I recently played a small, very small tourney, and got destroyed. But the one good match was between my friends shiek. And fully analyze the video.
East (Shiek) vs Burly (Marth)
East (Shiek) vs Burly (Marth)
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Now EL is gone, we all have to step it up a bit to keep this board as good as possible.Good job GPEternity (and any new critiquers) and all the veteran critiquers (Rukkiko, 3xSwords)
Stepping it up for Marths :D
Critique: YokipiWould anyone be willing to help me with my Marth? I'll be happy with a full analysis or just a general one, anything to help me improve.
Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7-PeS3YRo
Please turn off or just ignore the sound; I forgot to take it off.
I'm not sure if this is a good video because my friend didn't play that well, and I usually don't win. So it was a rather unusual match. Still, it was the best of the ones that managed to get recorded. I know I'm horrible, but that's why I posted here for help. =P
Critique: Yokipi
Ok when I return I shall do a detailed analysis. But already I saw that your roll excessively. This is bad, because Marth's roll is easily punishable. Next, you have to learn to speed up your game and go review the match-ups. Now that I mention it, your punishing skills are... sub par. You need to DB and grab more. Did you know one grab at high percents on lucas = death? (I'm refering to Grab Release --> Dsmash) another thing is your too... forgivig. You barely edgegaurd, and you don't keep on the prssure. Your Marth is a little bit below beginner, so keep at the matches, read the stickies, and improve.
Well from watching the D3 match i'd simply like to point out that you could have spaced alot better throughout that entire match. You also kept doing this annoying thing where you would jump in, then double jump backwards, and try to close in while landing with a fair to try and fake him out or something. You got punished for that almost every time by getting grabbed. Also, i personally use more nairs when up against a D3 than i do most other characters.These are my two Marth videos, can you give me critiques please. Constructive criticism is much appreciated:
vs DDD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUbwsYyC7nw
vs Pokemon Trainer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5ZByQV3Kg
I watched the first one against D3.These are my two Marth videos, can you give me critiques please. Constructive criticism is much appreciated:
vs DDD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUbwsYyC7nw
vs Pokemon Trainer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5ZByQV3Kg
Thanks a lot for all these tips, i really appreciate it , so i just want to know since i noticed my approaches suck, should i approach with grabs and nairs??I watched the first one against D3.
0:05- You have to make sure you are perfectly spacing your fairs against D3. Or you will get chain grabbed.
0:10- Again, if you are going to hit D3's shield with a fair you absolutely have to space it well.
0:15- You randomly fsmashed, you got punished for it. Only use fsmash when you know it will hit or you yourself are punishing. You fsmash again a few seconds after this, you can't be doing that.
0:31- You have a guaranteed tipper fsmash after the second fthrow, just a heads up.
0:39- Usmash or counter when he falls on you during his recovery. What you did wasn't necessarily bad, but you had some better options.
0:42- Use DB to punish, not as an approach.
0:48- Gordo is gay, but you could have airdodged it. Be weary and keep your eyes peeled, even if its just a regualar waddle dee you cant afford to be taking damage in this game.
1:01- Nice spacing and nice kill.
1:05- It'd be stupid and redundant for me to keep saying this so I'll make it the last time. Space your fairs better or you'll get CGed.
1:34- Avoid using DDB4 (Down Dancing Blade, 4th series) as it is highly punishable and easy to DI out of.
2:04- You gotta know how long that DA hitbox stays out, you shouldnt be getting hit by that.
2:37- Avoid him when he still has invincibility
2:44- Usmash instead
3:01- Finish your DBs when they hit, just take the damage and don't try anything gimmicky.
3:33- Learn your options when your opponent is above you like that, bait an airdodge and punish.
4:43- Mix up your recovery, it seems like you always recover the same way.
5:01- Gotta airdodge or counter in that situation when you know you will die if you get hit.
Overall, I like your Marth. You're doing pretty good so far. Your biggest problems are spacing and occasionally move choice. You also have some trouble with recovery so look at all your optoins and try to mix it up. Try using a lot of nair against D3, it works wonders. I understand that this matchup is really hard, but you can make it easier for yourself if you fix these mistakes.
Umm if that's a Filefront download (I don't remember them allowing streams on their site) then would you mind uploading it to Youtube or so?I'd like you to check the following video. http://files.filefront.com/SinoKirby+vs+JumpmanMarth/;13379663;/fileinfo.html
I know I made some mistakes, but I'd appreciate some more general tips. My style is really defensive and flawed. So thanks in advance. By the way, this was a friendly and I just started playing Marth.
Well, it's probably not a great idea to always do the same thing. I watched the first vid (loading the second as I type), and you always approached with a full hop to double jump to fair. It was really predictable, and every time you did it, you were CG'd, as was mentioned above. Fair isn't necessarily a bad approach, but try to avoid using all of your jumps first. Running in to grab is a good thing to mix in, especially if you've conditioned them to shield and punish. Nair is good too. Just mix it up, and never do the same thing over and over again. Also, don't do dash attack unless you are completely sure it will hit, because otherwise, you will be shielded and punished.Thanks a lot for all these tips, i really appreciate it , so i just want to know since i noticed my approaches suck, should i approach with grabs and nairs??
Anyone? By the way, this is a stream.I'd like you to check the following video. http://files.filefront.com/SinoKirby+vs+JumpmanMarth/;13379663;/fileinfo.html
I know I made some mistakes, but I'd appreciate some more general tips. My style is really defensive and flawed. So thanks in advance. By the way, this was a friendly and I just started playing Marth.
I understand, yeah i think i know what to do for next time haha but dont get all entirely sad atleast i beat this guy with my fox (secondary) Vickey (Fox) vs Magik (Pokemon Trainer)Well, it's probably not a great idea to always do the same thing. I watched the first vid (loading the second as I type), and you always approached with a full hop to double jump to fair. It was really predictable, and every time you did it, you were CG'd, as was mentioned above. Fair isn't necessarily a bad approach, but try to avoid using all of your jumps first. Running in to grab is a good thing to mix in, especially if you've conditioned them to shield and punish. Nair is good too. Just mix it up, and never do the same thing over and over again. Also, don't do dash attack unless you are completely sure it will hit, because otherwise, you will be shielded and punished.
I also noticed in that vid that you used your double jump very early when recovering a lot. I recommend holding on to it if you don't need to use it, since it gives you more options to get past Dedede's off-stage options (and others too).
Okay, now I'm on the PT vid. At around 0:38-0:40, you recover and land right next to Ivy as it upsmashes. You weren't hit, but it still seems risky to land right there. At around 1:20, you counter in midair, and then get edgehogged. Unless you are positive the counter will hit, don't do it. DB makes for a good stalling move if they try to edge hog you, and could have saved you here, I think. I liked the Upsmash at 2:23. Didn't expect it. You're getting hit by Rock Smash a lot too; watch out. Towards the end, you seem to space your fairs better than you were in the Dedede vid. Too bad about the end, though I think DB would have saved you again. Not too bad at all, but there's definitely room for improvement.
Critique: AlMoStLeGeNdArYhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7neHl0ta1E
I found this vid on you tube I'm OBV marth. Feedback would be nice. Thanks in advanced
I don't really get the spacing thing. I know i'm supposed to hit with the tip of my sword however, I don't want to right. @ 2: 01 I didn't want what happened @ 2:11 to happen. Or if I attempt a Dair basically me killing my self so I don't even try. I could of sworn he was facing the other way with the punch. I fail @brawl =/.Critique: AlMoStLeGeNdArY
0:22 - I'm guessing you got Wi-Fi gayed, but two whiffed jabs = punishment.
0:31 - Ok your just flailing around, getting in lucky hits. Your spacing is really bad right now, your body is landing where the tip should be. Lucky you don't get punished.
0:44 - Umm, airdodge? Evade??? **** jumping.
0:48 - Nice SD, I guess a button slip.
1:12 - A DB would've sent him further and did more damage, Learn2punish.
1:15 - You've rolled behind him, ok. You have the advantage, and you whiff it to the opposite direction? Then you whiff another one, and you get owned.
1:19 - Refer to 0:44.
1:24 - Your getting way to reckless dude. Once again, your spacing is way off, and you get lucky.
1:39 - A Uair would've worked wonders here. But you just... let him stay on top of you.
2:01 - He returns WAY to comfortably and easily. Pressure him offstage, it *****. You then proceed to keep rolling backwards, giving him stage control. That's bad.
2:11 - Dude -_-
2:35 - Dudddeeeee -_- You roll right into a warlock punch, a WARLOCK PUNCH. End game.
Man that was... bad. Your roll and run away WAY too much. It should be illegal! This cause a lot of punishing and loss of stocks. Next, i'm sorry to say, maybe it was the Wi-Fi, but, oyur spacing I was atrocious. Your body was where your sword should connect, and you literally landed in vey unsafe positions. This led too..... jumping into the ****! man you got punished bad. You really need to work on spacing and acing yourself. This will save your *** the most. Finally, you are a typical case of FSS, commonly known as the FSmash Syndrome. You probably whiffed over 10 this match, and this also caused your punishment when you were trying to punish. Fsmash is not Marth universal punishing tool, it's DB. Good luck~