Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!
You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!
lol 7 frames throws me off but you did pretty well
>?
read the smash index pleaseme said:
Mario's fireballs are better, Mario's recovery is better, Mario's short hop is way better, Mario's dash attack is better, Mario's airspeed is better, and a whole bunch of other marginal differences that come out on Mario's side and make him significantly better.Nobody answered my question. Why is
How do you use it effectively?
I'm so glad Tornado Spiking was included on this list. And if I remember correctly isn't Mario's D-Tilt hitbox extend past his animation?
except "just using Isai as the source" is exactly what you're doing here ...
what is Isai's new way of punishing floaties and are you sure it works on Samus?
What combos are you doing that can be interrupted by parry? Dair combos?
not if you know what you're doing. also I personally find this easier than timing grabs over and over but that's just me.
i don't know if this is what he was talking about but instead of the usual uair chains (which don't work well on floaties) isai will put in one or two uairs and then bring them back down with ff dair for an easy tech chase. i'm pretty sure it works on every floaty depending on how many uairs you try to get in, and it's followed by a pretty much guaranteed tech chase.
I was implying that I'm also judging from my own experience, but used Isai as my example.
As what prisonchild said, and you can also do more, given randomness/situation. Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4-Q_qGKMqA&feature=plcp and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9pJY0MAylww#t=145s for some visual examples. People like me and Boom have adapted it to our styles, and it makes Falcon a lot more fun to play.
This may sound like I'm reaching, but probably like the only combo I seen that finishes on Samus is a fair chain. And you can only get a fair chain sometimes... For your own reference, I didn't watch all of them but I remember watching some of your matches with Dark Rancorous, Fox vs Samus, and from what I remember they were very competitive, not a massacre at all.
Well dair counters parry but of course can be DI'd out of. Pretty much like all of them especially jab combos. You're safe however when Yoshi is being combo'd in the air.
Don't listen to this guy lolYeah, the dair to techchase has been around forever. That's not new lol.
Fox finishes Samus easy. Jab to usmash or uair, reverse bair to the same, fair to the same, uair at high percents. All attacks which are really, really easily set up by lasers. Samus can't do anything about a good laser game. And no, she can't just approach from above. Unless the Fox is really, really stupid.
I actually agree with Ballin' for once. Maybe the Mayans were right
agree with this and battlecow. although i think the dair -> nair -> continue combo is kinda situational and not important enough to swing which character is better at comboing samus.
I don't remember you ever disagreeing with me about anything...Fox finishes Samus easy. Jab to usmash or uair, reverse bair to the same, fair to the same, uair at high percents. All attacks which are really, really easily set up by lasers. Samus can't do anything about a good laser game. And no, she can't just approach from above. Unless the Fox is really, really stupid.
I actually agree with Ballin' for once. Maybe the Mayans were right
Who's been playing like that then? In my years of playing this game competitively, I've never seen anyone play like that until Isai started to. And it's more than just dairing then techchasing, it's basically connecting a series of coordinated attacks. And Kys and Battlecow definitely don't play like that
lol k, jump online anytime so i can prove you wrong with these MUs, and that goes for anyone who is up for the challenge.
That I'd most-likely do better against your Fox than your Falcon, and that I won't get destroyed by your Fox (unless it was just an off game). And you can show me these amazing Fox combos against Samus, while I can show you Falcon's advanced way of punishing Samus. I'll take on anyone who is up for the challenge, the more the experience, the better the ruling.
Meh... Don't get me wrong, not saying it isn't bad for Samus, just not as bad some people here say it is.
So samus is now top tier?!
Who's been playing like that then? In my years of playing this game competitively, I've never seen anyone play like that until Isai started to. And it's more than just dairing then techchasing, it's basically connecting a series of coordinated attacks. And Kys and Battlecow definitely don't play like that
lol k, jump online anytime so i can prove you wrong with these MUs, and that goes for anyone who is up for the challenge.
That I'd most-likely do better against your Fox than your Falcon, and that I won't get destroyed by your Fox (unless it was just an off game). And you can show me these amazing Fox combos against Samus, while I can show you Falcon's advanced way of punishing Samus. I'll take on anyone who is up for the challenge, the more the experience, the better the ruling.
That was just bad wording, we all make mistakes
Oh and, if you have that much of a doubt about online, take your time and practice till you're ready.
Don't listen to this guy lol
it's obviously been used before but not really implented in peoples' straegies to the extent that isai has.
Last couple of times I played him I used Pika and DK and I was the better man, but this time he got the best of me. Don't even have any johns, his way of playing Samus is just incredible. It's also possible he's gotten even better or was just completely in the zone, because he was really hard >_>
Oh ur so clever
