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I do this, based on info from Wikias
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1) Oh sorry, I forget Shulk ^.^'
was not what I meant; ... the reasons for those characters not be in Smash4 are virtually non existent ... What would hold Sakurai to make a good moveset for.. I dunno.. the GameBoy Camera mascot?.. or the Antenna from Satellaview? hm?... and... I mean, what you said about Chrom;... he can't be in the roster 'cause Ike can't be cut? e-e? ...
Vale. I can't find any important reasons for him and for anybody. No more Off-Topic.
Why?
Rhythm + 3 characters = What?
But that's just the thing: it's not your decision who is and isn't a playable character in the game. It's Sakurai's. Simply because you don't think they would work as a character doesn't mean they won't actually be a character.
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stated, but whether you agree with it or not doesn't make it any less valid.
I think there's no more to talk about this leak, we know how can be true and incorrect. We ended up saying "nonsense" (At least I do.).But that's just the thing: it's not your decision who is and isn't a playable character in the game. It's Sakurai's. Simply because you don't think they would work as a character doesn't mean they won't actually be a character.
This goes back to the whole "don't dismiss a leak simply because you can't comprehend it" issue. That's more of a character discussion topic. If you think Sal's leak is invalid for reasons like he got his information incorrect or you know the leaker is lying, that's different, but disputing it because you don't think a particular character could possibly be playable really doesn't hold much ground. Any character, given direction under Sakurai's hand, could work. He could turn the Virtual Boy into a character if he wanted, or the GameBoy Camera, as @
Sal's leak may be false, but many sources deem otherwise. If there were something to disprove the leak, it would be dead already, but since it's the only leak that seems to be holding its ground, it stands true that something about it must be pointing in the right direction, whether the characters listed are popular or not.
and then? 3 characters + rhythm seems pretty innovative and unique for the roster, I can't see this as an impediment; and "powers" or "abilities" can be created, of course, within the concept of the existing character;.. R.O.B. can fight, and.. well, we don't see him do it in real life, isn't it? I would trust more in Sakurai.. he created Captain Falcon as a fighter, after all. lol
yes, yes, I know that even the Gamecube control can be a character.
They dress like Karate Joe from Karateka Man, and fight with punches and kicks, and like Samurai Slicer, and the Dog. They dress like Tram & Poline, and jump. They dress like Farmer and do a big Stomp/ They dress like Space Dancers and do a "Pu-pu-nch" Final Smash: "Together Now" press in rhythm to do a big Scream.
this game I tend to play for the abilty to play as my favorite character, if I was interested in movesets I play street fighter or the thousand other fighter games out there with generic made up fighters.
as long as the characters being discussed is related to the leak it should be allowed, discussing what someone thinks of the roster is the leak is true is on topic.
Excuse the mini-modding, but this thread is about discussing the leak, it's legitimacy, and other topics that relate to it, not about characters or the roster, something that has been explicitly stated multiple times. Let's not have this thread go the way of the rumors and leaks thread, shall we?
the ironic thing is your mini moding with that post, talking about the characters is TALKING ABOUT THE SAL LEAK
I don't find them particularly interesting, myself. If it was based on the lame idea that I think they sucked because they got in over other characters, I would have complained about the Wii Fit Trainer (who I actually find to be an awesome addition).
That's fair. However, think about the franchises Smash Bros. has introduced to us already; the majority of us wouldn't know about Earthbound or Fire Emblem if we didn't get a curve ball rep to show us why their series are interesting. Rhythm Heaven is different in that there's already a handful of games in the U.S. for it, but does it market well to our crowd? I don't know the answer to that, but I will say it's already working. They aren't even confirmed yet, and I've never played a Rhythm Heaven game, but the idea of them being in the game already makes me interested to go out and try it.
It's forty-eight characters (subjected to change) with four cuts.
Shigeru isn't making the game, and Namco isn't getting special tretement says Sakurai. Also for a reason not is we already have 2 3rd Party characters. No way is Pacman at 100%, less so than Palutena, who isn't Pit's final Smash, and was trolled with Pseudo Palutena in the direct. Palutena is 100%, Pacman is at 75%.I do this, based on info from Wikias
Ignoring that you don't seem to know what irony is, listen to the words of the mod.
actually, he meant that Miyamoto made a Pac-Man game (Pac-Man Vs. on GameCube), not he's doing right now. But I agree that Pac-Man isn't 100%, is 90% (as well Palutena),.. and Sakurai saying "not getting special treatment", besides already be belied with the NAMCO items in the game (of course, he wouldn't like to hear a ton of requests of NAMCO characters), not means that Sakurai is against NAMCO characters in the game, he didn't denied the possibility... actually, he seemed very positive with Pac-Man suggestion by the Journalist.
Still, he cannot include Shigeru as he isn't making THIS game at all. And 75% is pretty dang good if you ask me. I suppose not getting special tretment isn't a good example anymore, but 3 3rd Party characters would be abit too much. Could happen, but ehh.
To be honest, if Snake gets cut, I can't see a number lower than 3. We had two 3rd party characters in Brawl, and keeping it at 2 just feels like stagnation.
He can cite that someone influential at Nintendo has Pac-Man as the favorite character, .. and if there is someone really influential at Nintendo, is Miyamoto. XD.. about the inclusion of 3 guest characters from other companies, would hurt Pac-Man a little more if the other two wasn't Mega Man and Sonic,.. whose already has some kind of relation with him, and Mario (actually, all the four characters have already met in some other oportunities, directly or indirectly), .. without count that the perfect match of four mascots from the four main gaming companies is a big opportunity. ... and independent, if we're getting 3 3rd party characters in a roster that potentially can have 46 or 50 characters, is still a very low quantity.
Well, Palutena was massively hinted [well, not massively, but still] in the direct, as he faked her out with the Pseudo Palutena trophy and the new Pit's final smash, while in game Pac Man has nothing big going for him [IN GAME]. Kid Icuaras also is getting alot of attention, so Palutena is like, 5% higher up.
Going against all my lack of faith back in Brawl, when people speculated that the clouds in the subspace Emissary meant something; I do believe in the "Pac-Man cloud" in the Greninja trailer.. is so unbelievable that a cloud could have such a perfect form of his oldschool sprite... and the scene stayed there more than needed. (and NAMCO usually do those things with game trailers, or at least Capcom did with him in SFxTK in Poison's trailer).. and, aside that, the S-Flag and the Galaga bugs are already a big help for him; .. since Rally-X and Galaga are games that are always tied with him; .. not just few sprite cameos as in other NAMCO games, but in fact interacting and participating in his games. I put those hints in the same level of Palutena's teases... actually, when the Direct ended and the press kit was released, I had more sure of his presence.
If I could give you a little star that says "good job, you is sassy" I would. ~*
What happened with the SSE? Did people figure out it existed based off of some screenshot?
you mean, what people speculated? ... well, starting from this scene, released sometime during the Brawl hype, people talked about how Mewtwo, Master Hand and Ridley (I don't remember very well) were in these clouds..
He had a change of heart probably
why not?.. looks silly, (and yeah, pretty silly), but we see devs. doing things like that a lot. and, Pac-Man already passed by the same situation before;
