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Might be cut, it wasn't guaranteed, but yeah, Lucas was in more trouble. If Lucas would be cut, it's essentially Melee again, where Ness beat out Lucas for the spot. History repeating itself isn't too odd. Jigglypuff beat out Mewtwo for the spot in 64 and Brawl, so...
Well, you know the saying..."There's truth to every story"
It's important to think about his other potential games.
Well too bad, it happened in Brawl, unless you're like me and count DK, Yoshi, and Wario as subseries. If you're lenient, Mario has 8 characters already with Wario likely to return. I don't think a 6th Pokemon is entirely out of the question just yet. Plus, 6 generations of Pokemon, 6 Pokemon characters
@BluePsychic already established why that notion is not only arbitrary, but fallacious. However, I would like to include that even operating under the presumption that Mario was intended to be more thoroughly represented, characters are not the only aspect of Smash. Albeit, they might be the most prominent, they are not the only aspect of the game. Therefore, Sakurai can satisfy the sentiment that Mario needs to be represented more than Pokemon through assist trophies, stages, items, etc.
CSS Boxes =/= Character Slots.
Again, piggy-backing off of this notion; even if we were to presume that characters were not to be counted, Pokemon Trainer was not the only character in the CSS box. This means that even if the slots argument was relevant, Smash had 38 characters according to slots. Pokemon had more aesthetic representation in Brawl, so based on precedent, that is likely to happen once more.
I know that. I'm only saying I think that Pokemon Aren't going to have more select boxes than mario.
**39.
No, 38 is correct going off of the character select, as Zero Suit Samus is not on the character select in any form.
This. I know some say that they don't count, but I certainly count them. I consider them as spinoffs, but are a part of the greater Mario universe. Yoshi's games feature Baby Mario, and the Final Boss of Yoshi's Island DS is Bowser. Wario only exists because of Mario. You turn that M upside down and you get a W. I've always counted them as part of Mario, which may play a big factor in why I support 6 Pokemon. W have 8 Mario character in Smash 4 at the moment, 9 when Wario is confirmed.
You mean the leak that shows off Ridley as a stage hazard?Still waiting for the Ridley leak
Never said anything of the sort in my comment just merely stated I'm waiting for a Ridley Sal/gamastu leakYou mean the leak that shows off Ridley as a stage hazard?
I don't see any mods around so I'm just going to say that this thread is for discussing the Gematsu Leak.
Not for discussing who your favorite character is and why you want to see a leak with them in it.
Only theory's and conjecture right now no definitive confirmation on a roster size
I don't remember Sal himself saying that, just Rosalina X. There's thoughts they could be one in the same leak, but... where did Sal say this?
He didn't. That's RosalinaX.
Unless we can prove they're one in the same, I'm not assuming any cuts beyond maybe Lucas, since Sal didn't say any other cuts period. Regardless of the whole likely thing, I'm going to wait to find out.
Oh i got mixed up. sorry.
Someone hold me back.
Someone hold me back.
He fits in just fine with the leak. He's a veteran, not a newcomer.
Pokemon has had six characters in the past. Sakurai filled an open slot with Greninja, which probably would have been filled with Mewtwo if he wasn't in the game already. He is the most popular character worldwide and guess what?
Sakurai ignoring Mewtwo would be plain insensitive to Smash Bros fans.
Sound familiar?
Btw, I read everything you say in Courage's voice.
I'll be a little upset if this is the final roster, and a 3rd Fire Emblem lord got in instead of a much-needed DK newcomer.
It doesn't matter to me whether it's Dixie Kong, K. Rool or even Cranky. I just think that Donkey Kong deserves 3 reps.
This sounds so much like the Brawl leak days, except with Chrom instead of Wolf or R.O.B. I really wish Sal's source would have said something definitive about roster size and cut veterans. Though with his apparent knowledge of the likelihood of DLC, perhaps he isn't comfortable commenting on either of those since they could change post-release.I'll be a little upset if this is the final roster, and a 3rd Fire Emblem lord got in instead of a much-needed DK newcomer.
It doesn't matter to me whether it's Dixie Kong, K. Rool or even Cranky. I just think that Donkey Kong deserves 3 reps.
That could be said about a few other newcomers too. Sakurai most definitely hasn't outright ignored Mewtwo though, he has most likely been on the priority list regardless of whether or not he makes it on launch, and even if he isn't on the roster on launch he's pretty much a lock for DLC, so you'll get him eventually. Same thing can't be said about Ridley or K. Rool who are newcomers that'd have been present on launch if Sakurai wanted them to ever be in.
To be fair Roy was something of a last minute clone addition. Plus I can see why FE Lords are easier to imagine a moveset for than other characters. Not that I like it personally; I would love some more DK presence.
True, I was just realizing that Zelda might, to this day, be a two character franchise if not for that clone batch haha.
If Ganondorf didn't make it in Melee, he would have certainly made it in Brawl (probably not as any sort of clone too).