The Old Counter Game

[Ilucamy]

>.< Come on ORLY, Camerupt is way too easy to counter, give us a challenge


@Camerupt

Clamperl@DeepSeaTooth
Modest/Shell Armor
188Hp/252SpAtk/68spe
-Hydro Pump
-Blizzard
-HP Electric
-Substitute

(Barely) Survives Overheat or easily survives Earthquake and outspeeds you by one point. Hydro Pump for the 542 SpAtk NFE Win.

That's pretty tough to counter.
@Clamperl

Ampharos@Choice Specs
Modest / Static
252 Sp. Atk / 252 Sp. Def / 4 Hp
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast
-Signal Beam
-Power Jem

It's not the best, but I'm too lazy to go figure it out exactly what amount of Sp. Def it needs, so I'm playing it safe. I barely survive Hydro Pump and kill you with Thunderbolt.

 

[0RLY]

A challenge eh?

@ Ampharos:

Piloswine @ Life Orb
Adamant/Snow Cloak
252Atk/252HP/4SpD
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Ice Shard
-Curse

Raises stats and smites.

 

[Pink Reaper]

@Piloswine

Bibarel@Leftovers
Simple/Impish
252Def/216Hp/40Hp
-Defense Curl
-Amnesia
-Super Fang
-Waterfall

ULTRA BEAVER GOOOOOOOO. Simple gives it defense up the *** and Super Fang eats(lolpun) through your defense. It also decreases the amount of times your allowed to attack due to life orb recoil.

 

[Platypus]

Against the unhuggable beaver:

Kingdra w/ Custap (priority) Berry
Hardy/Sniper
100 Atk./ 55 Sp. Atk./ 120 Def./ 100 Sp. Def./ 135 Speed
+ Focus Energy
+ Octazooka
+ Draco Meteor
+ Earthquake
Your moves are almost useless. Criticals pierce stat boosts, anyways. Borders, borders, borders.

 

[0RLY]

Does a 12% critical rate really make a counter, especially with no Super Effective moves? Oh and you can't learn Earthquake. Wanna make that HP (Ground) instead? Well, even so, you still don't seem to counter.

EDIT: *steals your idea*

Absol @ Scope Lens
Adamant/Super Luck
252atk/252spe/4def
-Me First
-Night Slash
-Psycho Cut
-Brick Break

33% chance for critical with Brick Break (stage 4), and 50% chance of critical with Night Slash/Psycho Cut (stage 5 -max-).

 

[Pink Reaper]

Yeah, considering he's coming in on the most defensive beaver EVAR, I think we need a new counter. ORLY, its up to you :D

@Absol

Vespiquen@Leftovers
Bold/Pressure
252Hp/252Def/4SpDef
-Attack Order
-Defend Order
-Roost
-HP Fighting

Rather basic physical wall. Even if you crit I should be ok as I can just roost it off(without losing my 4x fighting resistance :D) Me First all you want, i resist both of my own moves :D

 

[Platypus]

Against Vespiquen:

Venomoth w/ Black Sludge
Naive/Tinted Lens
85 H.P./ 145 Atk/ 70 Sp. Atk./ 100 Def./ 100 Sp. Def.
+ HP Rock
+ Poison Fang
+ Bug Buzz
+ Sleep Powder
With your two dually-NVE moves and your zero attack EVs, you are nowhere near immune to being Badly Poisoned and/or rapidly killed. Also, why are Vespiquen's base stats so much higher than Venomoth's?

 

[0RLY]

@ Vespiquen:

Charizard @ Salac Berry
Jolly/Blaze
252Atk/252Spe/4SpD
-Fire Punch
-Earthquake
-Substitute
-Belly Drum

Because it works. Your attacks barely scratch me, and I can still ohko you, regardless of your defenses, after my Belly Drum. Good Luck.

 

[Pink Reaper]

lol, your a little late ORLY and, believe it or not, that Venomoth has a chance to OHKO you with HP Rock so that doesn't really work against it.

 

[0RLY]

one minute off... =;(

Well, if bellyzard was the counter, which Pokemon would you use?

@ Venomoth:

Toxicroak @ Lum Berry
Jolly/Anticipation
252Spe/252Atk/4HP
-Swords Dance
-Cross Chop
-Stone Edge
-X-Scissor

Resists all moves, outspeeds, you get the idea.

 

[Pink Reaper]

IF bellyzard was the counter, I'd use

Moltres@Leftovers
Impish/Pressure
252Hp/252Def/4SpAtk
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-HP Rock
-Fire Blast

Resists your only move and could come in on Substitute and break it as you Belly Drum and HP rock you next turn.

As for Toxicroak

Shaymin@Leftovers
Bold/Natural Cure
144Hp/126Def/240Spe
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
-Psychic
-Hp Fire

Lol, NO STAB! This little guy gets no love(mostly cus he sucks compared to Celebi) but I outspeed you by one point and OHKO you with Psychic.

 

[M.K]

IF bellyzard was the counter, I'd use

Moltres@Leftovers
Impish/Pressure
252Hp/252Def/4SpAtk
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-HP Rock
-Fire Blast

Resists your only move and could come in on Substitute and break it as you Belly Drum and HP rock you next turn.

As for Toxicroak

Shaymin@Leftovers
Bold/Natural Cure
144Hp/126Def/240Spe
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
-Psychic
-Hp Fire

Lol, NO STAB! This little guy gets no love(mostly cus he sucks compared to Celebi) but I outspeed you by one point and OHKO you with Psychic.

@ Shaymin

Empoleon @ Leftovers
Modest/Torrent
252 Speed/252 Sp. Attack/4 Sp. Defense
- Ice Beam
-Surf
-Hidden Power Ground
-Stealth Rock

 

[Pink Reaper]

Why would you put max speed on something so slow? And for that matter, you do realize that your not allowed to use Stealth Rocks in the counter game right?

 

[M.K]

Why would you put max speed on something so slow? And for that matter, you do realize that your not allowed to use Stealth Rocks in the counter game right?

Sigh....

LOL, I failed. Sorry about that, I guess I need to read the rules a bit more!

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

What happened to my counter game? X.X lol

I'll edit my first post in this thread, if you guys want me to.

 

[0RLY]

OMG! W4M IS BACKKZ!!!! HOLY CRAP!!

...oh and yes, I'd love for the first post to be editted.

@ Shaymin:

Houndoom @ Salac Berry
Mild/Flash Fire
252SpA/176Spe/80Atk
-Substitute
-Dark Pulse
-Fire Blast
-Reversal

Immune to your attacks. Fire Blast brings the pain. Able to sub down to a Salac boost at 1% HP if needed.

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

lol It's a pleasure to be back. ^_^

But yeah, that "(read: NEW RULE)" is getting on my nerves.

Alrighty then. Just post the new rules here or send them to me via PM, and I'll change it.

 

[Bowser King]

What happened to your font colour and your

-until we meet again??

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

I don't know. lol
I think it's because I prefer a new name now.

Anyway, does Chill still mod these forums? In that case, we don't want to get too off topic.

 

[Bowser King]

I don't know. lol
I think it's because I prefer a new name now.

Anyway, does Chill still mod these forums? In that case, we don't want to get too off topic.

Nope. He rarely comes. Actually, a mod rarely comes.

We get a weekly visit by a mod only for closing threads but nothing else. Almost all threads are going off-topic (except this one).

 

[Pink Reaper]

OMG! W4M IS BACKKZ!!!! HOLY CRAP!!

...oh and yes, I'd love for the first post to be editted.

@ Shaymin:

Houndoom @ Salac Berry
Mild/Flash Fire
252SpA/176Spe/80Atk
-Substitute
-Dark Pulse
-Fire Blast
-Reversal

Immune to your attacks. Fire Blast brings the pain. Able to sub down to a Salac boost at 1% HP if needed.

@ Houndoom

Blaziken@Leftovers
Rash/Blaze
200Atk/56SpAtk/252Spe
-Agility
-Sky Uppercut
-Fire Blast
-Thunderpunch

Resists both your STAB moves giving it enough time to Agility, from there its just a matter of breaking your subs, and even if salac activates you wont outspeed me.

 

[boo836]

Salamence:@ leftovers
Intimidate
Bold
216hp, 252 def, 40 spd
roost
toxic
Earthquake
Dragon claw

I resist stab and wall you cause of ability + bold. I then can EQ you.


Sorry I didn't quote though. That was my mistake and I realised once I hit enter. ><

 

[RedPeppers]

Hey boo836 there was an unofficial (soon to be official) rule change to only use BL and below Pokes in "The Counter Game". Not your fault because your new and all. Glad to see you read the rules.

 

[sonofthesky]

Arceus@Choice band
~Giga impact

...JUUUSSTTT joking.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Salamence:@ leftovers
Intimidate
Bold
216hp, 252 def, 40 spd
roost
toxic
Earthquake
Dragon claw

I resist stab and wall you cause of ability + bold. I then can EQ you.


Sorry I didn't quote though. That was my mistake and I realised once I hit enter. ><

Tangrowth@Leftovers
Modest/Chlorophyll
252Spe/252SpAtk/4Hp
-Sunnyday
-Solar Beam
-HP Ice
-Focus Blast

 

[Mr.Postman]

Unown@ Adamant Orb
Relaxed
12 hp, 12 atk, 12 def, 12 speed, 12 s.atk 12 s.def
Hidden Power Rock
Giga Impact
Hydro Cannon
Shoop da woop

 

[boo836]

Unown@ Adamant Orb
Relaxed
12 hp, 12 atk, 12 def, 12 speed, 12 s.atk 12 s.def
Hidden Power Rock
Giga Impact
Hydro Cannon
Shoop da woop

Magikarp@Choice specs
Adamant
252 att, 252 spd, 6hp
Splash
Tackle
Flail


Errrmmm...


Venusaur:@ Lefties
Adamant nature
252 att, 252 hp, 6 spdef
Swords dance
Seed bomb
Leech seed
Substitute

That poke that post posted(xD) is just set up fodder.
Both sets counter that thing cause karp's a monster

 

[Mr.Postman]

ORLy @ Noob Skills
Noob
252 Lame, 252 I suck
25 cent hooker
I like balls in my mouth
Jump on my face naked king kong
Shove it down my throat gyarados

 

[boo836]

Post, you know better than this. On Pc, you would be banned by now. =/

To stay on topic:
Typhlosion:@ choice scarf
Mild
252 spatt, 252 spd, 6 hp
Eruption
Flamethrower
Hp [Grass]
Focus Punch

This just hurts badly. Scarf eruption also is just awesome.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Wait, what the **** is the counter for my Tangrowth?

 

[boo836]

Tangrowth@Leftovers
Modest/Chlorophyll
252Spe/252SpAtk/4Hp
-Sunnyday
-Solar Beam
-HP Ice
-Focus Blast

It's hard to list one, but with post posting sets of random things... Bah, I'll just ignore him.

Here's the counter then

Regice:@lefties
Calm nature
252 hp, 252 SPdef, 6 spatt
Ice beam
Charge beam
Rest
Sleep talk

The one of the best special walls for BL. Ice beam to cool off your spaghettii.

 

[Pink Reaper]

@ Regice

Armaldo@Life Orb
Adamant/Battle Armor
252Atk/252Spe/4Hp
-Rock Polish
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-X-Scissor

And there it is.

 

[boo836]

@ Regice

Armaldo@Life Orb
Adamant/Battle Armor
252Atk/252Spe/4Hp
-Rock Polish
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-X-Scissor

And there it is.

Marowak:@ Thick Club
Adamant
Rock head
252 hp, 252 att, 6 spd
Swords dance
Earthquake
Stone edge
Aerial Ace

252 hp allows durability and TC, Adamant, Stab, Earthquakes WILL hurt.

 

[TehBo49]

@ Marowak:

Kingdra @ Life Orb
Modest
Swift Swim
168 HP/252 Sp Atk/88 Spe
Rain Dance
Ice Beam
HP Electric
Surf

Surf OHKOs Marowak even without setting up.

 

[Pink Reaper]

@Kingdra

Ludicolo@Leftovers
Sassy/Rain Dish
200 Hp/252 SpDef/58SpAtk
-Rain Dance
-Leech Seed
-Surf
-Grass Knot

Sponges your attacks well and just LOVES the rain with a combination of Rain Dance, Leech Seed and Leftovers, this thing wont die any time soon.

 

[TehBo49]

@ Ludicolo:

Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Calm
Liquid Ooze
204 HP/96 Sp Atk/172 Sp Def/36 Spe
-Toxic Spikes
-Knock Off
-Sludge Bomb
-Surf

Immune to Leech Seed, removes your Leftovers, resists Surf, & kills you off with Sludge Bomb.

 

[boo836]

Mesprit: @ leftovers
Modest
252 hp, 160 spatt, 96 spdef
-Calm mind
-thunderbolt
-Psychic
-Ice beam

I come in, CM, psychic you away.

 

[Platypus]

Assuming that Mesprit loses its Leftovers:

Bastiodon w/Leftovers
Adamant/Sturdy
50 HP/ 255 Atk./ 205 Sp. Def.
+ Avalanche
+ Swagger
+ Iron Tail
+ Metal Burst
Swagger and Metal Burst are apropo. Yes, I am slow.

 

[Pink Reaper]

@Bastidon

Slowbro@Leftovers
Modest/Own Tempo
212Hp/252Def/44SpAtk
-Calm Mind
-Slack Off
-Surf
-Psychic

Your moves do nothing to me and gives me more than enough time to set up.

 

[RedPeppers]

@ Slowbro

Slowbro (He resists the moveset! Lol.) @ Leftovers
Nature: Modest
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 Sdef/ 252 Satk / 6 Hp
Dig
Slack Off
Ice Beam
HP Electric

That was like the easiest counter ever! It's more fun to nail ORLy with a Surskit though........ : (