don't trust him 100% but this is just ridiculous.

It's either at random and in line with Amnesiac Cop or they simply chose me for whatever reason. And if they chose it, then I have an idea of who it was at this point.

Uhm, what are you talking about? None of your messages said anything regarding your Night actions

I can confirm this but I was out when I received the message so I only saw it when Day had already started.
Ya i admit, I was somewhat running on paranoia dued to stress and sleep deprivation. Looking back at it i imagine i earned a well induced tin foil hat.

Despite that, I do still stand by my reasoning. I don't believe i am overreacting. Nabe who was a propornate against me suddenly becomes willing does not ring favorably to me. I don't believe that out of place strict saying sentence is fitting for a **** post, for there was no humor into it. I believe nabe has done something against me.

Either way Vote: Nabe

If my belief is correct this vote has 0 value. Dued to nabe.

How many votes are we up to now?
So there was a double voter on the Natz wagon, then? I checked the vote count from yesterday too and got the same result, so if there really were 3 votes each on Natz and Opossum, then it should have been a draw and the phase should have went to extra time. That it didn't can only mean there was a double voter involved, right?

Though nobody else has brought this up, so maybe I'm just dumb or overlooking something?


Any particular reason for this?
. . . Moydow excellent point.

But. . . Don't you believe it would be dead obvious if a double voter outed themselves out? They'll be the next target immeditally upon the next lynch. . .It'll be to much of a risk if they didn't confirm themselves. . .

Is it possible. . . On the other end for opossum someones voted counted for nothing?

It could help connect to my theory that nabe eliminated my vote.
Bar said this message to you all:
To ensure that whoever gets 8 votes does not randomly get executed from some mafia ability that also requires a majority, Shiny and I will bear the responsibility of putting the targeted player at the 8th and final vote needed for our ability to activate. We will pick a random time within 3 hours after the 7th vote has been placed on the targeted player in order to quickly cast the 8th vote on them, use our ability, and then remove the vote. This ensures the least risk. Additionally, our ability will not fizz out if there isn't a technical majority, so even if there is a player that is able to make a vote not count, we will not use our ability use.

My apologies.
I recomend no at 8, I do not want to accept chances shiny and bardul. Especially if i'm convience there is vote tom foolery in place here. I suggest go above majority and stand at 9, it makes no difference either way and helps to ensure no voting makeshifts happen.
 

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There is currently five voting for Nabe.

I counted it. For some reason Nabe's and Kon's votes are "broken".
I was not insane then!

Nabe did screw with my vote.

And according to the vote count nabe voted for oposuum for a tie, but yet katt died by majority.

If nabes vote is broken then that means nabe is making his vote completely worthless along with mine.
 
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