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gallax

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Holy shiiiii its wonderbread. Havent seen you since fl gaming in august two august' ago!!!

And it seems ive got some more training to do. People callin me up. Nice.
 

Tommy_G

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Damn, people can get on the PRs with one PR win nowadays?

I could be on the PR then.
Chaz is still questionable at this point. Unless Gallax has a sudden bout of inconsistency or some other major candidate comes on, he should be on, Mampam and GDX are very borderline at this point, and Red Halberd is a certainty.

Also, I like how SFL decides to stop coming to CFL after CFL starts going to SFL (major props to Mink).
I appreciate Mink for driving down and it was fantastic having him and his car down here, but it doesn't change the fact that CFL's overall tournament participation was lacking over the last 3 years. I think I've missed 3 CFL tournaments since Brawl's release whereas CFL has been to about that many SFL tournaments.
 

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Are you serious? Practicing with players from my region twice a week and only using MK against them is definitely training them. I dont adhere to your gay teachings, that doesn't mean I dont train my players, so don't get it twisted. If you want to see Tampa **** people then give them your spiel on how to be good, but don't blame me for my region being bad.

And its Midwest FL

Your hate for Seibrik is ****ing absurd and i hope you know that.
"Gay teachings" ? Really? Sorry we know how to train people effectively. Playing people and ****** them repeatedly isn't training at all.



End of story.
 

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Your hate for Seibrik is ****ing absurd and i hope you know that.
"Gay teachings" ? Really? Sorry we know how to train people effectively. Playing people and ****** them repeatedly isn't training at all.



End of story.
He's saying my region is bad because I'm not teaching them? Why doesn't he teach them and see how they quickly become amazing. You're assuming I dont teach my region because my region doesn't perform. So it's my fault, obviously.

If you think I don't teach people in my region specifics on reading people/adapting you're stupid, and wrong. It's not my fault if I **** everyone. I **** almost everyone in Orlando, I **** almost everyone in SFL too so it doesn't matter to me. But making statements like that when you don't live here is gonna quickly make me angry...

Why dont you trade spots with me? Come live in Tampa, I'll go to SFL, and watch how quickly I download and **** all your players. So don't give me that ****...
 

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He's saying my region is bad because I'm not teaching them? Why doesn't he teach them and see how they quickly become amazing. You're assuming I dont teach my region because my region doesn't perform. So it's my fault, obviously.

If you think I don't teach people in my region specifics on reading people/adapting you're stupid, and wrong. It's not my fault if I **** everyone. I **** almost everyone in Orlando, I **** almost everyone in SFL too so it doesn't matter to me. But making statements like that when you don't live here is gonna quickly make me angry...

Why dont you trade spots with me? Come live in Tampa, I'll go to SFL, and watch how quickly I download and **** all your players. So don't give me that ****...
Um...hes not teaching them because its your region and you should be leading them... >_>
 

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And I haven't been leading them? If my region doesn't place as well as SFL, obviously I'm doing something wrong, and SFL is doing something right? Okay broski.
 

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And I haven't been leading them? If my region doesn't place as well as SFL, obviously I'm doing something wrong, and SFL is doing something right? Okay broski.

Well wouldn't that be the thing? Not enough practice sessions?

As of good teachers SFL has:


Seibrik, ESAM, Nick Riddle, Afro, Tommy G
 

Tommy_G

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Well wouldn't that be the thing? Not enough practice sessions?

As of good teachers SFL has:


Seibrik, ESAM, Nick Riddle, Afro, Tommy G
I feel honored :)

"You should get infracted for double posting" clearly shows there was nothing else you had to say about my statement being incorrect but still wanted to punish me for posting. My post still stands.
 

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i still think tommy g should be infracted for double posting as the SWF global rules CLEARLY state that double posting will not be tolerated...swf mods are double post intolerant
 

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:laugh:

its pretty dumb for seibrik to call lade a bad teacher/non teacher at all because his region doesnt do as well overall as his. its pretty dumb for anyone to say that about any region actually. there are far too many factors with every single person within the "region" that has to be taught for anyone to come to that kind of wide conclusion.

no one would have any idea the mindsets, or ability to learn, or willingness to learn, or any other event in their life that would effect the ability of the smashers being "taught" to become better in this game. Seibrik has no right to say that to lade, as in the same turn lade wouldn't have the right to say that to someone in NFL, just because his region is better than theirs overall.

as far as the traveling thing, im honestly tired of it. I have told you guys probably literally a hundred times that as a region we are just not as able to travel as SFL on a consistent basis, for a wide variety of reasons. If they're going to just continue to ***** about it week after week, you know what? just dont come to the tourneys and shut up. I'll miss seeing all the cool SFL people i do like, (which is a large majority) but im honestly tired of seeing it week after week when theres nothing as a whole we can do about it. im pretty much saying deal with it. Take your PRs and your whining and just stay down there.

with that in mind, im glad gallax has taken the helm of being the teacher for CFL. honestly, im not a bad teacher, and I can use a variety of characters well enough for someone to learn a matchup (just ask nick how many matchups ive taught him over the years), but I have neither the spare time nor the paitence to use my weekdays for training. And weekends are tourneys so...yea. Maybe sundays since football is almost over. who knows
 

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So we should use the no tripping code after pound, i saw so many trips during important stuff at esam's tourny. Some of them people died from.

In case anyone missed it.
There's a way to run codes without hacked wii's. I tried it out it works, I just can't get past the gecko screen bc I use a hard drive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz7fk96wCGw&fmt=18

I updated the code folder with just the important stuff. Add these to an SD card

http://www.mediafire.com/?f7ppfzqh40z0bjr
-Save replays past 3 min
-Save Tags in Replays
-3 Stock/8 Min/TA On
-Allow More Than 1000 Replays/Stages/Snapshots

This one has the same codes + no tripping
http://www.mediafire.com/?jbsgb9y60gofnbe

For anyone that has a hacked wii and needs the code.

Tripping Rate Modifier (No Tripping)
0481CB34 C0220020
045A9340 00000000
If theres any important codes I should add let me know and I can update the links.
 

Sensei Seibrik

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Nah, it really comes down to....

the best players from CFL don't train their region

best players from Wfl(tampa) dont train their region....



Yeah, thats all
First of all, if you see here i never said i ASSUMED through getting poorer than sfl placings that it must be because of bad training.

I simply said they don't get good training, cause well, i hung out with them all weekend and that's all they complained about.

Besides, that post was a response to the players on PR (who beats who) not placings in tournies. If that matters at all....

All I'll say is this:

Meagan (m00g) has been living in tampa and participating in tournies for quite some time. Living within 10 min? of halz.

iPresea just joined that offline brawl scene... And their about equal in skill? (from what i've seen and whom they've played)

Damn, if i had the amazing "lade training" i would hope that i'd at least be a league or two above a wifi-warrior that never attended offline tournies before, starting natural skill asside.

I by no means mean no offense to either m00g or lexi, this is just an example of two seperate people from their region. One that "got lade training" and one who didn't.
 

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Why am I a good teacher? I'm terrible and only say specific MU things and obvious habits. I'm a terrible teacher...
 

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Why am I a good teacher? I'm terrible and only say specific MU things and obvious habits. I'm a terrible teacher...
every good player is assumed to be a good teacher until proven otherwise. just how it goes for anything in life that youre good at, really
 

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Meagan (m00g) has been living in tampa and participating in tournies for quite some time. Living within 10 min? of halz.

iPresea just joined that offline brawl scene... And their about equal in skill? (from what i've seen and whom they've played)

Damn, if i had the amazing "lade training" i would hope that i'd at least be a league or two above a wifi-warrior that never attended offline tournies before, starting natural skill asside.

I by no means mean no offense to either m00g or lexi, this is just an example of two seperate people from their region. One that "got lade training" and one who didn't.
Are you serious?

At my first tournament I went even with and beat people who were considered top players at the time. This was literally straight from wifi where my fingers weren't even adjusted to the difference in button delay. At my second tournament I went to MD/VA, and money matched and beat and went even with players like F0rte, K0rn, Slik Vik, Pyr0nic Star, Ne0 (who mostly ***** me) etc etc. At my 3rd tournament (January Gigs) you all know what happened. I ***** half of you mother****ers who had been to 30 tournaments and had hundreds of hours more experience then me. I beat your Dedede and Snake in money matches/did exceptional against Afro/***** everyone else. At my 4th tournament I ***** you in a money match, nearly beat Reflex and Kismet and 3 stocked chops. At my 5th tournament I beat you twice, and Hrnut.

All this while living in a region with no players who can beat me or have been close to getting on the PR (aside from my brother).

So tell me why all you guys who should've had an easy time wiping the floor with a "wifi warrior" like me couldn't do so? Everyone on the PR in SFL should be leagues above me, and should have consistently been since day one, but they arent, and never have been. Since January 09 I've easily been one of the best players in florida at any given time but you guys just didn't know because I didn't go to tournaments.

OH WAIT... I have the answer. YOUR PRACTICE SUCKS. You guys need to play with better players, that's why you don't **** me. You've been to at least 100 tournaments, I've been to closer to 10, and I'm still 3rd in the state and can beat most of you guys with my secondaries... YOU GUYS ARE STILL TERRIBLE. WTF I DONT UNDERSTAND IT.

Or maybe there's something terribly wrong with your logic... But wait you're Seibrik from SFL WHOS HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS. WHY? BECAUSE EVERYONE DOWN THERE IS GOOD. SO IT MUST BE THE GREAT TEACHINGS OF SEIBRIK THE BLUE GOD AND AFRO THE GOLDEN GOD.

And my region isn't as good as SFL because I'm a terrible teacher :awesome::awesome::awesome:
 

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He's saying my region is bad because I'm not teaching them? Why doesn't he teach them and see how they quickly become amazing. You're assuming I dont teach my region because my region doesn't perform. So it's my fault, obviously.

If you think I don't teach people in my region specifics on reading people/adapting you're stupid, and wrong. It's not my fault if I **** everyone. I **** almost everyone in Orlando, I **** almost everyone in SFL too so it doesn't matter to me. But making statements like that when you don't live here is gonna quickly make me angry...

Why dont you trade spots with me? Come live in Tampa, I'll go to SFL, and watch how quickly I download and **** all your players. So don't give me that ****...
For one, i didn't say you don't teach anyone. If Seibrik said that, address him, not me.

And for real, you probably practice brawl (and melee) more then me, in the past 3 or 4 weeks the only training i've gotten outside of tournaments is a trip to Taylor's house for a few hours and we played Punchout. So don't give me that "If i lived in SFL" excuse. Not everyone in SFL players each other all day every day.

None of that has anything to do with why Seibrik's teachings would be "gay". No one said that CFL or Tampa is bad, atleast not that i saw in the last few posts. What we DID say was that SFL was better. I'm sorry if that sucks to hear, but honestly...deal with it. Are you going to say it's not true? We have more players at a higher level then the rest of the state, that's just the way it is. You want to change it, then i say this to everyone, --practice and improve--. No one is saying that anyone else is bad, but it'd be bull**** to say that SFL isn't on top no matter how much you don't want to hear it.

Are you serious?

At my first tournament I went even with and beat people who were considered top players at the time. This was literally straight from wifi where my fingers weren't even adjusted to the difference in button delay. At my second tournament I went to MD/VA, and money matched and beat and went even with players like F0rte, K0rn, Slik Vik, Pyr0nic Star, Ne0 (who mostly ***** me) etc etc. At my 3rd tournament (January Gigs) you all know what happened. I ***** half of you mother****ers who had been to 30 tournaments and had hundreds of hours more experience then me. I beat your Dedede and Snake in money matches/did exceptional against Afro/***** everyone else. At my 4th tournament I ***** you in a money match, nearly beat Reflex and Kismet and 3 stocked chops. At my 5th tournament I beat you twice, and Hrnut.

All this while living in a region with no players who can beat me or have been close to getting on the PR (aside from my brother).

So tell me why all you guys who should've had an easy time wiping the floor with a "wifi warrior" like me couldn't do so? Everyone on the PR in SFL should be leagues above me, and should have consistently been since day one, but they arent, and never have been. Since January 09 I've easily been one of the best players in florida at any given time but you guys just didn't know because I didn't go to tournaments.

OH WAIT... I have the answer. YOUR PRACTICE SUCKS. You guys need to play with better players, that's why you don't **** me. You've been to at least 100 tournaments, I've been to closer to 10, and I'm still 3rd in the state and can beat most of you guys with my secondaries... YOU GUYS ARE STILL TERRIBLE. WTF I DONT UNDERSTAND IT.

Or maybe there's something terribly wrong with your logic... But wait you're Seibrik from SFL WHOS HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS. WHY? BECAUSE EVERYONE DOWN THERE IS GOOD. SO IT MUST BE THE GREAT TEACHINGS OF SEIBRIK THE BLUE GOD AND AFRO THE GOLDEN GOD.

And my region isn't as good as SFL because I'm a terrible teacher
Nice i like being included into arguements, when i didn't say anything to you regarding your skill or your teaching methods. You're getting way to upset about this for real. While your tournament history is very impressive, you fail to prove any real point regarding what Seibrik said. If you read his post, he clearly states that people from you region want to play you more so they can improve. How your tournament history relates to all that at all is beyond me.

Honestly these arguements are just getting ****ing stupid. You people argue over the most ridiculous ****. 2 years ago FL was united against everyone else now we bicker and argue over **** like "whos the best teacher?". I don't give a **** where you're from in FL to be honest. I want to see everyone in FL improve, not just my region. Honestly Seibrik if you want to be a good teacher you should feel the same and spreading discontent for whatever reason isn't doing that.

To SFL: Stop saying **** about CFL/Tampa not being able to travel. We are lucky that we can travel and can afford time to go to tournaments often. We also are rewarded for this, by having a very strong set of players. CFL or Tampa does not need to be constantly reminded that they should come to SFL, they get it, seriously stop saying it i'm from SFL and i'm tired of reading it i can only imagine how people from CFL/Tampa feel about it at this point.

To CFL/Tampa: If you are tired of the PR's being mostly SFL... then practice. Not just by travelling, but amongst each other. You don't need an amazing player to come and teach you. SFL does practice alot (not me i live an hour from everyone SADFACE), and for that they are rewarded. You want to see more of your region on the PR? You should do the same.

--Afro, Golden God
 

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Like ESAM said, amazing post Afro.

I agree with you 100% regarding the last 3 paragraphs.

In regards to CFL, Gallax has took it upon himself to be a mentor/teacher to all of CFL right now.
 

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I appreciate Mink for driving down and it was fantastic having him and his car down here, but it doesn't change the fact that CFL's overall tournament participation was lacking over the last 3 years. I think I've missed 3 CFL tournaments since Brawl's release whereas CFL has been to about that many SFL tournaments.
You've missed a lot more than 3 CFL tournaments. It's not a big deal, but you shouldn't act like you're at more CFL tournaments than CFL is haha.

I don't hold anything against SFL for not coming to CFL, but if Mink continues to drive to SFL then you can expect CFL to ride with him. I know for certain that dozens of CFL players want to go to SFL tournaments but just lack the means to do so.
 

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For one, i didn't say you don't teach anyone. If Seibrik said that, address him, not me.

And for real, you probably practice brawl (and melee) more then me, in the past 3 or 4 weeks the only training i've gotten outside of tournaments is a trip to Taylor's house for a few hours and we played Punchout. So don't give me that "If i lived in SFL" excuse. Not everyone in SFL players each other all day every day.

None of that has anything to do with why Seibrik's teachings would be "gay". No one said that CFL or Tampa is bad, atleast not that i saw in the last few posts. What we DID say was that SFL was better. I'm sorry if that sucks to hear, but honestly...deal with it. Are you going to say it's not true? We have more players at a higher level then the rest of the state, that's just the way it is. You want to change it, then i say this to everyone, --practice and improve--. No one is saying that anyone else is bad, but it'd be bull**** to say that SFL isn't on top no matter how much you don't want to hear it.
SFL ***** Tampa and CFL. Where did I say anything else? I only said Seibrik/SFL is hella tripping if he's blaming me for my regions "apparent failure". And that's exactly what both of you implied I might add.

And me playing more than you is irrelevant as you get FARRRR better experience than I do every other weekend compared to the experience I get once or twice a week. I wont say anymore because I can't without dissing my own region further.

Nice i like being included into arguements, when i didn't say anything to you regarding your skill or your teaching methods. You're getting way to upset about this for real. While your tournament history is very impressive, you fail to prove any real point regarding what Seibrik said. If you read his post, he clearly states that people from you region want to play you more so they can improve. How your tournament history relates to all that at all is beyond me.

Honestly these arguements are just getting ****ing stupid. You people argue over the most ridiculous ****. 2 years ago FL was united against everyone else now we bicker and argue over **** like "whos the best teacher?". I don't give a **** where you're from in FL to be honest. I want to see everyone in FL improve, not just my region. Honestly Seibrik if you want to be a good teacher you should feel the same and spreading discontent for whatever reason isn't doing that.

To SFL: Stop saying **** about CFL/Tampa not being able to travel. We are lucky that we can travel and can afford time to go to tournaments often. We also are rewarded for this, by having a very strong set of players. CFL or Tampa does not need to be constantly reminded that they should come to SFL, they get it, seriously stop ****ing saying it i'm from SFL and i'm tired of reading it i can only imagine how people from CFL/Tampa feel about it at this point.

To CFL/Tampa: If you are tired of the PR's being mostly SFL... then practice. Not just by travelling, but amongst each other. You don't need an amazing player to come and teach you. SFL does practice alot (not me i live an hour from everyone SADFACE), and for that they are rewarded. You want to see more of your region on the PR? You should do the same.

--Afro, Golden God
There's no point in us arguing about this. I'm pretty sure you know what I believe and it's different from what you believe.

And excuse my lack of morale, as I grew up without the rest of FL and don't attribute my ability to anyone other than myself. If I didn't exist, FL would still ****, SFl still would have ***** at MLGs. If you guys didn't exist I'd still be ****. I trained myself and don't have any sort of "mentorship conneciton" that all you guys acquired back when the game was coming out. So I just don't feel attached competitively to any of that. So I don't care about FL coming together and all that superficial bull****. I love most of you guys in SFL and most of you in CFL but right now all I care about is Tampa, and I'll take care of Tampa, my way...
 

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It's an old tech. You can get a momentum boost when you do certain things out of dropping a grenade (grenade boost grab or sidestep).
 

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SFL ***** Tampa and CFL. Where did I say anything else? I only said Seibrik/SFL is hella tripping if he's blaming me for my regions "apparent failure". And that's exactly what both of you implied I might add.

And me playing more than you is irrelevant as you get FARRRR better experience than I do every other weekend compared to the experience I get once or twice a week. I wont say anymore because I can't without dissing my own region further.

There's no point in us arguing about this. I'm pretty sure you know what I believe and it's different from what you believe.

And excuse my lack of morale, as I grew up without the rest of FL and don't attribute my ability to anyone other than myself. If I didn't exist, FL would still ****, SFl still would have ***** at MLGs. If you guys didn't exist I'd still be ****. I trained myself and don't have any sort of "mentorship conneciton" that all you guys acquired back when the game was coming out. So I just don't feel attached competitively to any of that. So I don't care about FL coming together and all that superficial bull****. I love most of you guys in SFL and most of you in CFL but right now all I care about is Tampa, and I'll take care of Tampa, my way...
I completely support you taking care of Tampa.
 

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To SFL: Stop saying **** about CFL/Tampa not being able to travel. We are lucky that we can travel and can afford time to go to tournaments often. We also are rewarded for this, by having a very strong set of players. CFL or Tampa does not need to be constantly reminded that they should come to SFL, they get it, seriously stop saying it i'm from SFL and i'm tired of reading it i can only imagine how people from CFL/Tampa feel about it at this point.
It's not only about them getting it. It doesn't seem like they know how to show they get it. It's just disrespectful when we travel so often and get all of this experience(I am using we loosely because I haven't personally entered a tournament in a long time.) only to be shot down by CFL complaining about stupid stuff like the PRs(yes, I believe the PRs are a negative thing.)

Maybe if they showed a little bit more respect for SFL constantly driving up to attend their tournaments, it wouldn't be as much of a problem. This is obviously a blanket term and there are a few not under the blanket, for example, hospitality of those when we travel for 2-4 hours each direction. I don't think it's right that the norm is for SFL to cater to CFL's tournaments by being expected to drive up there. All of CFL is fun and cool to hang out with, but I have a huge problem with the above attitudes. The only way I'm driving to CFL now is either for other personal reasons(wanting to attend a convention there) or having a full car paying at least $15 per person for gas and wear and tare on the car.

Need I remind you, GDX(being legit as hell) drove to my clubhouse tournament alone. Even with transportation and it being only half way to ZP, the majority of CFL doesn't care enough to put in the effort.
 

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I don't think CFL is really complaining about splitting the PRs anymore... the only person I remember posting it was RedHalberd and idk if he was serious
 
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