The New Super Awesome Oregon Home Thread!!! :D

[Peach Masta]

what are you trying to take time off work for? I don't see why you'd take time off work for a smashfest. If it's tournaments. GC has a clear date every month that you can attend. We've had one tournament in Oregon since GC Portland. That tournament had like a month notice. Also, 2 weeks ahead is a hella long time to announce a smashfest. Smashfests are usually made when you feel like smash. Usually people (at least me) doesn't predict I'm going to be in the mood for smash 2 weeks ahead.

 

[Surreal]

Not entirely picking sides, but I think it's dumb to be short notice on where the venue actually is, and whether we actually have one. I'm hoping LOST will be a good lesson to MAKE 100% SURE YOU HAVE A GUARANTEED VENUE BEFORE MAKING A PAGE.

(not directed at anyone personally)

 

[Peach Masta]

Yeah because LOST was a HUGE failure being last minute with that venue

 

[Surreal]

It still caused a lot of annoyance to people.

 

[Peach Masta]

sorry that organizing a tournament, struggling to find a venue, but still finding one (using MY OWN house. Having to clean everyone's mess and house people), and running a perfectly fine tournament. Might have annoyed some people

 

[Surreal]

You're taking it too personally. I'm not saying your hospitality was an annoyance, I'm saying having a tournament be promised on and off and eventually turning into a maybe for weeks only for it to be confirmed right before it happens is an annoyance, because people have to call in weeks in advance for work to take a day off, and if they called that day off, I don't think a lot of them take back their day off last second, and will thus have to use it, and have wasted their free day when they could've used it for something else.

Also, not to be a giant **** (I will sound like one anyways), but I'm pretty sure Phil was doing most of the work looking for a venue before asking you, and even then the work itself is just making a few phone calls and/or one or two visits to the venue to set things up.

 

[Peach Masta]

True Phil did all of the work trying to find the venue. Which he didn't find one. Because it really isn't that easy. So we went with MY venue. If it was such little work why would you or anyone else not have found a venue by now. I said like a MONTH before the tournament. Clear your schedules. That should have been a good indication to CLEAR your schedules. Yeah it was hot and cold. That came like 3 weeks after I said clear your schedule. People would have clearly cleared their schedule. If they were planning on coming.

 

[Surreal]

Schedule wasn't an issue to me, I'm just trying to show you how it is from the people who work's point of view.

No one else found a venue because no one else was looking for one. While some fault lies in everyone for not doing their part, a lot of us really don't have a clue where one would find venues unless you're going to college or you're affiliated with venue type buildings (card shops, lan centers, video game shops, etc), and thus can't really help even if we wanted to. Blame game doesn't really need to be played here, however if our scene plans on holding a tournament we should make sure we have the resources before acting (read: knowledge of venues and how to run tournaments, making sure we have a venue guaranteed first).

 

[Peach Masta]

I understand work peoples point of view. That's why we gave like a month notice. I don't see how this was last minute at all.

They way you worded finding a venue. It wasn't that much work at all. So for someone who complains about how the scene is dying. Why would one not try to just "make a few calls and visit a few venues".

My point of this whole thing. Was saying how last minute isn't bad and nothing was last minute. So I was confused with why he was saying "let's not do things last minute".

Also, just for fun. Who do you know that were greatly annoyed because of the venue issue? Let's just say Vulcan and Grunt were annoyed. So we have 2 people. I'm not going to count people who did get work off if it was needed and attended and had a good time.

Also, I do agree that a venue should be found before making a page. I'm saying if even if that's not the case. Things still work out in the end

 

[Surreal]

Once I get into college, I will definitely be looking into contributing to the scene tournament wise, but for the moment, I lack the resources. I'm not going to make claims I can help until I actually have the resources to.

It was last second in the fact that it wasn't even confirmed to happen until two or three days before it. Some people like assurance. I can imagine it would be really frustrating to work people to have called a day off on a "maybe" tournament, only to have it ended up never happening and them wasting a day. I'm just saying it caused needless worry to those with a busy schedule, since some of them really want to make sure that they don't call off a day of work or call off meeting someone in vain.

Edit: Besides grunt and vulcan, Michael was a little irked at the planning of it, as was I. There's 2 more people. I'm definitely sure I could find a few more who would say they wished this was planned out smoother. We had fun at the tournament sure, but as I was saying, people like to have assurance.

 

[Peach Masta]

You are aware you don't need to be in college to find a venue. The Twins find venues and they aren't affiliated with anything. Casey was able to get PSU venues and he didn't know anyone. Guy back in the melee/new brawl days. Was able to get venues with nothing. Me and GC Guy were able to get that gamestore for GC Portland. Without any hook up. You just have to do the work to get it. Instead of hiding behind the "oh I don't have any resources" john

 

[Surreal]

Fair enough on my part, but my other points still stand.

New Goal: I'll try to host at least one tournament by 12 months.

 

[Peach Masta]

well for my point.

A successful event that seemed "last minute to some. Even though I gave a month in advance": 1

last minute being annoying and not working: 0

Hell yeah

 

[Vulcan55]

I ****ing tried taking off a weekend a month in advance for a GC, and you know what happened? I tried asking people for info on carpools, and no one was prepared. It wasn't until, like, a week before that Scout finally decided to carpool, but I couldn't get a seat because you, Gage, wanted other people to go.
I ended up not doing anything that weekend when I could have been working.

Also, the venue AND date for LOST were very last minute. don't even try to deny it.

 

[keeper]

I'm most certainly not a fan of "networking" in the regard that it ends up playing to favorites. I mean, of course you want to take your friends and stuff, but it always screws someone else out of a place in going to a tournament (carpools). I've seen it happen many times and I really don't agree with priority seating.

The tournament was pretty last minute, especially if you're trying to plan a "sort of maybe carpool" with someone. I mean, let's face it, not a lot of people in the smash scene, at least around here, work very much, if at all (not to mention an abundant amount partake in drug and alcohol abuse [including cigarettes]) or just don't do a lot as is (such as myself).

All that can be done is change stuff in the future to be more solid. I actually really miss Casey planned tournaments. Guy's tournaments were always where he lived, which isn't hard to do if you have a large enough house (or a garage).

I don't know what else to say other than inconveniencing people sucks, it was a decent tournament with a decent amount of set-ups. Seating was a total pain though and the short notice "yeah, it's where I live" kind of sucked.

 

[Peach Masta]

Just throwing it out there.

"Phil Nye the SCIENCE Guy wrote at 8:36 PM on Jul 07, 2010:
Reserved for tournament organizer."

"Phil Nye the SCIENCE Guy wrote at 10:56 AM on Jul 27, 2010:
I think since it's going to be a monthly, we'll actually just hold it on Aug. 27-28, and then another for Sept. 24-25"

The first one was when the tournament page was made. We were balancing between 3 dates. The second one is when the tournaments date was confirmed. The tournament was on Aug.28th. Seems to me that there was PLENTY of time to know. This was far from last minute. As I've said before, the venue was shaky up until the last week. I still told everyone to clear their schedules for the tournament. Did the tournament happen? Yes it did. Were people left doing nothing for the weekend because the tournament didn't happen? No, no one did

Also, I in no way have jurisdiction over who goes in Kaylee's car. You can ask her if you want. It's ultimately her decision on who goes in the carpool. Seeing as it's HER carpool.

Guys 5th RCB was at PSU.

 

[Cactuarz]

True Phil did all of the work trying to find the venue. Which he didn't find one. Because it really isn't that easy. So we went with MY venue. If it was such little work why would you or anyone else not have found a venue by now.

AHEM?! Sutherlin has 2 venues... both capable of hosting a good sized tourney... so pttttttttttttttb

 

[Peach Masta]

that's because all you guys have are empty buildings. Waiting for people to come to them haha

 

[Surreal]

I have already spoken to Kaylee on this issue before so I think I'll state some things:

Technically, she does get her own say in who can ride with her since it is her car. She doesn't even have to carpool anyone, let alone do a free one, and it really is out of her generosity, so really, I suggest not making the same mistake I did and complaining about her carpool in specific.

However I would also like to note that you have more voice power in this than you say Gage. Mooch has told me that there are a few times that he was able to get a seat just by asking you to ask Kaylee. You may not directly control who gets a ride, but when you ask for her to pick someone up, there's a higher chance she'll accept your request than decline and take someone else.

This isn't really your fault since it's still her choice in who will get that privilege (and it's also not something to get mad at her about, for reasons said above), but I sometimes think the choice in seating can be silly, notably when it's someone who has their own car like Alex or Erik (I don't know if Erik's ever ridden with her, but I'm highly sure Alex has carpooled with her before), when they could've held a second carpool and made whatever tournament more available to more people. Also, do I even need to mention that one occurrence with Brick?

/Drama llama

 

[Peach Masta]

Well in the carpools of Oregons defense. No one takes Viviff up on his Carpool. He has carpooled to almost every GC and all he basically gets is Yugo to go in his carpool. So if anyone wanted to go to GC. He does indeed have 3 spots usually open. Sometimes 2 because he takes his roommate on occasion.

Fun fact: I didn't know "carpooled" was a word until just now

 

[Surreal]

I am master inventor of words.

I honestly had no idea regarding viviff's carpool. He should be more vocal on it. Like, you know, make a blog about it, and post on here perhaps, giving prices while he's at it.

 

[phi1ny3]

Well in the carpools of Oregons defense. No one takes Viviff up on his Carpool. He has carpooled to almost every GC and all he basically gets is Yugo to go in his carpool. So if anyone wanted to go to GC. He does indeed have 3 spots usually open. Sometimes 2 because he takes his roommate on occasion.

Fun fact: I didn't know "carpooled" was a word until just now

He used to have full carpools until Kaylee did her free ones lol, I remember having to fight over getting in lol.

I'm going in his anyways since I have to arrive back in Sherwood on Sunday.

btw what did everyone think of LOST in terms of tournament success? Any improvements? (aside from venue, sorry too easy to pick on rofl)

I'm frankly surprised how quickly we went through things despite starting relatively late.

@ all the critics: First time doing it + nobody bothering to state pricings when it was the FIRST thing I asked after PSU, and inability to get a hold of anyone (summer's hard when you're going for school-ish venues). I used to complain about TO issues like when the smash twins had "complications" for StS, then once I became a TO, I got to feel what it was like to get the same dilemma. I would suggest if one dislikes the system to take it upon themselves to better the previous attempt in a similar scenario. What I can say is it's going to be easier to get into contact w/ PSU since school's starting soon (although anime club STILL hasn't emailed me yet regarding sponsoring for this next month, hence why I haven't layed out the tournament page yet).

 

[Peach Masta]

We could have gone MUCH quicker Phil. I was just taking a slow and fun approach. I could have probably ran things 1-2 hours faster minimum

 

[indigestible_wad]

Cactuarz, where's the match between me and messiahfreak? It's been a week and I haven't seen in on your youtube. If you don't want to upload it you could send it to me.

 

[Cactuarz]

Haven't been able to upload last couple days with work/sleep (8 days in a row kills me) also other johns about people in the house torrenting. It's currently going up

 

[Eggz]

tourney on the 11th if you guys dont know
at gc n ****

 

[Cactuarz]

=/ GC should be closer to sutherlin... /jealous

 

[ShrieK1295]

I'm from norcal and I'm gonna be in Eugene for the next week. Anyone want to smash around here? My number is 6503802909

 

[indigestible_wad]

Melee or brawl?

 

[ShrieK1295]

Sorry, melee

 

[indigestible_wad]

Eugene doesn't have a very big melee scene anymore. THere's debaser, and that's about it. Well there's Jizzard, but he dropped off the radar. Maybe I can see if anyone from corvallis would be willing to go down to eugene for a smashfest.

 

[KAOSTAR]

gc september 11th. gonna be hot.
/flagged 4 spam

 

[porc]

Hello fellow smashers

My friend Salepate and I will most certainly come 1 month to the US next summer, to visit and smash of course (Genesis 2 !!).
And we are likely to be hosted at least a few days in Portland by Salepate's brother who lives there.


So, I know this is early but i'm excited lol, is there any (melee) players in Portland and do you wanna play next July ^^ ?

 

[Surreal]

The Portland area is where most of OR's melee scene is.

 

[indigestible_wad]

I'f you're staying in portland, you are guaranteed some melee.

 

[Peach Masta]

Alright guys. Smashfest next year. Clear your schedules

How's THAT for planning ahead

 

[porc]

ahah awesome

 

[KAOSTAR]

Alright guys. Smashfest next year. Clear your schedules

How's THAT for planning ahead

idk if I can make it. I think I got a doctor's appointment.

 

[keeper]

That'd be fun as hell.

 

[ChinesePanda777]

I had a dream I was about to play some Melee, and then I woke up... sad day.

Not to mention kinda pathetic lawl