The Official Geno Thread

[Machspeed]

I think his chances are fair... at least I think he's the most valid candidate from SE at this point for a game of this caliber. He has his fighting moves already pretty much laid out, his SSE story would be a breeze, fans want him, he'd fit snug into the Mario world; and with the possible deconfirmation () of Megaman, I think he's still a fighting contender.

 

[Cless]

Geno has no quantifiable chances. You can't make numbers up based on something like that.

 

[RegalBuster]

It's quite obvious his chances are 50-50...though a character like Krystal or ridley who people really want in have like an 85-15 chance of getting in

 

[Machspeed]

Are you suggesting Geno isn't really wanted?

 

[Cless]

I'm suggesting that you can't make numbers off of it, and that to do so is foolish. That's for any character.

 

[Machspeed]

I'm suggesting that you can't make numbers off of it, and that to do so is foolish. That's for any character.

That's cool and all, but I wasn't speaking to you. I was talking to Regal.

 

[Azariel]

I have to wonder why you would just pull random numbers out of no where. I mean just because i can make up the fact that 1/3 gamers play smash and 1/5 of them think geno has no chance in brawl doesn't mean that if i go outside and punch a random stranger in the face that there was a 1/15 chance i just knocked some sense into you.

 

[RegalBuster]

no i'm saying because even though he's majorly wanted if Square doesn't want him in brawl he won't be that's why it's 50-50 meaning either he's playable or not in at all...but for Krystal or ridley who are 1st party and majorly wanted they have 85-15 because there is no boundaries to cross to get them in brawl. Geno is my second most wanted character for brawl.

 

[Machspeed]

I say it's a perfect opportunity for Square-Enix.

If any time is the time to get Geno back into the world of Mario and gaming, now is the perfect chance. Brawl would advertise the character to no end, and get hype pumped up if he released in another game.

They could get even more money annually if they begin to sell games with another character that people like; it's just smart business sense in my eyes.

 

[RegalBuster]

Square Enix should sell Geno and Mellow to nintendo so they can be in Mario Parties and Mario Karts, etc.

 

[Cless]

Yeah, it's not like Nintendo can't make RPGs without them. We could finally get a Mario RPG 2 if Squeenix did that.

 

[Machspeed]

I hope they're in another RPG before they get into all the sports and spinoff games. >_>

 

[jimmysilverrims]

Tell you guys what, I literally will bet twenty dollars to give Psychey over there if Geno gets in, but if Geno doesn't get in, the title of this thread becomes "The Official We Were Wrong Geno Thread".

I'm not kidding, nor am I trying to make a point. I'm making a bet, a bet that I will fully uphold.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Tell you guys what, I literally will bet twenty dollars to give Psychey over there if Geno gets in, but if Geno doesn't get in, the title of this thread becomes "The Official We Were Wrong Geno Thread".

I'm not kidding, nor am I trying to make a point. I'm making a bet, a bet that I will fully uphold.

I'll support whatever I want to based on faith alone that Geno will be in Brawl

I don't care for your bets

 

[blayde_axel]

Yeah, it's not like Nintendo can't make RPGs without them. We could finally get a Mario RPG 2 if Squeenix did that.

Did you hear about the rumor or Super Mario RPG DS, too?

 

[AmericanGTS]

Tell you guys what, I literally will bet twenty dollars to give Psychey over there if Geno gets in, but if Geno doesn't get in, the title of this thread becomes "The Official We Were Wrong Geno Thread".

I'm not kidding, nor am I trying to make a point. I'm making a bet, a bet that I will fully uphold.

You believe in an argument which you can provide no evidence to aid your reasoning? Have you tricked yourself into thinking that your points.. I mean opinions.. are facts? There is nothing you can do or say to prove Geno's chances are hindered unless you provide evidence.. which you haven't. So what do you want us to say?

 

[Cless]

If Geno does or doesn't get in, this thread is gonna get closed when the time comes anyway.

 

[RegalBuster]

I hope they're in another RPG before they get into all the sports and spinoff games. >_>

Well i heard there making a sequal to Super Mario RPG which will be like Kingdom Hearts but replace Disney characters with Mario characters.

 

[Machspeed]

Did you hear about the rumor or Super Mario RPG DS, too?

Oh? Where did you hear this?

Spoiler

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR ELEVEN YEARS, THANK THE HEAVENS THEY'RE DOING A SEQUEL

 

[jimmysilverrims]

I'll support whatever I want to based on faith alone that Geno will be in Brawl

I don't care for your bets

Okay, you think Geno wil be in Brawl, but won't back it up by facts, only faith, and won't do a simple bet when you would have nothing but respect to lose and currency to gain.

 

[Cless]

How are you going to give people $20 anyway.

 

[blayde_axel]

Oh? Where did you hear this?

Spoiler

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR ELEVEN YEARS, THANK THE HEAVENS THEY'RE DOING A SEQUEL

Keep in mind this is only a rumor...

http://www.smrpglegacy.com/

 

[Machspeed]

Okay, you think Geno wil be in Brawl, but won't back it up by facts, only faith, and won't do a simple bet when you would have nothing but respect to lose and currency to gain.

Really, none of us could possibly coin up Geno's chances, because the ugly truth of the matter is, there are virtually no types of evidence in this situation.

Nobody.

Not even Chuck Norris could tell you his chances.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Okay, you think Geno wil be in Brawl, but won't back it up by facts, only faith, and won't do a simple bet when you would have nothing but respect to lose and currency to gain.

I'll prove myself enough when he is confirmed. I need nothing more from all of this

 

[Mad555]

Any one have different ideas for Geno after watching the Subspace Emissary Movie preview (best video update of all). because I think seeing how Bowser & Wario are villians with trophy guns then I guess we cant expect King DeDeDe to be Geno's partner.

 

[jimmysilverrims]

You believe in an argument which you can provide no evidence to aid your reasoning? Have you tricked yourself into thinking that your points.. I mean opinions.. are facts? There is nothing you can do or say to prove Geno's chances are hindered unless you provide evidence.. which you haven't. So what do you want us to say?

This actually made me mad, and I genuinely don't get mad at comments. IF there's one thing I try to get out, it's the fact that people should use facts and not opinion. Listen:

Geno's a retro character, meaning that only a fraction of the world knows the character well, and he was only in one game, meaning that he's even less well known. That, and as the game is retro, there will be no profit off of the games sales for eith Square or Nintendo, as the game has stopped being made. Top that off with the fact that this is third party, meaning that no matter ho much Sakurai wants Geno to get in, Square can say no. Why would Square say no? Why, because Geno means noting to them anymore. Square only had Geno in one game, and besides, why would they say yes to Geno when they could rather say a more profitable character like Cloud, so that they could make money off of their actually in sale games, like FF? The third party slot is insanely limited, at most being three, and believe me, why would ANYONE chose this random, unkown character that will cost more money then it would gain when you could have a character, like Megaman, Bomberman, or Cloud instead that would make an exponentially greater fortune for Nintendo.

'Nuff said.

 

[Machspeed]

With the randomness of SSE so far (Meta-Knight and Ice Climbers, for example), watch him be paired up with Snake or something completely from what you expected.

 

[vesperview]

Geno's a retro character, meaning that only a fraction of the world knows the character well, and he was only in one game, meaning that he's even less well known.

Ice Climbers say hi!

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

This actually made me mad, and I genuinely don't get mad at comments. IF there's one thing I try to get out, it's the fact that people should use facts and not opinion. Listen:

Geno's a retro character, meaning that only a fraction of the world knows the character well, and he was only in one game, meaning that he's even less well known. That, and as the game is retro, there will be no profit off of the games sales for eith Square or Nintendo, as the game has stopped being made. Top that off with the fact that this is third party, meaning that no matter ho much Sakurai wants Geno to get in, Square can say no. Why would Square say no? Why, because Geno means noting to them anymore. Square only had Geno in one game, and besides, why would they say yes to Geno when they could rather say a more profitable character like Cloud, so that they could make money off of their actually in sale games, like FF? The third party slot is insanely limited, at most being three, and believe me, why would ANYONE chose this random, unkown character that will cost more money then it would gain when you could have a character, like Megaman, Bomberman, or Cloud instead that would make an exponentially greater fortune for Nintendo.

'Nuff said.

I shouldn't have to need facts for supporting someone.

What we know of chances are solely on the polls and the Square thing...NOTHING else

 

[DarkSpidey13]

If you look at the obstacles that prevent Geno from coming in you can see that his chances are very, very slim.

I mean, look at it this way: There are a fraction of secondary characters in Brawl, heck, I'll say 1/3. There's an even smaller amount of secondary characters that are retro In fact, there are none, but hey, it's not too straining on the imagination, so I'll say that it's a 1/6 chance for a character to be both a retro and a secondary character. Then there's the chance that there's a retro character that's a secondary character that's only been in one game. Now that's pretty slim, but it could happen, I suppose, so let's devide our fraction into a third, meaning now we have 1/18. Then the chance that that secondary, retro character that was only in one game is third party, and seeing as there will only be (most likely) three (at most) third party characters out of a rough estimate of a fourty character roster. Let's see, that's 3/40 of 1/18, so that's 0.00416... and then we factor in populairity, so that's taking off a third of that so now it's 0.0027... but seeing as it's on the poll, I'll ignore that. So now, we have Geno, who apparently has a 0.4 % chance. Mind you, this is a rough estimate, as this may be over or under a more accurate number.

So, Geno mathematically, would have an 0.4% chance, and everyone thinks that this is high? The facts do not lie, and all these numbers are smply based on facts drawn from simple common knowledge, and I sincerely hope that you people take my words to serious heart.

as a person with an Associates Degree in Mathematics, i am qualified to tell you that you have no idea what you're talking about.

****, that feels good.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

There are a way too many unknown variables to know ANYONE's chances so your stupid mathematical formula is flawed.

Stop trying to pretend you know what your talking about

you should take your own advice sometimes.

 

[Machspeed]

Ice Climbers say hi!

Don't forget Pit.

 

[jimmysilverrims]

Ice Climbers say hi!

Nintendo can do that random, unknown character because hey own the character it won't cause them to lose or gain any money, while Geno would cause them to only lose money.

'Nuff said.

 

[vesperview]

Don't forget Pit.

I didn't but he said one game and Pit has two lol!

 

[Mad555]

Don't forget Pit.

And Game & Watch & Dr. Mario say hello to

 

[Machspeed]

I say it's a perfect opportunity for Square-Enix.

If any time is the time to get Geno back into the world of Mario and gaming, now is the perfect chance. Brawl would advertise the character to no end, and get hype pumped up if he released in another game.

They could get even more money annually if they begin to sell games with another character that otherwise doesn't bring in profit; it's just smart business sense in my eyes.

Said that a couple pages back, don't know if you read it.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

And Game & Watch & Dr. Mario say hello to

doesnt game & watch have his own series of games, and i think your right about doc, but he was only a clone.

 

[Mad555]

doesnt game & watch have his own series of games, and i think your right about doc, but he was only a clone.

He is still retro though.

 

[jimmysilverrims]

I'll prove myself enough when he is confirmed. I need nothing more from all of this

Ah, looks like someones getting emotional, and is letting his emotions slur in with his "facts" because even I will never say that Geno is or isn't getting in, only that is chances are remakably low.

 

[AmericanGTS]

This actually made me mad, and I genuinely don't get mad at comments. IF there's one thing I try to get out, it's the fact that people should use facts and not opinion. Listen:

Geno's a retro character, meaning that only a fraction of the world knows the character well, and he was only in one game, meaning that he's even less well known. That, and as the game is retro, there will be no profit off of the games sales for eith Square or Nintendo, as the game has stopped being made. Top that off with the fact that this is third party, meaning that no matter ho much Sakurai wants Geno to get in, Square can say no. Why would Square say no? Why, because Geno means noting to them anymore. Square only had Geno in one game, and besides, why would they say yes to Geno when they could rather say a more profitable character like Cloud, so that they could make money off of their actually in sale games, like FF? The third party slot is insanely limited, at most being three, and believe me, why would ANYONE chose this random, unkown character that will cost more money then it would gain when you could have a character, like Megaman, Bomberman, or Cloud instead that would make an exponentially greater fortune for Nintendo.

'Nuff said.

You need to wake up and realize that your opinions aren't changing anything. If you don't think he's popular, that is simply your problem. Can you provide us with evidence or proof that Geno actually wasn't a popular choice? Does it actually matter if he is well known? Also, why the hell would Square say no? Nintendo can say no to Cloud too you know. This game is going to sell INCREDIBLY well without the help of Cloud or Crono. For all I care they can just drop Square Enix entirely (forgive me Geno!). If Square Enix wants to be a hassle and try to sucker Nintendo into purchasing the rights to a character that simply isn't needed then let Nintendo make the sorry mistake. Cloud and all his little Final Fantasy buddies along with other Square Enix veterans could never represent a Nintendo game better than Geno. Square should feel honored if Nintendo wants to add one of their characters because they will make money. It isn't economically sound however to pay them 100k for a character that won't sell the game further than what it already will. The license to Geno however would most likely be cheap (free?) simply because he is a Mario character. We'll wait and see though. Until then, why don't you try providing us with facts other than the lame "1 game" argument.