The New Match-up Chart

[kys]

Wat.

10 wats.

 

[ciaza]

*hitting 1/1 parries is a lot easier than hitting 50/50*

 

[Battlecow]

I mean I'm not saying I could do it

but let's say he plays against predictable people and only parries every other match when he's really sure about it

it sounds like it'd be possible to almost never miss a parry

 

[The Star King]

He would gain very little from it then. It's not worth being that conservative.

 

[Battlecow]

K so he doesn't parry optimally

doesn't mean his original statement was incorrect

 

[TANK64]

I think it's pretty incorrect.

I'm going to bed now.

Pretty hype for Thanksgiving.

 

[The Star King]

K so he doesn't parry optimally

doesn't mean his original statement was incorrect

Why are you arguing this?

I know you know that's not what he meant. He stated he never misses parries right before saying he has decided Yoshi is "better than Mario and equal with Captain Falcon". He's clearly implying that the parrying is significant. If he was parrying only things that are 100% guaranteed (and in those situations it's usually better to deal with it with methods other than parrying anyways), then the advantage gained would NOT be significant. If you're parrying in a way to gain a sizable advantage, then yeah, you can't do it with 100% accuracy and me/Sheer/tacos/TANK are right (people who actually play Yoshi, what a coincidence!)

Please discuss his actual meaning, not a technicality.

 

[Battlecow]

I mean, I think what I said was what he meant. Unless he's just straight-up lying in a major way, he has some idea of how parries work, and the fact that he said "I can do it every time" rather than "I can parry everything that's thrown at me and am therefore an unstoppable smash god, move over boom" implies to me that he meant "every time I try it" rather than "every time anyone does a move on me"

 

[ballin4life]

only one way to settle this: have yobo make a video where he parries something 500 times in a row

 

[TJ.]

only one way to settle this: have yobo make a video where he parries something 500 times in a row

Seems like a must watch vid.

 

[clubbadubba]

only one way to settle this: have yobo make a video where he parries something 500 times in a row

takes friend to vs mode. Parries 500 falcon punches IN A ROW. Is best ever

 

[XKCP]

takes friend to vs mode. Parries 500 falcon punches IN A ROW. Is best ever

Do 1 take, setup frame perfect GIF on repeat, watch 500 times.

 

[prisonchild]

LOL, it is easy to never miss parries. All you have to do is tap z when a move is going to hit you, but that is probably not what you meant.

Let me break it down for you.
All characters have a certain amount of options within a specific situation of play

The overarching goal is to limit your opponent's options with spacing in order to limit uncertainty. You choose you opponent's options for them and parry them as they come.

The next thing to recognize is that a surprisingly high number of approach options are at least semi-telegraphed especially aerials. Your opponent's character's spacing says a lot about what they are going to do next.

The third and perhaps most important thing is frame counting. It helps a TON to find exactly how much a single frame is in real time and commit it to memory. The frame data chart becomes incredibly helpful here because you can count exactly when to parry every move.

It starts out hard, but quickly gets extremely easy. The best way to practice IMO is against CPU's because you are really forced to forget about you opponent's habits and just count frames.

wow. i suck and i'm confident i could beat you. without parrying.

 

[Yobolight]

wow. i suck and i'm confident i could beat you. without parrying.

why do you say this?

 

[prisonchild]

why do you say this?

because i wouldn't need to parry to beat you.

 

[RickySSB]

You don't need to do anything to beat a noob.

 

[B Link]

I miss sheermadness' lame prince-esque crouch and wait technique with yoshi. Yoshi mains need to start bringing this back into the metagame if they wanna be on par with lame kirbies.

 

[The Star King]

That's not a good tactic.

 

[clubbadubba]

no you aren't

 

[The Star King]

I'm not what?

 

[ciaza]

you aren't a good tactic

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

you aren't a good tactic

exactly, wut

To what was said before, let''s continue crouch walking...and just run into an up tilt eventually.

The only thing I've seen good vs. Kirby is to bait d-airs, b-airs, and u-tilts and punish with b-air or other djc/short hop aerials. What an annoying/bad matchup

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

be a man and djc nair through that uptilt

 

[asianaussie]

be a man and djc nair through everything

 

[Pooncahontas]

you couldn't DJC nair through Yobolight...

...you know, with his parries and all.

 

[asianaussie]

yeah, but i would be on the other side of hyrule hurling projectiles at him

because i can't play anybody except link and (sorta) kirby these days

 

[M!nt]

these days?

Spoiler

jking I dont know anything about you

 

[The Star King]

don't encourage him Mint

 

[B Link]

be a man and djc uair through that uptilt

wut

 

[asianaussie]

i once knew how to play pikachu

but now im missing aerial > z-cancel > grab so im bad

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

do you even dair

as link

 

[Olikus]

i dont think he dare.

haha

10haha

 

[asianaussie]

why would i need to d-air when i dont let them come near me

im missing d-air z-cancels a lot too

 

[B Link]

I don't always link platform drop dair, but when I do, it hits

 

[AtotheZ]

why would i need to d-air when i dont let them come near me

im missing d-air z-cancels a lot too

rapid tap z is the best strat, timing it is for losers

 

[The Star King]

timing z is the best strat, rapid tapping it is for losers

 

[B Link]

rapid tapping is for kb players

 

[The Star King]

rapid tapping is for kb players

my post seems to suggest otherwise...

 

[AtotheZ]

Single tap is pretty darn good, but it when it comes to getting some different drop speed from hitting a shield with a d-air, I usually fall back on the rapid tap. a couple clicks before you hit the ground does the trick since the window is so large.

 

[ballin4life]

rapid tap z is the best strat, timing it is for losers

Single tap is pretty darn good

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