Matt07
Smash Master
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The Official Rate My Mario thread
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Matt07
Smash Master
Bump, umm if I decided to update this thread (remove month old videos), I'd have no videos left! Anyways this will most likely be my last bump, if it has no activity we can just leave it.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
Meh, if it gets no activity for a while, I suggest just leaving it until someone actually has videos to put up, at which point they can bump it. (AKA, I'm going to bumb it regardless whenever I manage to get a match recorded )
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DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
I should be able to link you guys to some matches from my tourney this weekend.
(Apparantly, Ally is showing up in the Midwest, omghax)
(Apparantly, Ally is showing up in the Midwest, omghax)
Ghostpowder
Smash Rookie
Just uploaded some more (finally). I actually did get better from my older videos. I think it's from using the C-Stick for aerials now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC1gtDG4WMA vs ZSS 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfjUuG2wZRA vs Ike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaMkyL-gcJY vs ZSS 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC1gtDG4WMA vs ZSS 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfjUuG2wZRA vs Ike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaMkyL-gcJY vs ZSS 2
Tektite
Smash Apprentice
Nice matches Ghostpowder. I like that you combine a lot of air attacks and fireballs.
Ghostpowder
Smash Rookie
Thanks, i'm glad to hear that. Since I just missed a tourney because I was sick when these matches happened.
vato_break
Smash Master
vato_break vs Box7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q9OYkXu5Qs
vato_break vs cg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzNUyzS6Ah4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q9OYkXu5Qs
vato_break vs cg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzNUyzS6Ah4
Matt07
Smash Master
Updated. Added vato_break's videos, and removed month old videos.
I completely forget about this thread.
I completely forget about this thread.
vato_break
Smash Master
yeah me too
topiser
Smash Rookie
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Vato it looks like your pretty good and indefinitely much better than me 
You should use your cape,fludd,and fireballs a bit more.
For example when fighting with D3, you could have thrown in a few fire balls here and there and get an extra 30% to makes your life easier. Fireballs also work when they are approaching as if they are close + get hit by 1,you have an open target stunned for a short amount of time ready to get pounded. Fireballs also give you a great way to space yourself .One last thing,when recovering from the stage while above it,throwing a few fireballs could help you quite a bit.
Also I noticed that you didn't really use fludd much. Try to have if full at most times as you never know when they could mess up or be off stage ready to get harassed by water flying at them Also at high percents fludd can save your ***. For example if you have fludd full and you are about to get attacked,use it, run up,and jab for an easy 10-20%. They will probably do a side smash and by the time you get there they will be an open target for a bit. Also when you want to change up your tactics you could purposely charge fludd,wait for them to come,and as your about to get hit,either go left or right,surprising the enemy. After that you can probably hit the opponent with fair,dair, or anything you want. If you use this a lot it will get predictable so only use it on occasion. Lastly, get use to the range fludd pushed you when your in the air. After having it full who the hell would expect a mario to pull out fludd on stage away from the opponent get behind them and whip their *** with a dair or fair? This also cant be used too much but if you learn the range well you can pick where to land and vary it and play mind games. Man what a long paragraph on fludd. I don't know why but its my favourite move mario has
Lastly I noticed you lack a tiny bit of cape on stage. For example a few times the peach knew you were going to fair at him/her and easily made you miss/hit you. Instead of that wait a bit,and then cape. The peach would be an open target while unleashing his/her smash and you can be happy
Well there's my 2 cents from a rookie using mario I just wish D3 didn't have such a good recovery that fludd is hardly useful against Im not saying you should incorporate every little thing I said, but take them to mind as once in a while they could become useful and even to your regular tactics.
You should use your cape,fludd,and fireballs a bit more.
For example when fighting with D3, you could have thrown in a few fire balls here and there and get an extra 30% to makes your life easier. Fireballs also work when they are approaching as if they are close + get hit by 1,you have an open target stunned for a short amount of time ready to get pounded. Fireballs also give you a great way to space yourself .One last thing,when recovering from the stage while above it,throwing a few fireballs could help you quite a bit.
Also I noticed that you didn't really use fludd much. Try to have if full at most times as you never know when they could mess up or be off stage ready to get harassed by water flying at them
Also at high percents fludd can save your ***. For example if you have fludd full and you are about to get attacked,use it, run up,and jab for an easy 10-20%. They will probably do a side smash and by the time you get there they will be an open target for a bit. Also when you want to change up your tactics you could purposely charge fludd,wait for them to come,and as your about to get hit,either go left or right,surprising the enemy. After that you can probably hit the opponent with fair,dair, or anything you want. If you use this a lot it will get predictable so only use it on occasion. Lastly, get use to the range fludd pushed you when your in the air. After having it full who the hell would expect a mario to pull out fludd on stage away from the opponent get behind them and whip their *** with a dair or fair? This also cant be used too much but if you learn the range well you can pick where to land and vary it and play mind games. Man what a long paragraph on fludd. I don't know why but its my favourite move mario has Lastly I noticed you lack a tiny bit of cape on stage. For example a few times the peach knew you were going to fair at him/her and easily made you miss/hit you. Instead of that wait a bit,and then cape. The peach would be an open target while unleashing his/her smash and you can be happy
Well there's my 2 cents from a rookie using mario
I just wish D3 didn't have such a good recovery that fludd is hardly useful against Im not saying you should incorporate every little thing I said, but take them to mind as once in a while they could become useful and even to your regular tactics.
vato_break
Smash Master
eh i only use fludd when i can fidl then punish but yeah thanx for the paragraph on fludd xD
Judge Judy
Smash Lord
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I use the FLUDD a lot for spacing; helps a lot against characters like G&W, Marth, and Wario. FLUDD and fireballs give Mario incredible spacing abilities. FIHL is also a nice bonus since it gives Mario additional setup and defense options. As far as gimping, I find FLUDD's usefulness to really depend on the character but, generally speaking, it's handy to have it fully-charged just in case. Overall, the FLUDD is about abusing its unique properties to overcome many obstacles.
Veggi
Smash Champion
I always thought it was wierd how everyone thinks Mario is a straightforward character. His special moves are the farthest thing from straightforward.
KirinBlaze
Smash Lord
Here's two videos I managed to get for you guys.
Kirin (Mario) vs Topix (Snake) | Battlefield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53jn0cr6KV4
Kirin (Mario) vs ilovekimichixD (Snake) | Smashville
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwKbtQHCVlA
I've been playing waaaay too many Snake lately. I would think the first video is pretty bad on my part, it was my first WiFi match in 2 weeks since I just got my Wii back. D:
Kirin (Mario) vs Topix (Snake) | Battlefield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53jn0cr6KV4
Kirin (Mario) vs ilovekimichixD (Snake) | Smashville
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwKbtQHCVlA
I've been playing waaaay too many Snake lately. I would think the first video is pretty bad on my part, it was my first WiFi match in 2 weeks since I just got my Wii back. D:
I'm very impressed Kirin. You played the first match perfectly.
Only thing I would advise is when you're ahead 3 stocks to 1, that's when you start fireball camping. As in just run away and toss some fire. You do make Snakes look easy, lol. You should also bait spotdodges a little more, that Snake from the first match was shielding half the match. And I didn't see a lot of jabs.
I'd say 92% for that first match. A-, you're excused from class.
2nd match, another amazing first stock. Snakes and Dedede's are usually in a shield position for a long time, so just stay out of that grab range and pressure him. You almost broke it. 2nd stock, I was hoping you'd fast fall and shieldgrab when you say that Nair coming. You also have top notch DI, don't change a thing. Last stock was nice predicting of your part, great matches.
Combo video material right thurr.
Only thing I would advise is when you're ahead 3 stocks to 1, that's when you start fireball camping. As in just run away and toss some fire. You do make Snakes look easy, lol. You should also bait spotdodges a little more, that Snake from the first match was shielding half the match. And I didn't see a lot of jabs.
I'd say 92% for that first match. A-, you're excused from class.
2nd match, another amazing first stock. Snakes and Dedede's are usually in a shield position for a long time, so just stay out of that grab range and pressure him. You almost broke it. 2nd stock, I was hoping you'd fast fall and shieldgrab when you say that Nair coming. You also have top notch DI, don't change a thing. Last stock was nice predicting of your part, great matches.
Combo video material right thurr.
vato_break
Smash Master
wifi is fail kirin
KirinBlaze
Smash Lord
Indeed it is.
Here's two more for you guys against Liquid Gen's AMAZING Bowser.
Kirin (Mario) vs Gen (Bowser)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev777iRmwIc
Kirin (Mario) vs Gen (Bowser)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfj4_lcsshs
topiser
Smash Rookie
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Kirin you seem to be great already. One thing that I think you may want to try is if you kill someone when your both in the 100's %, start fire ball camping. By the time they kill you you can easily get to like 30-50% then try for a few aerials and before you die they can range anywhere from 50-80%. Other than that great job. Wish I was that good
Of topic here, but I love your sig. You... eat Marios?Kirin you seem to be great already. One thing that I think you may want to try is if you kill someone when your both in the 100's %, start fire ball camping. By the time they kill you you can easily get to like 30-50% then try for a few aerials and before you die they can range anywhere from 50-80%. Other than that great job. Wish I was that good
topiser
Smash Rookie
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Maybeh. Lol i rushed it last night and the size was crap so had to fix it up a bit a few minutes ago. Now I got a lovely matching avatar to go with itOf topic here, but I love your sig. You... eat Marios?
I just thought of it for some reason last night and well its funny so why not And thanks for the compliment by the way. Surprised someone would actually notice that fast And yes, I'm an mario eating mario main. If that makes sense
You can adjust the height and just make it wider. Or take out the extra blank space, lol. No problem, it's pretty clever.Maybeh. Lol i rushed it last night and the size was crap so had to fix it up a bit a few minutes ago. Now I got a lovely matching avatar to go with it
And yes, I'm an mario eating mario main. If that makes sense
You also lose points for eating plumbers.
Also, let's take this to the general discussion.
vato_break
Smash Master
BoTastic!
Smash Master
Vato Your Mario is very good. Just a few tips.
Don't walk off stage to spike anyone lower than 60% LOL. Mario's spike is very weak. They will meteor cancel and grab the ledge before you do like the Marth did to you.
looks like you handled his spacing better, but you can make Marth cry by punishing mishaps with up B OOS and FIHL.
Thats all. Your Mario Immpresses me.
Don't walk off stage to spike anyone lower than 60% LOL. Mario's spike is very weak. They will meteor cancel and grab the ledge before you do like the Marth did to you.
looks like you handled his spacing better, but you can make Marth cry by punishing mishaps with up B OOS and FIHL.
Thats all. Your Mario Immpresses me.
Matt07
Smash Master
Vato...sorry it took me so long to reply .
Against Bo your first stock was kinda lulzy. You missed up B punishment a lot, you got punished for your Fireball camping, you weren't aggresive enough. However by second stock you went more aggresively which threw Bo off completely (wow playstyle switch ftw), and pulled off the win. Two f-air spikes in one game, dayum.
Second match against Dedede Cape ftw! I can't really say much on that match, you played really well.
.Against Bo your first stock was kinda lulzy. You missed up B punishment a lot, you got punished for your Fireball camping, you weren't aggresive enough. However by second stock you went more aggresively which threw Bo off completely (wow playstyle switch ftw), and pulled off the win. Two f-air spikes in one game, dayum.
Second match against Dedede Cape ftw! I can't really say much on that match, you played really well.
vato_break
Smash Master
thanx guys i will sonn be best mario on the west coast watch!@...i just need to stop losing to randoms at tourneys xD
A2ZOMG
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Dam you Vato...you're getting more practice than me. I'll never be number one Mario in Socal at this rate. =(
You did liek everything right against that Marth. Everything that I ramble about all day when talking about Mario vs Marth.
You did liek everything right against that Marth. Everything that I ramble about all day when talking about Mario vs Marth.
vato_break
Smash Master
a2 come to my house you homoyour gunna fail so badlyat genisis if all you do is online practice. >.< trust me i know lol
SDC
Smash Lord
nice mario vato, any mario that holds its own and wins against a marth gets props in my book. would have liked to see a few more capes in there, if your able to cape marth it leaves him wide open for an f-smash, but forget about that a well played match, and loved the spikes at the end. good accuracy on those fairs!
vato_break
Smash Master
dude socal marths have preped me so much i only lose to ranked marths now...
Matt07
Smash Master
Big bump.
I'm willing to give this thread another chance and see if it can get 'revived.'
I'm willing to give this thread another chance and see if it can get 'revived.'
KirinBlaze
Smash Lord
Kirin (Mario) vs Will (Donkey Kong) | Final Destination 1
Kirin (Mario) vs Will (G&W) | Battlefield 2
Kirin (Mario) vs Will (G&W) | Final Destination 3
Ok, Matt. You guys can critque these. :D
Kirin (Mario) vs Will (G&W) | Battlefield 2
Kirin (Mario) vs Will (G&W) | Final Destination 3
Ok, Matt. You guys can critque these. :D
Matt07
Smash Master
Updated OP. Added colours to font.
Versus DK:
Well no mistakes here, none that I could find. You went ape **** on him (pun intended xD)
Versus GnW 1
:45 - Lol gimp GnW xD.
1:25 - Wow an u-air kill? Living up to 180% on a GnW is like wtf good.
1:50 - Ouch, really bad time to up B. He was too far away.
3:13 - Oh **** you had the match right there! He would've been dead for sure. Ah well I do that from time to time too.
4:16 - I think you had enough time to pull off a usmash in there.
4:28 - Again, I think another opportunity to land an usmash.
Versus GnW 2
:44 - Wow wtf a gimp!? Could this be a reliable gimp against GnW?
There was a part where your d-air beat his fsmash. :O Does this always work, or is it before he pulls the match out?
Also your spacing was a bit bad during your second stock which lead you to getting owned. But you even'd it out again, which is good.
2:57 - How come when I use usmash his d-air always wins.
3:08 - Nice use of FIHL!
3:40 Audience is cheering for the wrong character.
For both matches: Also when he uses his dthrow you rolled <-- way, then if he did it again you would tech it in spot. Be less predictable on those because he punished you for that. Also, you should've camped him when he is at high percents. If he buckets it, it's a free kill for you. And your forcing him to approach as well, limiting his options.
Edit: Just because I created this thread doesn't mean I'm the only one that has to critique. Anyone else is open to help out too or maybe you have more advice to give to him, or more experience in that match-up. Help out the community guys!
Versus DK:
Well no mistakes here, none that I could find. You went ape **** on him (pun intended xD)
Versus GnW 1
:45 - Lol gimp GnW xD.
1:25 - Wow an u-air kill? Living up to 180% on a GnW is like wtf good.
1:50 - Ouch, really bad time to up B. He was too far away.
3:13 - Oh **** you had the match right there! He would've been dead for sure. Ah well I do that from time to time too.
4:16 - I think you had enough time to pull off a usmash in there.
4:28 - Again, I think another opportunity to land an usmash.
Versus GnW 2
:44 - Wow wtf a gimp!? Could this be a reliable gimp against GnW?
There was a part where your d-air beat his fsmash. :O Does this always work, or is it before he pulls the match out?
Also your spacing was a bit bad during your second stock which lead you to getting owned. But you even'd it out again, which is good.
2:57 - How come when I use usmash his d-air always wins
.3:08 - Nice use of FIHL!
3:40 Audience is cheering for the wrong character.
For both matches: Also when he uses his dthrow you rolled <-- way, then if he did it again you would tech it in spot. Be less predictable on those because he punished you for that. Also, you should've camped him when he is at high percents. If he buckets it, it's a free kill for you. And your forcing him to approach as well, limiting his options.
Edit: Just because I created this thread doesn't mean I'm the only one that has to critique. Anyone else is open to help out too or maybe you have more advice to give to him, or more experience in that match-up. Help out the community guys!
Veggi
Smash Champion
Vs. DK
You played very well. DK's game against Mario is largely based off of stopping your approaches. It would be a good idea to jump torwards him and cape away from him to try to bait a grab or something and then bair him. When jumping towards DK with bairs try doing a pivot fireball, it can really mess him up and it's easy to follow after a pivot fireball. You also didn't use grab attacks when you got a grab, but that may have been because you wanted to suprise him so he couldn't DI up from your backthrow. A short hop dair is also a good idea against DK's shield because he gets shield poked easily.
Vs. G&W
Not much to say, but try to use Up-b OOS for the things that look too hard to punish. You semed pretty pro at shield grabbing so I don't think you need to at many points. At the start of the match you can just shoot a fireball and then wait for the bucket and punish him, then do it again. After that just don't shoot any more while he's desperate for the third fireball. Also, try to uair when you DI out of his turtle.
2nd vs. G&W
I thought he got his up b back if you caped him, doesn't he?
FIHL grab you got on his turtle was nice. You seemed sort of devoted to doing jab>fsmash he countered it with one of his attacks a couple times. Instead of doing fsmash try running backwards and doing bair to keep yourself out of harms way.
Very good Mario though.
You played very well. DK's game against Mario is largely based off of stopping your approaches. It would be a good idea to jump torwards him and cape away from him to try to bait a grab or something and then bair him. When jumping towards DK with bairs try doing a pivot fireball, it can really mess him up and it's easy to follow after a pivot fireball. You also didn't use grab attacks when you got a grab, but that may have been because you wanted to suprise him so he couldn't DI up from your backthrow. A short hop dair is also a good idea against DK's shield because he gets shield poked easily.
Vs. G&W
Not much to say, but try to use Up-b OOS for the things that look too hard to punish. You semed pretty pro at shield grabbing so I don't think you need to at many points. At the start of the match you can just shoot a fireball and then wait for the bucket and punish him, then do it again. After that just don't shoot any more while he's desperate for the third fireball. Also, try to uair when you DI out of his turtle.
2nd vs. G&W
I thought he got his up b back if you caped him, doesn't he?
FIHL grab you got on his turtle was nice. You seemed sort of devoted to doing jab>fsmash he countered it with one of his attacks a couple times. Instead of doing fsmash try running backwards and doing bair to keep yourself out of harms way.
Very good Mario though.
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
lol Veggi, that was the DK i played in friendlies who like totally ***** faster then you **** me XD
Karen (lol) you make Will's DK so mother****ing easy, even though I was hella tired and was friendlies he ***** me in matter of seconds he memorized the matchup in the back of his head O_O You make DK look so easy T.T
Karen (lol) you make Will's DK so mother****ing easy, even though I was hella tired and was friendlies he ***** me in matter of seconds he memorized the matchup in the back of his head O_O You make DK look so easy T.T
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
I should have a video of me getting JV 2-stocked by an Oli up sometime today or tommorrow. It's not the best I've done all weekend (actually I was about to get a MM recorded against Hilt, but that didn't happen. I won that MM though :D) but it'll have to do.
Also, I learned a new trick, when Dairing the opponent's shield, you can toadstool Nair and if they drop their shield they get hit, and you fly from harm's way, I haven't been punished after doing it once! (It also works if they don't drop their shield, they just don't get hit.) But of course if they do get hit by the dair then you should just combo with uair or something.
Also, I learned a new trick, when Dairing the opponent's shield, you can toadstool Nair and if they drop their shield they get hit, and you fly from harm's way, I haven't been punished after doing it once! (It also works if they don't drop their shield, they just don't get hit.) But of course if they do get hit by the dair then you should just combo with uair or something.
Veggi
Smash Champion
Psh, I could run laps around that DK.
@XeroXen
I never tried doing a nair after I dair>footstool. Usually I just jump away because it looks pro. Does nair really work before you go out of range? I should probably try that.
@XeroXen
I never tried doing a nair after I dair>footstool. Usually I just jump away because it looks pro. Does nair really work before you go out of range? I should probably try that.
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
Yep, it works, I found that out in a set vs. ithrowthing's Sonic this weekend.