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The Official Geno Thread

Pieman0920

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Geno's chances and disadvantages
Before this discussion carries on any longer, I want to clarify something: Geno does not have a 100% chance of being in this game and those that believe he does are just too swept up in the moment.

As the situation stands, he will either be playable or he won't show up at all. Why? Because he's technically third party and there'd be no point in just having him as an AT especially when 1. the Mario franchise already has two, 2. there has already been 18 ATs confirmed and 7 of the already confirmed represented franchises like Zelda and DK don't even have one yet, 3. how there are tons of smaller franchises that Nintendo hasn't yet tapped into yet.
Now, here's what Geno has going for him:
1. The 5 mentions in Sakurai's journal
2. SMRPG being the most requested VC game in both North America and Japan since it was basically first announced.
3. SMRPG's director now working for Nintendo as the founder of the second party, Alpha Dream. (The man who is presumed responsible for getting Geno into Mario and Luigi: Super Star Saga)
4. Pretty much a moveset given to the developers on a silver platter.
5. His appearance in both the 2001 Melee poll and the 2006 Brawl poll.
6. Nintendo offically classifying him as a Mario character rather then third party. (Geno only has appeared in Mario games)
7. Nintendo having the upper hand when it comes to Geno's legal situation and thus making him much easier to obtain then other third party characters.
8. Him being the only original Mario RPG character besides Fawful, Bow and Parakarry to appear in more then one game and play some sort of role.
9. Yoko Shimomura (the composer who did the music for both SMRPG and M&L:SS) being one of the composers for Brawl.
10. Nintendo and Square Enix being on good terms especially when you consider they've made two joint projects in the past year and there are a ton of SE games on the way for the DS and Wii.

Here's what Geno has going against him:
1. Square Enix still having the power to say no if Nintendo refuses whatever "rental agreement" SE might establish.
2. The chance that Nintendo/Sakurai won't even bother asking Square Enix in the first place.
3. His overall obscurity. (Which Sakurai likes)
That's basically the situation laid out in black and white. Granted, 2 doesn't seem likely since the situation is basically win-win for both companies (Nintendo gets to use a wanted character and SE makes some money for a character that's basically worthless to them) and 3 really isn't a factor considering how the likes of the Ice Climbers and Mr. Game and Watch have come back from the "dead." Number one is the biggest concern and if Geno was completely first party, I'd probably bump his chances to 85%. The ultimateum of whether or not Square Enix will agree to the deal is what ultimately will decide if Geno makes it in or not. Granted, this is the situation with all third party characters but it should be noted despite Geno's legal situation being somewhat different.
So there you have it. I think with all this said, I think our reasons for supporting this character and beliefs that he has a decent chance are well founded and don't dive into sheer fanboyism like some people suggest.
Eww....loads of these reasons are no good. And it doesn't really answer my question. o_o

(I do agree though that he'd show up as playable or not at all. Going through the trouble to make him a AT seems like a waste)

Anyways~

1. Doesn't really matter unless we know how Sakurai responds.
2. Source for this? And if its so requested, why isn't it out yet? And even if it is, we already have three characters from it.
3. Again, we already have three characters from SMRPG. And does this guy have any say in Brawl at all?
4. Everyone can have a moveset really, so this is moot. Heck, it's not even a pro, it's more of a requirment that all the characters have to meet for consideration.
5. Like loads of other characters. And if he didn't make it in back then, what's changed now?
6. And because of this, he has to complete with much more worthy Mario characters, who have done a lot more than him, and have made more apperances. This isn't a pro what so ever.
7. How so? He's a Square character. Heck, if you get Square to agree to send in a character, then why not someone that people actually care about? That's the point of a third party character.
8. One, all of the partners from PM1 and 2 have shown up at least twice. Two, Geno's second apperance wasn't a "role" really at all. Three, it's "Mario" RPG. We have Mario. We also have Bowser and Peach, who are both characters who showed up in all of the PM and M&L games. (Did I forget to mention Luigi is also likely?)
9. And he's listed under Kingdom Hearts. Now I know the Sonic guy was also not listed under Sonic, but you have to remember, that half of the musicians don't even represent the games they worked on in the past. This is a complete assumption if you think its a pro.
10. So why not add in Cloud? Everyone knows him. He's popular and succesful. Unlike Geno.

The flaws in comparison are clearly biased, but that makes sense, since it is written by you guys. Heck, why would Sakurai like a third party character that's obscure? Maybe a first or second party one, but it's a complete waste to get a 3rd party one that no one has heared about. =/
 

Enigma14

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TBH Fatman wrote that not me

"Eww....loads of these reasons are no good. And it doesn't really answer my question. o_o"

Everyone has a bias also what was ur question again?

(I do agree though that he'd show up as playable or not at all. Going through the trouble to make him a AT seems like a waste)

True.

Anyways~

1. Doesn't really matter unless we know how Sakurai responds.

I got those 5 journal entries on me, whant 2 seem them? He did respond to them.

2. Source for this? And if its so requested, why isn't it out yet? And even if it is, we already have three characters from it.

So you're saying we should stop at Luigi just becase 2 plumbers, a turle king and a princess that might be human satisfy u for the largest franchise?

3. Again, we already have three characters from SMRPG. And does this guy have any say in Brawl at all? No, unless hes helping making the game.


5. Like loads of other characters. And if he didn't make it in back then, what's changed now?

Probably tying with 4 others characters, 3 which made it in.

6. And because of this, he has to complete with much more worthy Mario characters, who have done a lot more than him, and have made more apperances. This isn't a pro what so ever.

viarables can't compare, and you can't define worthy or more because of roles. Geno is worthy in his game, PM is worthy in his games, Jr. is worthy of a villian in games he appears in. If they were to appear in a game together then u could compare.

7. How so? He's a Square character. Heck, if you get Square to agree to send in a character, then why not someone that people actually care about? That's the point of a third party character.

People care about Geno (welcome to the Geno thread pieman) Notice he only can be used n the context of MArio games?

8. One, all of the partners from PM1 and 2 have shown up at least twice. Two, Geno's second apperance wasn't a "role" really at all. Three, it's "Mario" RPG. We have Mario. We also have Bowser and Peach, who are both characters who showed up in all of the PM and M&L games. (Did I forget to mention Luigi is also likely?)

2 from PM, 1 from SMRPG, 1 from bros. See point 2.

9. And he's listed under Kingdom Hearts. Now I know the Sonic guy was also not listed under Sonic, but you have to remember, that half of the musicians don't even represent the games they worked on in the past. This is a complete assumption if you think its a pro.

true.

10. So why not add in Cloud? Everyone knows him. He's popular and succesful. Unlike Geno.

true as well but Cloud wasn't considered (Until people thought of Geno) was he?

The flaws in comparison are clearly biased, but that makes sense, since it is written by you guys.

same could be said about a guy who hates a puppet when we have dinos and psychics and guys in spandex and a blond boy who is always named the same thing running around.

Heck, why would Sakurai like a third party character that's obscure?

This is a true fact that Sakurai likes obscure, go read the sticked topic on gamefaqs.

Maybe a first or second party one, but it's a complete waste to get a 3rd party one that no one has heared about. =/

If no one has heard about him, then how do we know him?
 

Danbearking0

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not to be a geno hater but...
This game is for Nintendo ALLSTARS, not every charecter that you see in a video game. sure melee had some iffy charecters, but the origenal point of this game is to have the best, most original charecter from nintendo. That is what i didnt like about melee; face the facts can you really look at me with a straight face and tell me the "Geno" a charecter that appeared in 2 third party games that had mario in it qualifys as a nintendo allstar?

i was reading the first post of this thread and your aguments are just.... well bad. see the first argument was that "no one heard of him" well i played the mario rpg, great game, and honestly didnt remeber him, i would have never even thought of him ppl hadnt had their "Geno 4 brawl" sigs and i bet some of you havent heard of him before, am eye -> (thats am i right btw) next argument too many mario reps, hes not a mario rep imo hes a square rep (isn't that final fantasy company?)
your agument for hes only in 2 games, can't really say much there because my #1 pick for brawl is Captin Olimar and he's in 2 games (but those were really memorable games by that i mean if you go in the future in 20 years a person asks about super mario rpg and pikmen which game would the remember more?)
now for the 3rd party spot argument, i think sakuri's biggest mistake was revieling sonic too early giving people gumdrop fantastys and lolypop dreams, imo ppl want too many 3rd party charecters but fact is charecters like "pacman"(lolroflrofllolol at all the ppl that think he's gonna be in brawl) arn't really nintendo Alstars they should make their own allstar game like the allstar rare game Diddy Kong Racing

final statement, how bout i make an RPG game with mario and Master Chief from halo, then he'll be in brawl!!!!

ps. don't flame me because i speak the truth. If i hurt your feelings then go cry about it.
pss. i'm not a Geno hater i'm more like a Geno disliker
psss. he would be kinda kool in brawl (love Geno whirl :p 9999 dmg ftw)
 

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TBH Fatman wrote that not me

"Eww....loads of these reasons are no good. And it doesn't really answer my question. o_o"

Everyone has a bias also what was ur question again?

(I do agree though that he'd show up as playable or not at all. Going through the trouble to make him a AT seems like a waste)

True.

Anyways~

1. Doesn't really matter unless we know how Sakurai responds.

I got those 5 journal entries on me, whant 2 seem them? He did respond to them.

2. Source for this? And if its so requested, why isn't it out yet? And even if it is, we already have three characters from it.

So you're saying we should stop at Luigi just becase 2 plumbers, a turle king and a princess that might be human satisfy u for the largest franchise?

3. Again, we already have three characters from SMRPG. And does this guy have any say in Brawl at all? No, unless hes helping making the game.


5. Like loads of other characters. And if he didn't make it in back then, what's changed now?

Probably tying with 4 others characters, 3 which made it in.

6. And because of this, he has to complete with much more worthy Mario characters, who have done a lot more than him, and have made more apperances. This isn't a pro what so ever.

viarables can't compare, and you can't define worthy or more because of roles. Geno is worthy in his game, PM is worthy in his games, Jr. is worthy of a villian in games he appears in. If they were to appear in a game together then u could compare.

7. How so? He's a Square character. Heck, if you get Square to agree to send in a character, then why not someone that people actually care about? That's the point of a third party character.

People care about Geno (welcome to the Geno thread pieman) Notice he only can be used n the context of MArio games?

8. One, all of the partners from PM1 and 2 have shown up at least twice. Two, Geno's second apperance wasn't a "role" really at all. Three, it's "Mario" RPG. We have Mario. We also have Bowser and Peach, who are both characters who showed up in all of the PM and M&L games. (Did I forget to mention Luigi is also likely?)

2 from PM, 1 from SMRPG, 1 from bros. See point 2.

9. And he's listed under Kingdom Hearts. Now I know the Sonic guy was also not listed under Sonic, but you have to remember, that half of the musicians don't even represent the games they worked on in the past. This is a complete assumption if you think its a pro.

true.

10. So why not add in Cloud? Everyone knows him. He's popular and succesful. Unlike Geno.

true as well but Cloud wasn't considered (Until people thought of Geno) was he?

The flaws in comparison are clearly biased, but that makes sense, since it is written by you guys.

same could be said about a guy who hates a puppet when we have dinos and psychics and guys in spandex and a blond boy who is always named the same thing running around.

Heck, why would Sakurai like a third party character that's obscure?

This is a true fact that Sakurai likes obscure, go read the sticked topic on gamefaqs.

Maybe a first or second party one, but it's a complete waste to get a 3rd party one that no one has heared about. =/

If no one has heard about him, then how do we know him?
The question was about what makes Geno's role more important than Mario in that game. And while everyone has bias, this one has way to much.

1. Sure, or you could just tell me what he said pertaining to Geno.

2. Huh? Luigi wasn't in SMRPG. All I'm saying is if you want representation from SMRPG, you already have three representatives. Then you can go on to the other parts of the Mario franchise.

3. So you don't actually know if this person is relivant at all?

5. Still nothing has changed. And again, that wasn't a poll. If it was, then you'd see Sonic at the top, since Sakurai said he was the most requested. =/

6. No, it's a overall thing. Geno was outclassed in his own game, and never showed up again after that. Paper Mario and Bowser Jr have shown up multiple times though. Heck, characters like Birdo and Waluigi have shown up more times than Geno, and in playable roles. Geno isn't as worthey as them, he's about as worthey as Twink from PM.

7. This thread isn't nearly enough, and you should know that. And even if he is used in the context of a Mario character, he's still owned by SE, a company that has much better characters to add. Want a historically relivant SE character? Get a Black Mage. Want a popular character everyone knows about? Get Cloud. Want some nobody who had one game and one cameo? Get Geno. Heck, he's not even classic like the other obscure characters. (Then again, the ICs were not third party either)

8. Don't know what you're talking about here. Not at all. Are you thinking that Luigi is the only other Mario character I think will get in? No, there will probably be more. But as far as the SMRPG games need to be represented, we have that covered.

10. What do you mean Cloud wasn't considered? Do you mean like how Sonic wasn't on your "poll?"

Sakurai can like obscure characters all he wants, but that doesn't mean he'd use a third party spot for it. Sonic and Snake are not obscure. Any other third party character won't be obscure. Geno is obscure though, and even if he is classified under Mario, he's still third party.

And the people here know about him, since this board knows about him, but then again, this board tries to predict everyone. No one really knows who Takamaru is, but there's his thread right there. And while I admit Geno isn't on the Takamaru level, in comparison to Cloud of even the Black Mage, he's a complete nobody.
 

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not to be a geno hater but...
This game is for Nintendo ALLSTARS, not every charecter that you see in a video game. sure melee had some iffy charecters, but the origenal point of this game is to have the best, most original charecter from nintendo. That is what i didnt like about melee; face the facts can you really look at me with a straight face and tell me the "Geno" a charecter that appeared in 2 third party games that had mario in it qualifys as a nintendo allstar?
Wow...your logic really sucks.

You're saying Ssbb is for Nintendo All-stars? Oh, right, because every time I go to a video game store I see all these Ice climbers games and posters everywhere. Actually, Ice climbers only had 1 video game. Pit? He only had about, I don't know, 3? Last time I checked, Ssbb is for any Nintendo characters and not just all-stars.

your agument for hes only in 2 games, can't really say much there because my #1 pick for brawl is Captin Olimar and he's in 2 games (but those were really memorable games by that i mean if you go in the future in 20 years a person asks about super mario rpg and pikmen which game would the remember more?)
LOL. I actually almost lol'd at that. First thing, just because YOUR pick for Brawl is Captain Olimar, doesn't mean he has a better chance.

And Pikmin is more memorable than Mario Rpg? Not to diss Pikmin or anything, but I can tell you right now as a fact that Super Mario Rpg is and will be more popular than Pikmin.

ps. don't flame me because i speak the truth. If i hurt your feelings then go cry about it.
pss. i'm not a Geno hater i'm more like a Geno disliker
psss. he would be kinda kool in brawl (love Geno whirl :p 9999 dmg ftw)
So, to sum it up, your logic sucks; you obviously don't know much...I don't even know what else to say. You don't speak the truth at all no matter how many times you say it. And don't worry at all, you didn't hurt my feelings.

Nobody listen to this guy. He's clueless.

either i convinced ppl that geno shouldn't be in brawl or they or ingonoring my totally logical argumern
Wow. Just wow.
 

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Wow...your logic really sucks.

You're saying Ssbb is for Nintendo All-stars? Oh, right, because every time I go to a video game store I see all these Ice climbers games and posters everywhere. Actually, Ice climbers only had 1 video game. Pit? He only had about, I don't know, 3? Last time I checked, Ssbb is for any Nintendo characters and not just all-stars.



LOL. I actually almost lol'd at that. First thing, just because YOUR pick for Brawl is Captain Olimar, doesn't mean he has a better chance.

And Pikmin is more memorable than Mario Rpg? Not to diss Pikmin or anything, but I can tell you right now as a fact that Super Mario Rpg is and will be more popular than Pikmin.

So, to sum it up, your logic sucks; you obviously don't know much...I don't even know what else to say. You don't speak the truth at all no matter how many times you say it. Nobody listen to this guy. He's clueless.

First did i ever say that i wanted pit or ic's in brawl? and anyway without games like ice climbers and kid icaurus the NES would have sucked... and if the NES sucked then we would all be playing sega pluto or some crap now. the fact that you take things that i didnt say to disprove my agument is astonishing even when it is not relivent to the situation

also pikmen had more sales (in the US) then super mario rpg(in the US), and pikmen and other gc games had more competion then the snes games (because of the xbox and ps2) give me 1 examle why my logic sucks

btw that was my opion and opions can't be wrong, and if they aren't wrong they are right and if they are right then they are the truth chew on dat



and lol at your first stamemte cause. READ THE OPENING TO SUPER SMASH BROS OR SUPER SMASH BROS MELEE because it says NINTENDO ALLSTARS.. igloo=noob at logic
 

igloo9

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First did i ever say that i wanted pit or ic's in brawl? and anyway without games like ice climbers and kid icaurus the NES would have sucked... and if the NES sucked then we would all be playing sega pluto or some crap now. the fact that you take things that i didnt say to disprove my agument is astonishing even when it is not relivent to the situation

also pikmen had more sales (in the US) then super mario rpg(in the US), and pikmen and other gc games had more competion then the snes games (because of the xbox and ps2) give me 1 examle why my logic sucks

btw that was my opion and opions can't be wrong, and if they aren't wrong they are right and if they are right then they are the truth chew on dat



and lol at your first stamemte cause. READ THE OPENING TO SUPER SMASH BROS OR SUPER SMASH BROS MELEE because it says NINTENDO ALLSTARS.. igloo=noob at logic
First thing, I know the game is for Nintendo All-stars...but they don't ALL have to be all-stars. I honestly don't remember Lucas being an all-star. And even if he is more popular in Japan doesn't mean he's an all-star. Sure, he's popular, but he's no all-star.

About pikmin sales, sure, it may have had more sales. I don't know myself, but I believe you. But guess what? Super Mario Rpg is still more popular. It's still played by almost all Mario fans still, and it came out in 1996. Pikmin you could go buy at a store, but the prices can get pretty high on ebay for Mario Rpg. Why? It's rare and it's popular. If no one cared about the game, the prices would be pretty low. But everyone knows how popular it is, so they put a high price on it and let the bids flow in.

I know it's your opinion like you said, but do you know why I am saying it's wrong? Because in your previous post, you said something like "Don't get your feelings hurt because I speak the truth. If you do, then just go home and cry about it." You don't speak the truth. It's your opinion.

Once again, you have no logic.
 

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Umm.....does anybody know why the Smashwiki pages on all the character clubs got deleted?
R.I.D.L.E.Y hijacked them all.

And I have a possible reason why Square wouldn't try to put up a more well-known character for Brawl...

Cloud is out of the question. The only reason he even has a chance is because he had a cameo in KH: Chain of Memories, and let's not forget that, unlike Geno, he is a TRUE third-party character, and it's pretty much been established that if there is another 3rd party character, it's gonna be Megaman or Bomberman. Besides, Cloud represents the nasty splitup bewteen Nintendo and Square (This isn't THE one and only reason. It's not even very important, but it is a possible deterrant from Nintendo allowing Cloud and Brawl)

And Sora? His legal issues make Geno's look simple. And Chrono's are even more screwed up.

Also, why WOULD Square refuse Geno? Think about it, even if Nintendo has to ask and pay them to use a character, Square's already making millions off of Cloud and Sora thanks to KH and whatever FF7 remake they've come out with lately, while Geno continues to waste away in the filing cabinet. Using Geno in Brawl would be a way to make money off of someone who's barely even seen the light of day since SMRPG. And if it goes well, it could also lead to Geno's appearance in future games, leading to more money for Square, meaning they get an entirely new outlet for income.
 

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First thing, I know the game is for Nintendo All-stars...but they don't ALL have to be all-stars. I honestly don't remember Lucas being an all-star. And even if he is more popular in Japan doesn't mean he's an all-star. Sure, he's popular, but he's no all-star.

About pikmin sales, sure, it may have had more sales. I don't know myself, but I believe you. But guess what? Super Mario Rpg is still more popular. It's still played by almost all Mario fans still, and it came out in 1996. Pikmin you could go buy at a store, but the prices can get pretty high on ebay for Mario Rpg. Why? It's rare and it's popular. If no one cared about the game, the prices would be pretty low. But everyone knows how popular it is, so they put a high price on it and let the bids flow in.

I know it's your opinion like you said, but do you know why I am saying it's wrong? Because in your previous post, you said something like "Don't get your feelings hurt because I speak the truth. If you do, then just go home and cry about it." You don't speak the truth. It's your opinion.
which one is more popular, pong or Halo 3? you can buy halo 3 in a store but you can't buy pong in a store so it's more popular. the resoen snes games cost alot are because they don't make it anymore, it doesn't mean it's more popular (score me: 1 u: 0)

opinons cannot be wrong... EVER. NEVER EVER.. NEVER NEVER. if my opinon is i like cake. then it is not wrong nor will it ever be wrong. as for my origenal post. THOSE WERE ALL FACTS so they are the truth

Also Super smash bros. franchise is for NINTENDO ALLSTARS, that is clearly stated on the box and in the game.

And I have a possible reason why Square wouldn't try to put up a more well-known character for Brawl...

Cloud is out of the question. The only reason he even has a chance is because he had a cameo in KH: Chain of Memories, and let's not forget that, unlike Geno, he is a TRUE third-party character, and it's pretty much been established that if there is another 3rd party character, it's gonna be Megaman or Bomberman. Besides, Cloud represents the nasty splitup bewteen Nintendo and Square (This isn't THE one and only reason. It's not even very important, but it is a possible deterrant from Nintendo allowing Cloud and Brawl)

And Sora? His legal issues make Geno's look simple. And Chrono's are even more screwed up.

Also, why WOULD Square refuse Geno? Think about it, even if Nintendo has to ask and pay them to use a character, Square's already making millions off of Cloud and Sora thanks to KH and whatever FF7 remake they've come out with lately, while Geno continues to waste away in the filing cabinet. Using Geno in Brawl would be a way to make money off of someone who's barely even seen the light of day since SMRPG. And if it goes well, it could also lead to Geno's appearance in future games, leading to more money for Square, meaning they get an entirely new outlet for income.
Too bad it's not up to square if he gets in or not :(
 

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Sorry was busy w/ something

1.Sure, or you could just tell me what he said pertaining to Geno.

Look at my next post below this 1.

2. Huh? Luigi wasn't in SMRPG. All I'm saying is if you want representation from SMRPG, you already have three representatives. Then you can go on to the other parts of the Mario franchise.

He led the parades. All right Doctor Mario represents all the Mario games, thats y he was in Melee, yup not Wario...uh huh.

3. So you don't actually know if this person is relivant at all?

What? WE don’t know if this person is helping making the game or not.

5. Still nothing has changed. And again, that wasn't a poll. If it was, then you'd see Sonic at the top, since Sakurai said he was the most requested. =/

True it wasn’t a poll, but Sakurai said it’s a poll so unless you want me to lead you to that thread I can’t argue on this point more.

6. No, it's a overall thing. Geno was outclassed in his own game, and never showed up again after that. Paper Mario and Bowser Jr have shown up multiple times though. Heck, characters like Birdo and Waluigi have shown up more times than Geno, and in playable roles. Geno isn't as worthey as them, he's about as worthey as Twink from PM.

Wrong Geno has shown up again but in a small role. Over all PM is another Mario and Jr does outclass him but he is a side villain just trying to please daddy.

7. This thread isn't nearly enough, and you should know that. And even if he is used in the context of a Mario character, he's still owned by SE, a company that has much better characters to add. Want a historically relivant SE character? Get a Black Mage. Want a popular character everyone knows about? Get Cloud. Want some nobody who had one game and one cameo? Get Geno. Heck, he's not even classic like the other obscure characters. (Then again, the ICs were not third party either)

So you acknowledge that he has appeared in another game? Anyways Popular bores Sakurai, Square (Read this somewhere cant remember where TBH but…)doesn’t want to use a FF related character, logical choices are Sora or Geno not a popular which bores Sakurai or a generic character that appears in every game. (see Goomba to koopa troopa on this) Sora is partially owned by Disney so Geno is the only 1 left….


8. Don't know what you're talking about here. Not at all. Are you thinking that Luigi is the only other Mario character I think will get in? No, there will probably be more. But as far as the SMRPG games need to be represented, we have that covered.

Bow and Parakarry, Fawful and Geno all have appeared within a RPG like game twice. True they cover that BUT Doesn’t Peach, Bowser and Mario cover every game? Does Luigi appear in every Mario game?

10. What do you mean Cloud wasn't considered? Do you mean like how Sonic wasn't on your "poll?"

How is it my poll? Anyways Yes Sonic wasn’t on it, but was Cloud? Sakurai revealed that Saki was on that poll as well but was he mentioned like Ridley or Geno?
Sakurai can like obscure characters all he wants, but that doesn't mean he'd use a third party spot for it. Sonic and Snake are not obscure. Any other third party character won't be obscure. Geno is obscure though, and even if he is classified under Mario, he's still third party.

See Serosfan and loophole in legal rights.

And the people here know about him, since this board knows about him, but then again, this board tries to predict everyone. No one really knows who Takamaru is, but there's his thread right there. And while I admit Geno isn't on the Takamaru level, in comparison to Cloud of even the Black Mage, he's a complete nobody.

You could ask everyone in the world about Geno but those who know him are only gamers, and if the 1 mill+ in jpn don't mean anything then idk or the mills in America. If he was Rememberd enough to let him be a candidite 4 Brawl and both the Jpnese and the NA want him then let him be in Brawl.

Would it ruin the game or you for Geno to be in the game? Would you rather want a Young link or Doc. Mario over Geno? Waluigi?
 

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Diddy? Confirmed. Ike? Confirmed. Dedede? Confirmed... Lucas? Confirmed. Although this doesn't guarantee anything, with him high up on that poll, it's very likely.
Wait, I just noticed he was thrown in there with only first party characters. Ooooh shi-x:
Can someone verify these results?

Actually, Geno was mentioned 5 times and I have all five mentions to prove it:

No.14 Nickname & HiGe The reflection contribution theme * concerning the character Most first the hammer っ it is with マリオシリーズ the thing. In case by your, that was スーパーマリオ RPG. Seeing CM, very borrowing to the friend of that time with interest...... certain, you have forgotten to return it seems the way that way...... Well it sets aside trivial thing, by your very you like that game. Even among them, the doll and the Gee no where game original character soul resides. In juvenile mind, it stayed in him with the reflection very. Because sale at that time it was the elementary school student, freely there was a time when you play. Because of that, being also it clears to be quick extremely, simply just a little lonesome separation where but......, it is not never sad meaning in the ending, waited. If the next work was, being to think, that certainly and it can meet to the Gee no, it does, but because... it is quick, time to pass already it became good age, (laughing certainly did not have this questionnaire, you did not remember either the thing of the Gee no, probably will be. While answering to the questionnaire, when perhaps it does and it can meet, that... just just you expecting a little, whether it is it is not, it increases,

*1. This guy speaks fondly of Super Mario RPG, how he loved it as a kid, and even after 10 years, it's still his favorite game of all time. He then requests Geno, gives a brief description and explains why he'd like Geno in the game. He then basically says, and God love him for saying it, "Because you (referring to Sakurai) are such a nice guy, I'm sure Geno's already in the game and you're just not telling us."

No. 86 Nickname & beginning The reflection contribution theme * concerning the character Beginning! The っ which is the スマブラ new work it is and has been excited! ! The reflection to キャラ, with with the notion that where you say... from game and マリオ RPG which I love the Gee no...! ! Lines turning and skill and setting of Gee no. It is the chair coming which very is. First play time immature kindergarten child (!) Was, but now already it is the high school student. 10 years or more it passed to be even to, it is favorite the game which occasionally you have played. The む oak does, without understanding well, doing in feeling, hurting, but now you do with it is different at all, it is, don't you think?. Also from charm of the Gee no reached the point where it is understood... it is very delightful, is, * the no no to tell the truth it is the doll and/or, to tell the truth is the messenger of the star when, "the hay! "It is word っ ちゃ う cuteness, (laughing) and... little bit kana forcing ED. That, blue mantle again! Production, please persevere ^ ^ the っ which has been enjoyed!

*2. This one isn't all the different from the one above. He talks about his long history with SMRPG and how "like an oak tree, my love for this game has grown more and more with each passing year." He then requests Geno and tells Sakurai what qualities he likes about Geno's character

No. 247 Nickname & sea cucumber Contribution theme & depending etc. You ask already truly. This thinking was designated as 10 letter compositions. "The request Gee no putting out! " Then favorite the beverage you write. Favorite beverage: アンバサ
*(He talks about wanting Geno for Brawl and his favorite beverage and thanks Sakurai)


No. 268 Nickname & マユミ The reflection contribution theme * concerning the character Today, beginning? This page you were already agitated instantaneously is discovered! ! No せ I do 1st being to love in the game which previous スマデラ did until now. That everyday did that. You think that both キャラ, stage, the movie and music it is splendid it is possible and is. Because スマデラ the friend who does was not around me, the younger brothers and sisters you do, or did increased with 1 person and, but you did not grow tired at all. The consideration which can be played pleasantly even with 1 person, is quantity in this game, ill-smelling it is being to be. I grow tired the game doing, mostly, immediately, it is. So as for this you do not grow tired at all. Being to think, that such game it makes rather it is difficult, it does, but Sakurai made that...! It is the fearful person in good sense, (laughing) キャラ is the 1st reflection in the ice climber. The ice climber being it has been popular being to have known, it does, but... never it is lovely so...! ! When ポポナナ パンッ has touched at the time of victory, it is dense lovely something! ! When and it tries using, it is strong something! ! ! When 1 person it is done, there is a weak point that the weak body, aerial side movement is slow, but the stop っ ちゃ feeling where that intense スマッシュ skill is decided it was good! ! Because, I アイクラ was subject. That it probably will win the fox of the younger brother with アイクラ, being desperate, コンボ skill inspects the bosom oak to be... almost it could not win after all, but (laughing) even then it is to abandon with it has persevered? アイクラ to pull me to here, because they are the sources whom it makes be packed, and that the form, voice would like to hear lovely even with スマブラ X, is. Efficiency of the previous ポポナナ individual completely was the same, but each one also っ て the fact that efficiency is different delicately is funny so? How thinking, it increases. The あ, by the way new キャラ desires the Gee no and the participation of マロ. Already, also 10 years pass, but CM or not yet even cannot forget the story or music. Because 2 are people and character and skill unique, when it can participate, you think that it can enjoy rather. The long sentence impoliteness it does. Then paying attention to the body...
*4. For most of this entry, this guy goes on and on about why he loves the Ice Climbers and hopes that they return. Later, he requests Geno and Mallow for Brawl. He basically says "they are so unique that I'm sure many people would love to play as them."


No. 276 Nickname & マリオマスター Contribution theme * the music which is wanted inserting All everyone who has participated Sakurai, and to development. Very today. Will development how probably be? In we head, as for the music which is used in the game, as for those where it is necessary for the game it is the rice cake remaining overnight, but you think that they are one fine arts, it is! As for the game, スマブラ, the Nintendo Co. compilation into one book. In other words, there is no reason which even compilation into one book of the Nintendo Co. music can be said is? X of first generation, DX, and new work. By his is impressed hurting, it does with any スマブラ. Only main theme it can designate X yet as the ear, but it is this one tune, and others, you shivered, it is! Already, when development advances in earnest, you knew it is it is not, how it becomes, is. Well, rather thing please drive out with impression. By all means, all people, we request the kind of music which the impression tear it is possible! Privately it is BGM of the forest of ハナチャン "of マリオ RPG", if "carefulness it is in the mushroom of the forest," being to be delightful enormously, it does, but don't you think? but..., because that is the case that it is also the copyright of スクエニ, it is unreasonable; Well, if the Gee no participates, certainly! (Excessiveness The renewal here it devotes to one time closing and development so the shank. Everyone! The new world is enjoyed! Please persevere! -->


*5. This guy's pretty long winded like the previous guy was. He talks about how much he loved the Brawl's main theme and can't wait to hear how the rest of game's music sounds. He's utterly blown away about how much potential Brawl has music wise sense so many people and franchises are going to be involved. He then requests the tune "Forest Maze" from SMRPG. He talks about why he loves the theme but he's a little considered about whether or not it'll make it since Square Enix owns it. After that, he then basically says, "since it wouldn't make much sense to just add the tune to the game, why not make Geno a playable character too?"
 

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which one is more popular, pong or Halo 3? you can buy halo 3 in a store but you can't buy pong in a store so it's more popular. the resoen snes games cost alot are because they don't make it anymore, it doesn't mean it's more popular (score me: 1 u: 0)

opinons cannot be wrong... EVER. NEVER EVER.. NEVER NEVER. if my opinon is i like cake. then it is not wrong nor will it ever be wrong. as for my origenal post. THOSE WERE ALL FACTS so they are the truth

Also Super smash bros. franchise is for NINTENDO ALLSTARS, that is clearly stated on the box and in the game.
*Sigh*

I know they don't make Snes games anymore. But I guess you didn't know, Super Mario Rpg goes on ebay for a lot more than other Snes games. Super Mario All-stars and/or World can go anywhere from $5 to $20. Super Mario Rpg goes anywhere from $15 to $100. Don't believe me? Go on ebay and compare prices. You'll see a difference.

I know opinions cannot be wrong. However, you said they were all RIGHT. You said you spoke the truth. You do not speak the truth. That's what I meant when I said you were wrong.

Once again, I KNOW Ssbb is for Nintendo All-stars. But guess what, is Lucas an All-star? No. Is Pokemon trainer an All-star? No. Is Meta Knight an All-star? No. Yes, they are popular, but they are NOT All-stars.

So just quit trying to argue. You don't know what you're talking about and don't use logic.
 

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2. Huh? Luigi wasn't in SMRPG. All I'm saying is if you want representation from SMRPG, you already have three representatives. Then you can go on to the other parts of the Mario franchise.
I know Enigma didn't originally say this. Just bear with me, because this point has been bugging the hell out of me:

You can't expect Mario, Peach, and Bowser to represent SMRPG as they are. They're the three most important characters to the Mario series in general, and UNLESS THEIR MOVESETS ARE BASED DIRECTLY FROM SMRPG, THEY CAN'T BE EXPECTED TO REPRESENT IT.

If they represent SMRPG, why isn't Peach's FS something like Psyche Bomb? Why isn't Bowser's Bowser Crush? The one and ONLY thing any of them have that was unique to SMRPG was Peach's Frying Pan.

When you think of those three, is SMRPG the first thing to come to mind? No? Okay, how about Geno?

There you go.
 

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*Sigh*

I know they don't make Snes games anymore. But I guess you didn't know, Super Mario Rpg goes on ebay for a lot more than other Snes games. Super Mario All-stars and/or World can go anywhere from $5 to $20. Super Mario Rpg goes anywhere from $15 to $100. Don't believe me? Go on ebay and compare prices. You'll see a difference.

I know opinions cannot be wrong. However, you said they were all RIGHT. You said you spoke the truth. You do not speak the truth. That's what I meant when I said you were wrong.

Once again, I KNOW Ssbb is for Nintendo All-stars. But guess what, is Lucas an All-star? No. Is Pokemon trainer an All-star? No. Is Meta Knight an All-star? No. Yes, they are popular, but they are NOT All-stars.

So just quit trying to argue. You don't know what you're talking about and don't use logic.

LOL guitar hero 3 costs more then halo 3 so it must be a better game? :p
meta-knight is as much of allstar as kirby. he's the bowser to his mario
lol pokemon trainer is in how many games? 12??!!??!?!!?!?!?!? are they good games? well thats your opion. IF 12 GREAT GAMES DOESN'T MEAN YOU ARE AN ALLSTAR WHAT DOES. As for lucas hes the updated ness imo, So is ness and allstar?

your witness

you are right the score is Me: 1 You: 0
 

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not to be a geno hater but...
This game is for Nintendo ALLSTARS, not every charecter that you see in a video game.

So since when have ICs been a all star?

sure melee had some iffy charecters, but the origenal point of this game is to have the best, most original charecter from nintendo.

Geno is second party due to loophole, unqie and in Nintendo games.

That is what i didnt like about melee; face the facts can you really look at me with a straight face and tell me the "Geno" a charecter that appeared in 2 third party games that had mario in it qualifys as a nintendo allstar?

AlphaDreams is a second party developer meaning that Geno has appeared in 1 1 first party game the other being a colllaberation so I guess both are 1 or second party games.

i was reading the first post of this thread and your aguments are just.... well bad.

Bias.


see the first argument was that "no one heard of him" well i played the mario rpg, great game, and honestly didnt remeber him, i would have never even thought of him ppl hadnt had their "Geno 4 brawl" sigs and i bet some of you havent heard of him before, am eye -> (thats am i right btw)

I've played the game, I remembered, Japan and America remember enough for it to be the top requested game on the VC since it was first announced. 5 Japanese people remembered enough for him to be a canidate to be in Brawl.

next argument too many mario reps, hes not a mario rep imo hes a square rep (isn't that final fantasy company?)

Yes but Square isn't all FF. And there aren't too many Mario reps at the moment, there are only 4, MArio is the biggest franchise if you just want them to have 4 thats ur opinion, but everyone knows there are going to be more Mario reps, like it or not.

your agument for hes only in 2 games, can't really say much there because my #1 pick for brawl is Captin Olimar and he's in 2 games (but those were really memorable games by that i mean if you go in the future in 20 years a person asks about super mario rpg and pikmen which game would the remember more?)

to be fair thats a bias and OLIMARS GAMES WERE RECENT.

now for the 3rd party spot argument, i think sakuri's biggest mistake was revieling sonic too early giving people gumdrop fantastys and lolypop dreams, imo ppl want too many 3rd party charecters but fact is charecters like "pacman"(lolroflrofllolol at all the ppl that think he's gonna be in brawl) arn't really nintendo Alstars they should make their own allstar game like the allstar rare game Diddy Kong Racing

Don't forget Snake <.<

Also that game is now known as Banjoe Kazooie Pilot.


final statement, how bout i make an RPG game with mario and Master Chief from halo, then he'll be in brawl!!!!

Go ahead but it isn't certified by Nintendo so you're statement doesn't really do much.

ps. don't flame me because i speak the truth. If i hurt your feelings then go cry about it.

Ok


pss. i'm not a Geno hater i'm more like a Geno disliker

ok

psss. he would be kinda kool in brawl (love Geno whirl :p 9999 dmg ftw)
ok

You're arguements suck and thanks for pointing out what ever other disliker has said before. Also thanks for convincing me that Geno shouldn't be in Brawl.

GENO 4 BRAWL!
 

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LOL guitar hero 3 costs more then halo 3 so it must be a better game? :p
meta-knight is as much of allstar as kirby. he's the bowser to his mario
lol pokemon trainer is in how many games? 12??!!??!?!!?!?!?!? are they good games? well thats your opion. IF 12 GREAT GAMES DOESN'T MEAN YOU ARE AN ALLSTAR WHAT DOES. As for lucas hes the updated ness imo, So is ness and allstar?

your witness

you are right the score is Me: 1 You: 0
Lol, you are really funny. But wrong.

One word. Logic.

Guitar Hero 3 costs more than Halo 3 because of the guitar, obviously. Actually, Guitar Hero 3 is cheaper than Halo 3. Guitar Hero 3 game is $40-$50, while Halo 3 is $60. The other $30-$40 on Gh3 is because of the Guitar. The actual game is cheaper than Halo 3.

Meta knight to Kirby is Bowser to Mario? Are you serious? Meta-knight does NOT represent Bowser. King Dedede represents Bowser. King Dedede is the villain.

For the fourth time, just because a character is popular doesn't mean they are an all-star. Sure, Lucas is the updated Ness. But I don't see Meta knight as an all-star. He's very popular but not an All-star. I mean, I guess he could be, but he wasn't in a whole bunch of the Kirby games, so, I don't know...But anyway, Pokemon trainer doesn't count, because he is his OWN character. He isn't an official character with a name. He just represents YOU in the pokemon games.

Me: 1
You: 0
 

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LOL guitar hero 3 costs more then halo 3 so it must be a better game? :p

Nope. Just more highly desired, and in higher demand. And the only reason GH costs more is because you have to buy the controller.

meta-knight is as much of allstar as kirby. he's the bowser to his mario

True, but unlike Bowser, MetaKnight's not actually a villian. More of an anit-hero.

lol pokemon trainer is in how many games? 12??!!??!?!!?!?!?!? are they good games? well thats your opion. IF 12 GREAT GAMES DOESN'T MEAN YOU ARE AN ALLSTAR WHAT DOES.

This may be true, but explain the Ice Climbers, then? How were they All-Stars? Or Falco, for that matter. Or Sheik. Or Roy. Or Pichu. Or Dr. Mario. remember, all of them originally got in over METAKNIGHT AND WARIO.

As for lucas hes the updated ness imo, So is ness and allstar?

Ness is, but Lucas isn't. They're not the same person.

your witness

you are right the score is Me: 1 You: 0
O NOEZ I M VANKWISHD! CRSHED BAI YUR INFFALLABUL LOJICK!!!1
 

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Lol, you are really funny. But wrong.

One word. Logic.

Guitar Hero 3 costs more than Halo 3 because of the guitar, obviously. Actually, Guitar Hero 3 is cheaper than Halo 3. Guitar Hero 3 game is $40-$50, while Halo 3 is $60. The other $30-$40 on Gh3 is because of the Guitar. The actual game is cheaper than Halo 3.

Meta knight to Kirby is Bowser to Mario? Are you serious? Meta-knight does NOT represent Bowser. King Dedede represents Bowser. King Dedede is the villain.

For the fourth time, just because a character is popular doesn't mean they are an all-star. Sure, Lucas is the updated Ness. But I don't see Meta knight as an all-star. He's very popular but not an All-star. I mean, I guess he could be, but he wasn't in a whole bunch of the Kirby games, so, I don't know...But anyway, Pokemon trainer doesn't count, because he is his OWN character. He isn't an official character with a name. He just represents YOU in the pokemon games.

Me: 1
You: 0
YOu guys, this is A GENO THREAD. Stay on topic. If you wanna take it outside, PM eachother.
 

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1 never said ic's were allstars
2 didnt really understand what u said
3 same as 2
4 opinion
5 can't really disporove my oponion so no comment
6 never said there were too many mario reps
7 so
8 Snake started as nintendo then traded like a baseball card like what happend with the RAre finasco when they were bought out by microsoft. Why would they change Diddy kong racings name?
9 no comment

Bias or my opioion.. your witness
 

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YOu guys, this is A GENO THREAD. Stay on topic. If you wanna take it outside, PM eachother.
Actually, we are on topic. I'm trying to explain to him that Geno has a chance, and he's giving me all this "All-star" crap.
 

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Lol, you are really funny. But wrong.

One word. Logic.

Guitar Hero 3 costs more than Halo 3 because of the guitar, obviously. Actually, Guitar Hero 3 is cheaper than Halo 3. Guitar Hero 3 game is $40-$50, while Halo 3 is $60. The other $30-$40 on Gh3 is because of the Guitar. The actual game is cheaper than Halo 3.

Meta knight to Kirby is Bowser to Mario? Are you serious? Meta-knight does NOT represent Bowser. King Dedede represents Bowser. King Dedede is the villain.

For the fourth time, just because a character is popular doesn't mean they are an all-star. Sure, Lucas is the updated Ness. But I don't see Meta knight as an all-star. He's very popular but not an All-star. I mean, I guess he could be, but he wasn't in a whole bunch of the Kirby games, so, I don't know...But anyway, Pokemon trainer doesn't count, because he is his OWN character. He isn't an official character with a name. He just represents YOU in the pokemon games.

Me: 1
You: 0
your first stamement... i was only making a point that cost doesnt determine games goodness

secound statement... didnt know anything else to compare him to

last IF YOU DONT SEE THEM AS ALLSTARS THEN GO SPEAK TO SAKURI. Also bowser wasnt in a bunch of mario games. how does pokemon trainer not count

and again you are right the score IS Me:1 You:0
 

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your first stamement... i was only making a point that cost doesnt determine games goodness

secound statement... didnt know anything else to compare him to

last IF YOU DONT SEE THEM AS ALLSTARS THEN GO SPEAK TO SAKURI. Also bowser wasnt in a bunch of mario games. how does pokemon trainer not count

and again you are right the score IS Me:1 You:0
I understand about the cost thing, but still...I'm pretty sure Mario Rpg is more popular if it goes a lot higher than other Snes Mario games. Although it's not a fact, still, Mario Rpg is one of the most popular Snes games.

Second statement, if you don't know what to compare him to then you just shouldn't compare.

Bowser wasn't in a bunch of Mario games? He's in just about EVERY ONE. Wow, to someone who doesn't think Bowser is in every Mario game? You have to be kidding me. Pokemon Trainer doesn't count, because he is YOU. He isn't his OWN character. He doesn't have a name. He represents you.

Igloo: 1
Danbearking: 0
 

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1 never said ic's were allstars

Yet you said NINTENDO OR JUST ALL STARS ONLY

2 didnt really understand what u said

Geno is a unique character that has starred in Nintendo games that are first party and is Nintendo in the fact that he has only appeared in Nintendo games.

3 same as 2

Already explained in previous post.
4 opinion

true but u said bad so ur on a bias as well.

5 can't really disporove my oponion so no comment

No comment that Geno is remembered? I played that game years ago and between that time I played that game to the point where he was he mentioned on the poll, I’ve remembered him. 5 People from Japan remember him enough for him to be a candidate in Brawl and BOTH people FROM JAPAN AND AMERICA want the game he starred in!

6 never said there were too many mario reps

Really cause the first post where you declared your self a not hater says otherwise.

7 so

So what? Which would be more fair? TO COMPARE 2 GAME FROM RECENTLY or to COMPARE 1 OLD GAME AND A NEW GAME WHICH HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER?

8 Snake started as nintendo then traded like a baseball card like what happend with the RAre finasco when they were bought out by microsoft. Why would they change Diddy kong racings name?

Funny thought Konami was always its own company…They didn’t just change the name when they renamed it they changed everything but the racing.


Bias or my opioion.. your witness

Both.
 

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I understand about the cost thing, but still...I'm pretty sure Mario Rpg is more popular if it goes a lot higher than other Snes Mario games. Although it's not a fact, still, Mario Rpg is one of the most popular Snes games.

Second statement, if you don't know what to compare him to then you just shouldn't compare.

Bowser wasn't in a bunch of Mario games? He's in just about EVERY ONE. Wow, to someone who doesn't think Bowser is in every Mario game? You have to be kidding me. Pokemon Trainer doesn't count, because he is YOU. He isn't his OWN character. He doesn't have a name. He represents you.

Igloo: 1
Danbearking: 0

you know what i mean by the first 2 staments

bowser wan't in:
Donkey Kong
Super mario bros. (offically)
super mario bros. 2
mario bros
dr. mario
super mario world 2
super mario bros. lost levels (offically)
mario strikers (not playable or an npc)
super mario land
Ect...

pokemon trainer is RED, saying he is u is like saying mario is you and he shouln't be in brawl

*takes out a lighter and melts igloo and takes the point he took from me*

Danbearking0-1
igloo- dead
 

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1 never said ic's were allstars

Yet you said NINTENDO OR JUST ALL STARS ONLY

2 didnt really understand what u said

Geno is a unique character that has starred in Nintendo games that are first party and is Nintendo in the fact that he has only appeared in Nintendo games.

3 same as 2

Already explained in previous post.
4 opinion

true but u said bad so ur on a bias as well.

5 can't really disporove my oponion so no comment

No comment that Geno is remembered? I played that game years ago and between that time I played that game to the point where he was he mentioned on the poll, I’ve remembered him. 5 People from Japan remember him enough for him to be a candidate in Brawl and BOTH people FROM JAPAN AND AMERICA want the game he starred in!

6 never said there were too many mario reps

Really cause the first post where you declared your self a not hater says otherwise.

7 so

So what? Which would be more fair? TO COMPARE 2 GAME FROM RECENTLY or to COMPARE 1 OLD GAME AND A NEW GAME WHICH HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER?

8 Snake started as nintendo then traded like a baseball card like what happend with the RAre finasco when they were bought out by microsoft. Why would they change Diddy kong racings name?

Funny thought Konami was always its own company…They didn’t just change the name when they renamed it they changed everything but the racing.


Bias or my opioion.. your witness

Both.
first if you dont like ic's talk to nintendo about it but SUPER SMASH BROS HAS NINTENDO ALLSTAR SO DEAL

i never said there are too many mario reps i said that GENO ISNT A MARIO REP HES A 3RD PARTY or 2nd if you insist

you say i cant compare new games too old yet you compare super mario rpg to Ice climers :p

all i remember is that komani used to be owned by nintendo but is not just like rare

also you can't change my opion only i can your witness
 

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you know what i mean by the first 2 staments

bowser wan't in:
Donkey Kong
Super mario bros. (offically)
super mario bros. 2
mario bros
dr. mario
super mario world 2
super mario bros. lost levels (offically)
mario strikers (not playable or an npc)
super mario land
Ect...

pokemon trainer is RED, saying he is u is like saying mario is you and he shouln't be in brawl

*takes out a lighter and melts igloo and takes the point he took from me*

Danbearking0-1
igloo- dead
Donkey Kong wasn't an official mario game. It just stars a guy looking like mario to save a girl from donkey kong.

Bowser was in Super Mario Bros. Just because he was called Koopa and not Bowser doesn't mean he wasn't in it. Same for Super mario lost levels.

Mario strikers? Explain this pic please.

And this one:


For the rest, so what? Bowser's not in a couple of Mario games, when there's over 100 Mario games.

Igloo: 1
Danbearking: 0
 

PsychoIncarnate

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first if you dont like ic's talk to nintendo about it but SUPER SMASH BROS HAS NINTENDO ALLSTAR SO DEAL

i never said there are too many mario reps i said that GENO ISNT A MARIO REP HES A 3RD PARTY or 2nd if you insist

you say i cant compare new games too old yet you compare super mario rpg to Ice climers :p

all i remember is that komani used to be owned by nintendo but is not just like rare

also you can't change my opion only i can your witness
Geno is a Mario character, he'd have the Mushroom symbol...therefore, He'd be in the Mario franchise in Smash
 

Enigma14

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first if you dont like ic's talk to nintendo about it but SUPER SMASH BROS HAS NINTENDO ALLSTAR SO DEAL

I like the Ics but you said ALL STARS ONLY.

you say i cant compare new games too old yet you compare super mario rpg to Ice climers :p

Funny I never compared them I just stated that ICs arent ALLSTARS just characters like Geno is. YOU'RE the 1 who compared Pikmin to SMRPG =P.

all i remember is that komani used to be owned by nintendo but is not just like rare

True but Konami is its own company now, right? But wait Hudson makes games for nintendo...

also you can't change my opion only i can your witness

What? I know I can't change your mind but hat do u mean witness?
 

DarkSpidey13

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bowser wan't in:
Super mario bros. (offically)
super mario world 2
super mario bros. lost levels (offically)
mario strikers (not playable or an npc)
THIS post right here means that you, officially, have no bloody clue what you're talking about.

Bowser was in ALL of the games mentioned above, officially.
 

Danbearking0

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first if you dont like ic's talk to nintendo about it but SUPER SMASH BROS HAS NINTENDO ALLSTAR SO DEAL

I like the Ics but you said ALL STARS ONLY.

you say i cant compare new games too old yet you compare super mario rpg to Ice climers :p

Funny I never compared them I just stated that ICs arent ALLSTARS just characters like Geno is. YOU'RE the 1 who compared Pikmin to SMRPG =P.

all i remember is that komani used to be owned by nintendo but is not just like rare

True but Konami is its own company now, right? But wait Hudson makes games for nintendo...

also you can't change my opion only i can your witness

What? I know I can't change your mind but hat do u mean witness?
first, YA according to what nintendo thinks IC's are Allstars, until they confirme Geno in He will never be a nintendo allstar

by comparing geno to ic's you are comparing 2 games

and lastly i forgot the comma sry :p your witness
 
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