The Official Thread For the Sal Romano/Gematsu Leak

[CyberWolfBia]

I would actually be disappointed if this were the full roster, but I'm confident that it won't be.

Me not;... with the newcomers already revealed, will be 12 new fighters, quite different one from another and beyond bringing a lot of potential for the roster, not only by possible unique movesets, but legacy, story, new characters and representation of different ages and consoles.

Whereas that most of the cast from Brawl can return (I believe in small cuts), only the addition of these 12 characters is already wonderful for the game and the Super Smash Bros. series in general. But... of course, the fact that they never specified clearly if all these 12 newcomers would be only new characters (apart from revelation of Rosalina, out of plans of the leaker), makes me have hope for a few more (2 or 3) newcomers being added to the game; me if not, for me, it's already a great roster!

and I honestly think that people should be more satisfied with the situation than just thinking about your own likes and complain that your favorite/supported character wasn't added ... we need to think in the good for the game, the diversity that these inclusions can bring. 0/

 

[Deleted member]

Can we add this to the OP.

Sure, why not? All I need to do is find it.

People chalking up actually predicting WFT as no big thing obv weren't around here when it happened.

The only reason belief in the leak faltered was because Pac, Mac, and Mii didn't show up at E3. What's funny is how much Mac's confirmation strengthened it again though, as if that was some crazy pick.

To be fair, you did dismiss the leak for quite awhile after E3 2013.

I also would argue that Mii's would not strength the Sal Romano leak in any way. After the Villager's confirmation, I would have seen them as very likely even if Sakurai were to come up tomorrow and say the Sal Romano and RosalinaX leak were a fake. Pac-Man probably would strengthen the leak for me (not that I don't believe it already), if only because I would have seen a Tales rep as more likely. However, if Chorus Men gets in, then there should be no more doubt of the legitimacy of the leak.

Did Sal ever state that the characters will be playable in the game, or did he just say they were in the game?

Pretty obvious from the context that they are newcomers. I mean, we didn't see Mega Man as a sticker why Ryu became playable, didn't we?

So I found the picture that matches this thread 10 fold

Please no warning, this relates completely to the topic -_-

If it helps, it is pretty odd that Rosalina was never mentioned by the leaker, but from the vagueness that is "Animal Crossing Guy" and "Pokemon from X/Y", maybe the supplier doesn't know ALL the characters (also would make sense since only about 10 were "leaked".

That Mii picture is starting into my soul...

But everyone else should suffer as well, so sure, why not?

Also, Sal Romano leaked eleven characters, not ten.

Can we add this to the OP.

Sure, why not? All I need to do is find it.

 

[Deleted member]

If this was all of the newcomers, I have to say, more of them don't play the uniqueness role that Sakurai is trying to achieve: more 2 sword users, even if Shulk has some special abilities, he still uses a sword; We usually get one joke character, this time it was WFT, one joke char is acceptable, but two...; Do I even need to touch Mii and Pac-Man?
The only unconfirmed newcomer that actually would bring something unique is Palutena, that has already been speculated since KI:U release

 

[Halfhead]

If this was all of the newcomers, I have to say, more of them don't play the uniqueness role that Sakurai is trying to achieve: more 2 sword users, even if Shulk has some special abilities, he still uses a sword; We usually get one joke character, this time it was WFT, one joke char is acceptable, but two...; Do I even need to touch Mii and Pac-Man?
The only unconfirmed newcomer that actually would bring something unique is Palutena, that has already been speculated since KI:U release

You don't think Mii or Pac would bring anything unique? They are way easier to develop cool new movesets for than Palutena who seems to me like she would have a vaguely Zelda-like moveset. Also, Chorus Men is totally out there in uniqueness if they pull it off in a professional way. I agree that Chrom and Shulk seem like two too many new sword guys, though.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

I don't get the concept of "joke characters"... What is a "joke character"? .. Wii Fit Trainer? ... just cause she's not a character from an action game she's less worth than the others? ... Wii Fit was very successful if I know well. R.O.B.? ...alongside with the Power Glove, one of the most relevant NES peripherical..in terms, is the "face of NES",.. Not only to mention Mr. Game & Watch, which represents big part of Nintendo story... he represents a part of Nintendo that is very well successful, the handheld... What would be the 3DS without the existence of the Game & Watch before?

and now... which characters are pointed as "joke"? The Miis?... they're joke in any other game that they're playable? no... they're you... if you are calling them joke, so you're the joke. lol... And the Chorus Men? .. once again, it's a big franchise, with BIG appeal,.. and they deserve the spot, for sure. And we don't have any musical character in the game yet... they'll be a great addition.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

If this was all of the newcomers, I have to say, more of them don't play the uniqueness role that Sakurai is trying to achieve: more 2 sword users, even if Shulk has some special abilities, he still uses a sword; We usually get one joke character, this time it was WFT, one joke char is acceptable, but two...; Do I even need to touch Mii and Pac-Man?
The only unconfirmed newcomer that actually would bring something unique is Palutena, that has already been speculated since KI:U release

I didn't expect every newcomer character to be unique and if this leak is wholly correct and Chrom makes it in, I can use him as an counter-argument against the idea that semi-clone newcomer "cannot" happen due to the emphasis on uniqueness that Sakurai was talking about with people supposedly taking it as a confirmation that every newcomer character are guaranteed to be 100% inherently unique and thus characters such as Toon Zelda may not happen. Chrom is not by far the most diverse character that one could have picked out of the FE franchise (although, nevertheless, he is still obviously believable)

I wouldn't be surprised if Sal had a final batch of newcomers leaked that includes someone like Toon Zelda.

 

[Deleted member]

You don't think Mii or Pac would bring anything unique? They are way easier to develop cool new movesets for than Palutena who seems to me like she would have a vaguely Zelda-like moveset. Also, Chorus Men is totally out there in uniqueness if they pull it off in a professional way. I agree that Chrom and Shulk seem like two too many new sword guys, though.

What would Miis do? All of the tools they use in the Minigames are already used by other chars and please tell me what Pac-Man would do, as already stated here, his latest games have been terrible and the fact that his next game isn't exclusive doesn't help
Pac-Man Moveset: chomp, chomp, chomp

 

[Deleted member]

I don't get the concept of "joke characters"... What is a "joke character"? .. Wii Fit Trainer? ... just cause she's not a character from an action game she's less worth than the others? ... Wii Fit was very successful if I know well. R.O.B.? ...alongside with the Power Glove, one of the most relevant NES peripherical..in terms, is the "face of NES",.. Not only to mention Mr. Game & Watch, which represents big part of Nintendo story... he represents a part of Nintendo that is very well successful, the handheld... What would be the 3DS without the existence of the Game & Watch before?

and now... which characters are pointed as "joke"? The Miis?... they're joke in any other game that they're playable? no... they're you... if you are calling them joke, so you're the joke. lol... And the Chorus Men? .. once again, it's a big franchise, with BIG appeal,.. and they deserve the spot, for sure. And we don't have any musical character in the game yet... they'll be a great addition.

Joke chars are those who don't have a fighting style or are not even a char, G&W, ROB, WFT, those are the joke chars, those that would be considered stupid requests beffore their additions, and even if the franchose is a big appeal, it doesn't change the fact that they are not the main chars

 

[Louie G.]

The Chorus Men pop up around the Internet, and are the first few pictures when searching Rhythm Heaven on Google.
A trio works very well when trying to emphasize the rhythm aspect of the game, as they all must be in synch.
Rhythm Heaven doesn't have a set main character, so choosing characters from a popular minigame is smart.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

What would Miis do? All of the tools they use in the Minigames are already used by other chars and please tell me what Pac-Man would do, as already stated here, his latest games have been terrible and the fact that his next game isn't exclusive doesn't help
Pac-Man Moveset: chomp, chomp, chomp

Pac-Man has over 80 games, dude. And a lot of them are platforms, as Mario. If you don't know nothing about the character, you should talk less about the potential of moveset of him. or at least, research a bit about. and although the last game was pretty simple (I wouldn't call bad, really), this didn't stop Sonic of appearing in the roster in the same circunstances of Pac (I mean, a guest character)... and he doesn't have a good game since... 1993? =P. And some of Nintendo characters suffer of the same fate, what we can talk about Metroid: Other M, huh? XD

This isn't argument, Pac-Man, Samus and Sonic are very heavy icons in the gaming industry,.. all represents their legacy, more than their recent incarnations. And potential is always there,.. even if nonexistent, ...Captain Falcon can say for you.

Joke chars are those who don't have a fighting style or are not even a char, G&W, ROB, WFT, those are the joke chars, those that would be considered stupid requests beffore their additions, and even if the franchose is a big appeal, it doesn't change the fact that they are not the main chars

Oh, I get it.. joke character is the character that you think is a joke. right.. the concept is just the bias. Dude, seriously,... people say that Phoenix Wright is a joke character in UMVC3, but he was one of the most requested character in the official poll, and I voted a lot on him... and the result? He's very unique in the game.. his gameplay is awesome, and make you think in a frenetic game as UMVC3 is.. People who call him joke is the real joke.

I gave you the reasons of WFT, R.O.B. and G&W being included, .. they're "unexpected", but I would never call them joke.

 

[Louie G.]

Not sure if this adds to the topic at hand or not, so sorry if it's off topic.
But arguing that Pac-Man would be boring because he just chomps is idiotic.

We have characters like Captain Falcon and Ice Climbers that had NO moveset potential before they were added. Yet they got a great and interesting moveset in Smash.

Even if Pac-Man's moves are simply chomping, Sonic's moves are simply rolling, yet nobody complains about him. I love Sonic in Smash Bros, but Pac-Man has just as much potential as Sonic.

 

[SpeedBoost]

Oh god, this is reminding me of the Super Smash Bros Brawl days. Once people found out it was only 35 characters and ROB was in the game (It didn't help that people thought it was ROB from Star Fox), a **** storm went down for a long time. They still bought the game though, and I know all of you guys will too, even if it does not have your "favorite character/most logical character". And the funny thing is I went back to some old threads on smashboards that where saying "THE ROSTER IS FAKE!!!! NO RIDLEY, NO KRYSTAL, WHO IS ROB!!!! FAKKKEEE!!!" I can even quote some more, it is just funny because people thought there would be 50 characters in ssbb.... yeah. Just saying all of you thinking this leak is fake, think of why Sakurai would want to put those characters in the game, not why you want them in the game.

Btw I felt like showing more butt-hurt quotes of people during the Brawl age:

"rob from starrfox is way too minor, and giving starfox 4 reps with no krystal is a strech"
"This roster blows, and that's the main reason I despise even considering it."
"Ahhh, good ol' photoshop... You know how I can tell that second picture is a fake? There aren't any hands or colored tokens showing that a player has picked a character... Big mistake for the guy who forgot to photoshop that in..."
"Wow, If you think ROB is in the roster, you probably think Master Chief is in too."
"ROB. Seriously, ROB is an uninteresting character with no fanbase or significance. Why would he be in"
"Wolf. He's a Fox palette swap, why make a who character for him? It just doesn't make sense. Also, wasn't Krystal leaked by a VA? Where's she?"
"thats cuz that roster isnt real, the 35 part might be right but anybody could just guess which 35 theres no real proof, there probly will be 5 characters from either mario(geno,bowser jr),zelda, or pokemon series...."
"WTF...what the crap?? That can't be right...gotta be fake. C'mon, R.O.B.? The actual roster has ye to be seen, I'm sure of it."
*"The 35 roster is BS, true and true. Do you really think Sakurai would go out of his way and make such poor character choices? People delude themselves way too much"*
"The roster can't be real. Problems with the theory keep appearing, and no new screens/vids/anything appear to defend it. Too slow... if this "leak" was real... and thus the corroboration of the roster... we'd know by now."
There was one more I really wanted to show, basically a guy wrote an entire ESSAY of why he hated the SSBB roster before launch, and he said he was done with Smash Bros. It was really funny I wish I found it.
Buy anyways the underlined quote is pretty much EXACTLY what you people are sounding like, lets not repeat this cycle of people being dumb. We are smarter than this.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

Not sure if this adds to the topic at hand or not, so sorry if it's off topic.
But arguing that Pac-Man would be boring because he just chomps is idiotic.

We have characters like Captain Falcon and Ice Climbers that had NO moveset potential before they were added. Yet they got a great and interesting moveset in Smash.

Even if Pac-Man's moves are simply chomping, Sonic's moves are simply rolling, yet nobody complains about him. I love Sonic in Smash Bros, but Pac-Man has just as much potential as Sonic.

I love Sonic moveset in Smash as well... he does everything that he needs to do for be the simple Sonic The Hedgehog from the SEGA Genesis days.. He acts as Sonic, ... he's not a overpowered version of himself, as him in the newest games, with Boost and all.. Sakurai made him perfect, and he's perfect example to show how a character should be represent in Smash, by being what he is in his legacy, in his mark in the gaming story.
--and, Pac is well know for chomping, and of course I expect he's doing a lot of it in Smash, but material is something there's no lack for Pac-Man. As I said, over 80 games isn't for nothing.. even in SFxTK, riding a robot, all those moves he does in the game, are from past games he starred.

 

[Deleted member]

Pac-Man has over 80 games, dude. And a lot of them are platforms, as Mario. If you don't know nothing about the character, you should talk less about the potential of moveset of him. or at least, research a bit about. and although the last game was pretty simple (I wouldn't call bad, really), this didn't stop Sonic of appearing in the roster in the same circunstances of Pac (I mean, a guest character)... and he doesn't have a good game since... 1993? =P. And some of Nintendo characters suffer of the same fate, what we can talk about Metroid: Other M, huh? XD

This isn't argument, Pac-Man, Samus and Sonic are very heavy icons in the gaming industry,.. all represents their legacy, more than their recent incarnations. And potential is always there,.. even if nonexistent, ...Captain Falcon can say for you.


Oh, I get it.. joke character is the character that you think is a joke. right.. the concept is just the bias. Dude, seriously,... people say that Phoenix Wright is a joke character in UMVC3, but he was one of the most requested character in the official poll, and I voted a lot on him... and the result? He's very unique in the game.. his gameplay is awesome, and make you think in a frenetic game as UMVC3 is.. People who call him joke is the real joke.

I gave you the reasons of WFT, R.O.B. and G&W being included, .. they're "unexpected", but I would never call them joke.

I think you didn't get my point,, I'm not saying moveset is a problem, I'm saying it wouldn't bring anything unique since we already have two chars that can inhale things and one who Standard B is called chomp, Samus had one bad game, Pac-Man had, like, 5 or more, about joke chars, Phoenix may be requested and a joke char at the same time, it's the way he fights that counts, WFT with Sun Salutation, G&W with all of his moves and ROB just for being in the game, I like ROB but he is a joke char, "joke" is something made for people laugh, now tell me what was everyone's reaction when WFT was announced

 

[Louie G.]

I think you didn't get my point,, I'm not saying moveset is a problem, I'm saying it wouldn't bring anything unique since we already have two chars that can inhale things and one who Standard B is called chomp, Samus had one bad game, Pac-Man had, like, 5 or more, about joke chars, Phoenix may be requested and a joke char at the same time, it's the way he fights that counts, WFT with Sun Salutation, G&W with all of his moves and ROB just for being in the game, I like ROB but he is a joke char, "joke" is something made for people laugh, now tell me what was everyone's reaction when WFT was announced

*Doesn't talk about how many bad games Sonic had.

Stop being biased against Pac-Man, everyone. Seriously, it sounds worse and worse every day.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh god, this is reminding me of the Super Smash Bros Brawl days. Once people found out it was only 35 characters and ROB was in the game (It didn't help that people thought it was ROB from Star Fox), a **** storm went down for a long time. They still bought the game though, and I know all of you guys will too, even if it does not have your "favorite character/most logical character". And the funny thing is I went back to some old threads on smashboards that where saying "THE ROSTER IS FAKE!!!! NO RIDLEY, NO KRYSTAL, WHO IS ROB!!!! FAKKKEEE!!!" I can even quote some more, it is just funny because people thought there would be 50 characters in ssbb.... yeah. Just saying all of you thinking this leak is fake, think of why Sakurai would want to put those characters in the game, not why you want them in the game.

Btw I felt like showing more butt-hurt quotes of people during the Brawl age:

"rob from starrfox is way too minor, and giving starfox 4 reps with no krystal is a strech"
"This roster blows, and that's the main reason I despise even considering it."
"Ahhh, good ol' photoshop... You know how I can tell that second picture is a fake? There aren't any hands or colored tokens showing that a player has picked a character... Big mistake for the guy who forgot to photoshop that in..."
"Wow, If you think ROB is in the roster, you probably think Master Chief is in too."
"ROB. Seriously, ROB is an uninteresting character with no fanbase or significance. Why would he be in"
"Wolf. He's a Fox palette swap, why make a who character for him? It just doesn't make sense. Also, wasn't Krystal leaked by a VA? Where's she?"
"thats cuz that roster isnt real, the 35 part might be right but anybody could just guess which 35 theres no real proof, there probly will be 5 characters from either mario(geno,bowser jr),zelda, or pokemon series...."
"WTF...what the crap?? That can't be right...gotta be fake. C'mon, R.O.B.? The actual roster has ye to be seen, I'm sure of it."
*"The 35 roster is BS, true and true. Do you really think Sakurai would go out of his way and make such poor character choices? People delude themselves way too much"*
"The roster can't be real. Problems with the theory keep appearing, and no new screens/vids/anything appear to defend it. Too slow... if this "leak" was real... and thus the corroboration of the roster... we'd know by now."
There was one more I really wanted to show, basically a guy wrote an entire ESSAY of why he hated the SSBB roster before launch, and he said he was done with Smash Bros. It was really funny I wish I found it.
Buy anyways the underlined quote is pretty much EXACTLY what you people are sounding like, lets not repeat this cycle of people being dumb. We are smarter than this.

I'm not complaining about the final roster, some of them are logical choices, but there is no evidence that proves this is all, *sigh* I'm leaving this thread and you can call me here if it happens to be true, if the Choir Boys are revealed, I'll believe in the "leak"

 

[CyberWolfBia]

I think you didn't get my point,, I'm not saying moveset is a problem, I'm saying it wouldn't bring anything unique since we already have two chars that can inhale things and one who Standard B is called chomp, Samus had one bad game, Pac-Man had, like, 5 or more, about joke chars, Phoenix may be requested and a joke char at the same time, it's the way he fights that counts, WFT with Sun Salutation, G&W with all of his moves and ROB just for being in the game, I like ROB but he is a joke char, "joke" is something made for people laugh, now tell me what was everyone's reaction when WFT was announced

Okay.. and why you're assuming that Pac will act exactly as the other characters that "eat" things, like Kirby or Yoshi?.. Did you ever played his games? He probably will have this similarity with other character, and no more... He would be a very interesting mix of characters, a mix of Mario, Kirby and Sonic.. again, if you don't know too much about the character, you should research a bit before talk about him;

--and... excuse me.. 5 game? what 5 games? '-'.. at most, we can agree with Ghostly Adventures not reaching the objective, but.. it's just one,.. what are the other four? lol. ... and still, it's 5 of 80+. :T... and Sonic have over 10 bad games, couting with main line game and SpinOFFs, and then? .. he still same strong icon Sonic The Hedgehog, and got in the roster of Brawl in his worst days... after Sonic '06. ...

and about the concept of joke characters, you trying to make them seem less worth than a "SUPER COOL" character as Mewtwo or something.. no they aren't; and I those additions always bring more for the game than those "standard" and popular characters,.. being laughable doesn't nullify the good that they bring for the game. I wish we could get more characters of this type, actually

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Guys, the discussion is going off-topic. Can we go back to the leak at hand?

 

[CyberWolfBia]

Guys, the discussion is going off-topic. Can we go back to the leak at hand?

anh, I don't think so... we're debating about the potential of the characters of the leak. and what they could bring. nothing really OFF topic. .. but okay. .-.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Sure, why not? All I need to do is find it.

Here you go.

Now all we need is the naysayers to read that and actually try to make a reply. Until then, there's really not much else to discuss. No one is taking it as fact, it's just that we have heavy stock in it.

 

[Deleted member]

Here you go.

Now all we need is the naysayers to read that and actually try to make a reply. Until then, there's really not much else to discuss. No one is taking it as fact, it's just that we have heavy stock in it.

Got it in the OP already, but thanks.

 

[praline]

I still don't believe it. The only thing I believe is the Palutena leak from a while back.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I still don't believe it. The only thing I believe is the Palutena leak from a while back.

Better question then: Do you accept the possibility of it being real?

 

[Deleted member]

Okay.. and why you're assuming that Pac will act exactly as the other characters that "eat" things, like Kirby or Yoshi?.. Did you ever played his games? He probably will have this similarity with other character, and no more... He would be a very interesting mix of characters, a mix of Mario, Kirby and Sonic.. again, if you don't know too much about the character, you should research a bit before talk about him;

--and... excuse me.. 5 game? what 5 games? '-'.. at most, we can agree with Ghostly Adventures not reaching the objective, but.. it's just one,.. what are the other four? lol. ... and still, it's 5 of 80+. :T... and Sonic have over 10 bad games, couting with main line game and SpinOFFs, and then? .. he still same strong icon Sonic The Hedgehog, and got in the roster of Brawl in his worst days... after Sonic '06. ...

and about the concept of joke characters, you trying to make them seem less worth than a "SUPER COOL" character as Mewtwo or something.. no they aren't; and I those additions always bring more for the game than those "standard" and popular characters,.. being laughable doesn't nullify the good that they bring for the game. I wish we could get more characters of this type, actually

Look I don't mind joke chars, but just like 3rd parties it needs to stay low in quantity, I actually love to play as ROB, G&W and I'm looking forward to play as WFT, and I don't mind Pac-Man at all, my problem is that most of his fans uses a cloud as argument, that he would play very unique and that he has a strong history with Nintendo which none of them are truth, now, if you allow me, I want to leave this thread, I hate when people go to the Ridley thread just to say he is a boss and I think I have been doing something very similar here with both Pac-Man and the "leak", so, sorry for being such an as*****

 

[CyberWolfBia]

Look I don't mind joke chars, but just like 3rd parties it needs to stay low in quantity, I actually love to play as ROB, G&W and I'm looking forward to play as WFT, and I don't mind Pac-Man at all, my problem is that most of his fans uses a cloud as argument, that he would play very unique and that he has a strong history with Nintendo which none of them are truth, now, if you allow me, I want to leave this thread, I hate when people go to the Ridley thread just to say he is a boss and I think I have been doing something very similar here with both Pac-Man and the "leak", so, sorry for being such an as*****

You can leave, I'm not holding you... =P

Joke character is still a point of view... you think that the Chorus Kids would be joke, but there's a support thread here for them, and for others individual Rhythm Heaven characters; I'm sure that their presence won't be a joke for them, but a desire realized. And again, these jokes can bring movesets as R.O.B. and Wii Fit Trainer, so please Sakurai, make a game full of them! lol.
3rd party characters, agreed that need to be a low amount, after all, is a Nintendo All-Star fighting game,.. but 3 from a roster with almost 50 characters wouldn't be too much, and even if Snake return, is a low quantity... and well, I believe the "cloud hint" this time (different from the Brawl days XD), BUT, as I said in the Miiverse thread, Pac is pretty guarantee in the game, imo.. with or without leak, clouds or something.

and, please, I recommend Pac-Man World 2, go play. =)

 

[Frostwraith]

This thread is getting derailed.

Next time I have to warn about this, it will be with infractions, something I hope to avoid.

 

[ChunkyBeef]

Better question then: Do you accept the possibility of it being real?

I'm on the fence, myself, about the validity of the leak. The thing that bothers me the most is that this leak shares one chief similarity to the Brawl and Melee leaks: it's disappointing.

Before you go crazy, I'm sure a lot of you people here have been around for the Melee roster reveal, and the Brawl roster reveal. Both were events I was on the internet for, and Brawl's sticks out in my mind the most because of the uproar it caused when it was confirmed that there was nothing else besides what we already knew about.

So honestly, the one factor that leads me to believe this leak is real is that it's disappointing. This is shaping up to be the Melee/Brawl leak equivalent because there's a ton of opposition to it, 'cause people don't like what they see and are disappointed by it. Just like the Melee/Brawl leaks. It's sad, but true.

 

[praline]

Better question then: Do you accept the possibility of it being real?

Nope. I don't think a stupid character like Chorus Men are gonna be playable.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

The only way that I could get truly disappointed with the roster of Smash, if all the new characters are from Mario series, Zelda, newest Pokémons and clones of Fox. =P Not even has something to do with supporting x or y character, ..for me, everything it's diversity, .. I'm not even a Palutena supporter, but if she can bring something new for the game, I'm totally okay.. and Ridley, of course, I turned a supporter, but I'm not even a Metroid fan;

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Nope. I don't think a stupid character like Chorus Men are gonna be playable.

Why? Do you have more evidence asides from the fact that you think they're stupid?

I'm on the fence, myself, about the validity of the leak. The thing that bothers me the most is that this leak shares one chief similarity to the Brawl and Melee leaks: it's disappointing.

Nope, that's something I can understand. I was around for both of those reveals and there was definitely butthurt in the air there too.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Why? Do you have more evidence asides from the fact that you think they're stupid?

I think they are lame and I wouldn't dismiss this leak yet unless they are disconfirmed.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

I accept the possibility of the leak being real.

I hope it's incorrect because it includes Miis and might imply we're getting only 12 newcomers. I dislike Miis because I feel like Smash Bros should have higher standards for fighters than system avatars for apps, regardless of whatever "potential" they have from the "Wii" brand games. The possibility of only 12 newcomers basically means potential villainous newcomers are getting snubbed again. Yeah Brawl added Metaknight and Wolf, but they were anti-heroes rather than the full-fledged villains. Ridley, K. Rool, and hell, even Ghirahim could all be great fighters repping the villainous side of Nintendo, but from the looks of things they might have gotten passed over in favor of fricking Miis and a joke character in Chorus Men.

So I also very much accept the possibility of the leak being incorrect.

 

[Louie G.]

I'm going to ask one more time.
WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE CHORUS MEN SO MUCH?

Even if you do hate them for some strange reason, you shouldn't dismiss a leak for including a "stupid" character, as Wii Fit Trainer is pretty much as "stupid" as you can get. I swear, the people on this thread are ridiculous sometimes.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

I'm going to ask one more time.
WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE CHORUS MEN SO MUCH?

Even if you do hate them for some strange reason, you shouldn't dismiss a leak for including a "stupid" character, as Wii Fit Trainer is pretty much as "stupid" as you can get. I swear, the people on this thread are ridiculous sometimes.

Because they're another off-the-wall pick that isn't a more common request, apparently not even people's first choice for a Rhythm Heaven rep, and not Ridley.

 

[Deleted member]

Here is the source

Protip: It was Capcom websites developers who leaked the pictures early, so Ryce have nothing to do with the leaks but he found the pictures by guessing the websites url with characters' names. However I'm still grateful for that since we don't have to figuring out Lupinko's weird riddles even it's fun to guessing.

And yet as someone who dislikes Shulk, he's singing a different tune about him after the second Sal Romano leak.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/69057152?page=1

I don't know any more about this game than the rest of you. I haven't even attempted to contact Sal Romano since last June.

Don't look into my posts for "evidence" -- I'm not excited about Shulk potentially being playable, but seeing as how I trust Sal Romano and his source, I objectively believe Shulk will be in the game.

I'm going to ask one more time.
WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE CHORUS MEN SO MUCH?

Even if you do hate them for some strange reason, you shouldn't dismiss a leak for including a "stupid" character, as Wii Fit Trainer is pretty much as "stupid" as you can get. I swear, the people on this thread are ridiculous sometimes.

This isn't the thread for this. Do you want the mods to crack down on this thread too?

 

[Louie G.]

Because they're another off-the-wall pick that isn't a more common request, apparently not even people's first choice for a Rhythm Heaven rep, and not Ridley.

Alright, let me explain something.
"Off-the-wall picks" are what makes the roster interesting. If we got all of the popular characters and nothing else, we'd be happy for a while but bored within a few months. At least things like WFT and Chorus Men make things interesting.
Sakurai cares about the fans, but it isn't his responsibility to give everyone what they want. We didn't get all of the popular choices in Brawl; what makes you think Smash 4 will be any different?
And that "not Ridley" comment is icing on the cake. If Sakurai wants to add Ridley he will: Chorus Men aren't getting in the way of that.

 

[Deleted member]

Nope. I don't think a stupid character like Chorus Men are gonna be playable.

"I don't (X character) will be in because I think he's stupid. This means the leak has totally got to be wrong!"

Remember that no one though of Wii Fit Trainer as a legitimate possibility before she was confirmed. Your move.

I accept the possibility of the leak being real.

I hope it's incorrect because it includes Miis and might imply we're getting only 12 newcomers. I dislike Miis because I feel like Smash Bros should have higher standards for fighters than system avatars for apps, regardless of whatever "potential" they have from the "Wii" brand games. The possibility of only 12 newcomers basically means potential villainous newcomers are getting snubbed again. Yeah Brawl added Metaknight and Wolf, but they were anti-heroes rather than the full-fledged villains. Ridley, K. Rool, and hell, even Ghirahim could all be great fighters repping the villainous side of Nintendo, but from the looks of things they might have gotten passed over in favor of fricking Miis and a joke character in Chorus Men.

So I also very much accept the possibility of the leak being incorrect.

To be fair, I don't think this is all we're getting. I'm sure we're getting at least one more character.

 

[Morbi]

Alright, let me explain something.
"Off-the-wall picks" are what makes the roster interesting. If we got all of the popular characters and nothing else, we'd be happy for a while but bored within a few months. At least things like WFT and Chorus Men make things interesting.
Sakurai cares about the fans, but it isn't his responsibility to give everyone what they want. We didn't get all of the popular choices in Brawl; what makes you think Smash 4 will be any different?
And that "not Ridley" comment is icing on the cake. If Sakurai wants to add Ridley he will: Chorus Men aren't getting in the way of that.

What popular choices were we missing in Brawl? I thought that was the reason that everyone asserts that, "we already have the necessaries." I mean, I suppose Ridley and King K. Rool were fairly popular choices then. But other than that, we weren't necessarily missing any popular choices, correct?

Mewtwo doesn't really count, as he was completely and utterly intended and almost finished.

 

[Arcticbanana]

It still cracks me up every time someone says that WFT or villager are guessable. If I honestly told you before E3 that the wii fit series would get ANY representation you wouldn't believe it for a second. This, in smash, honestly.Anyone who says these were easy to guess are deluding themselves.(pictured: obvious smash material)

 

[Gameboi834]

I feel like any worth while discussion in this thread has already been tapped. Does anyone else feel like it should be locked until something relevant happens?