Q&A The official "Ask Your Questions" thread

[Strong Badam]

yea this one

 

[bubbaking]

Congrats on winning the tourney, btw! ;D

 

[MEXICAN]

lol, sorry guys, but i can honestly say that i haven't touched a cube controller since genesis 2. I'm going to see if i can't make it to a few local tournaments, but i guess you can say i've been retired since genesis 2. lol. Although if another major tournament shows up near me, i'll probably go, not even just to play smash, but because the smash community is awesome. lol. I'll still try to post on here if you guys have questions, but this is probably the first time i've come to this site in weeks. lol

 

[NJzFinest]

They need to delete Falco

 

[bubbaking]

They need to delete Falco

You mean both Spacees, right? Being waveshine spiked sucks... (T_T)

 

[Strong Badam]

I can destroy Fox.
Not Falco.

 

[JonnyW]

You mean both Spacees, right? Being waveshine spiked sucks... (T_T)

Spacees are needed.

 

[MEXICAN]

I can destroy Fox.
Not Falco.

Be careful of what you say. You never know when KFC may be reading. lol

 

[KILLA.FOR.CASH.]

he CAN destroy fox

doesnt mean he will lol

 

[Strong Badam]

I offered to play KFC but he CHICKENED out when I was in SoCal after Genesis 2.

 

[KILLA.FOR.CASH.]

lol i had no money man

ill make it up to you next time =)

 

[crush]

Sounds good.

 

[Dimitris]

2 DKs made RoM bracket.

Phish-it and

Went all Falcon this tournament
My pool was probably harder than average to make it out, but I still lost to a DK in the process (Kuam is pretty good though)
(But it's still DK)
I think he was the only one in our pools to take a match off Kage

he means Kwan.

Pretty gud, right.
I want to know how they did in bracket...

 

[phish-it]

I got 2nd seed in Pools to Tec-0 and in bracket I fought Over Triforce first round, (don't know how that happened) got *****. I beat Spife (sheik) in losers and he managed to take a game off me after giving him tips earlier in friendlies on what to do against DK. I lost to Cyrain after that but the set was down to the wire and it really could have gone either way. I always seem to barely miss the kill and lose for it, but oh well.


Rom was fun, not sure how Kwan did (probably the only tournament we didnt play in) I'm gonna be at Apex too if any other monks are showing up.

 

[Dimitris]

Good job man.
+ Made you post here.

 

[CptDiabetes]

Hey, I'm still a little new to the smash boards community and I do main DK. I'm from the Toledo/Northwest Ohio region. Firstly, How useful would you say shield dropping is on DK and in what situations is it useful? Second, how in the hell would you stop a fox from shinedashing you after he gets the first shine in?

 

[bubbaking]

Spacees are needed.

No, they're not. All they're doing is keeping the low-tiers super low and keeping Sheik in check.

Hey, I'm still a little new to the smash boards community and I do main DK. I'm from the Toledo/Northwest Ohio region. Firstly, How useful would you say shield dropping is on DK and in what situations is it useful? Second, how in the hell would you stop a fox from shinedashing you after he gets the first shine in?

I'm guessing you're talking about waveshining. Well, I'm not sure about this, but I think the direction you hold when it happens has something to do w/ it. I think holding towards Fox after the 1st shine makes it easier to follow up w/ more. I think there might also be a way to get yourself knocked down, but again, don't quote me on any of this. As for shield dropping, I imagine it would be great for putting you into instant uairs out of shield which would be cool.

 

[Strong Badam]

Can't DI shine. SDI is all you can do.

 

[crush]

Shine DIs you.


<33333333 bairjew

 

[CptDiabetes]

That blows about waveshining...fox is so gay. As for shield dropping, it would be similar to pikas u-air out of shield?

 

[Strong Badam]

shield dropping is really good w/ DK if you're able to do it out of shield pressure. imagine getting shield pressured and then all the sudden you're comboing them w/ uair... so good.
learn shield drop uair and shield drop bair/shield drop DJ bair. i've also been messing w/ sheld drop up-b because it has more horizontal range than normal up-b OoS and catches shorties like Fox/Falco/Puff

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Where's a good place to start with learning DK, aside from the basic "know how his moves work", which I've got a pretty good idea of now?

 

[Strong Badam]

Use back air a lot

 

[Supreme Dirt]

duuuurrr..

 

[Strong Badam]

Seriously the best advice MEXICAN ever gave me.

 

[crush]

Supreme Derp :joey:

 

[CptDiabetes]

Idk if anyone from this is gonna go to apex or not; but Im gonna try to go this year. So if I was going against a sheik, what would you say that matchup is? obv. in sheiks favor, but by how much? And do her needles turn you around like falcos lazers do?

 

[Strong Badam]

I'm going to Apex
Sheik-DK is 70-30 if they know the match-up and CG, 60-40 otherwise.
Needles turn you around but they have way more endlag so they aren't as devastating. The main problem in the match-up is the grabs.

 

[CptDiabetes]

I thought dk could DI out of sheiks cg? Isnt it if you DI behind sheik when she d-throws you? And would you suggest throwing sheik up with dk then leading with the helicopter?

 

[Strong Badam]

You can't DI out of it after 40ish%.
Why would you uthrow up-b when you can uthrow uair. Uthrow up-B is a gimmick that doesn't really work anymore because people know how to DI

 

[CptDiabetes]

So the up throw into up - b doesnt work on any slow fallers? I know it certainly doesnt work on puff, but would it work on marth?

 

[Strong Badam]

you'll get the first hit for sure at lowish percents.... it's just not recommended over a u-air string.

 

[bubbaking]

Think about it. Uair combos=more damage, and you'd only catch them w/ uthrow>upB at low %'s, a a time when you'd want to be piling damage on them.

 

[Strong Badam]

uair combos aren't legit at lower %'s tho like 0-10%, but I'd rather hit them above me and then abuse positional advantage and hit them on landing or just in general again.

uthrow upb is pretty good in doubles though when you can't rely on being able to fully abuse a character. i usually prefer uair tho... just works better for me.

 

[bubbaking]

Uthrow>upB depends on u reading their DI well, right?

 

[Strong Badam]

if by reading you mean reacting, then yeah

 

[KingofCereal]

What strategies do you all use to not get hit? Spacing with fat and slow gorillas is a challenge, but at this point I've invested so much time into DK that training someone else is wrong. The damage just piles up, and even though DK does live forever he doesn't live forever.

 

[bubbaking]

(O_O) What the heck? DK isn't fat, and he's not slow either. Quite the opposite of both, in fact. He's muscular and he's the fastest of all the heavyweights. Being the 2nd heaviest helps out quite a bit, too.

Edit: You said, "The damage just piles up..." Well, perhaps you're just trying to shield too much with him. His shield is one of the worst, you know...

 

[Strong Badam]

Spacing is mostly with advancing or retreating bairs. You can sneak an Ftilt or dtilt in pretty easily too against most chars. Dtilt is a lot faster endlag wise so it's safer, but harder to use in-between bairs because of the turnaround required.

As far as other neutral game spacing goes, DK has a very good dash-dance and can challenge even Marth's DD game if you're good at it.

 

[bubbaking]

What does DK do well out of a dash?