The new and improved NORTH CAROLINA locator thread

[lord karn]

ROB loses to Marth, in my opinion. A few of the good ROBs think that ROB has the advantage, but it seems like the ones who play good Marths think otherwise. Marth has too much pressure, so it's too difficult to actually get away and camp a good Marth.

ROB loses to DDD, because of the chain grab and easy up tilt kills. If ROB plays a really tight game, it's not so bad, but ROBs mistakes are really easily punishable. On the other hand, DDD is difficult to punish with anything good, and can pressure you just by running at you and shielding.

ROB loses to G&W pretty badly according to most ROBs. I've never played any of the good G&Ws, but I've never found the match-up too bad. I think ROB needs to be more aggressive than most ROBs out there play. Definitely in G&W's favor, but I don't think it's as bad as most ROBs think.

ROB gets ***** by Metaknight. Undoubtedly his hardest matchup. Nothing much to say other than Meta is ********.

ROB beats snake because of edgeguarding, pressure, and lasers blow up grenades.

ROB beats Falco, in my opinion. Bair goes through Falco's forward b, and kills him really easily. Pressuring Falco is relatively easy, and Falco has a hard time killing ROB because he's nearly ungimpable. Another match where ROB needs to be aggressive. Also, ROB isn't chaingrabbed for that long.

I have no idea about Kirby.

I think ROB beats Lucario due to pressure.

ROB also beats DK, Olimar, Ike, ZS, and most everyone below Marth.

ROB has several bad match-ups, but he also beats a good amount of characters. Having ROB as a secondary is better than having Marth as a secondary, in my opinion. It just seems to me that Marth has match-ups similar to Metaknight, but just worse.

Unless Metaknight is banned, the tier list should probably be influenced a lot around who is a good secondary behind Metaknight. Or, if you refuse to play Meta, who you can play other than one of the few characters that does alright against Meta. Marth seems to fall into the second category better than the first.

If you can't tell, I think Metaknight is gay. I'm also trying to main him now.

 

[l0zR=)]

Karn!!!! My vcr is still at your dads, and my gamecube. I need it badddddd. I may come get it sooooooon

 

[lord karn]

Karn!!!! My vcr is still at your dads, and my gamecube. I need it badddddd. I may come get it sooooooon

Ok. My dad's number is 919-810-7946. Call him or something.

 

[ZIO]

Not without me, son. I'm coming with you!

 

[Zero_Gamer]

Actually Lucario is just gay... no... not just gay... he's like a super hero of gaydom... and pants.

He can't be CG'd by Falco (anti-homo physics), his BAS actually have more damage output than R.O.B.'s laser (which is gay), he combos like a son of a gun (a gay one, har har), he CGs like a homo up to 60% on Snake, Wolf, Dedede, DK, Shiek, Captain Falcon (wtf?! why?) and up to 40% on Falco, Link, and Fox,
... Now I see why you hate me Dark Hart D:

P.S. I'm STILL so nooby in Melee! I need practice with humans!

 

[Vilt]

Actually Lucario is just gay... no... not just gay... he's like a super hero of gaydom... and pants.

He can't be CG'd by Falco (anti-homo physics), his BAS actually have more damage output than R.O.B.'s laser (which is gay), he combos like a son of a gun (a gay one, har har), he CGs like a homo up to 60% on Snake, Wolf, Dedede, DK, Shiek, Captain Falcon (wtf?! why?) and up to 40% on Falco, Link, and Fox,
... Now I see why you hate me Dark Hart D:

P.S. I'm STILL so nooby in Melee! I need practice with humans!

quit living in kernersville and move to G'boro son.

 

[-mugen-]

I only think Robot has serious trouble with G&W and Meta. I still kind of feel like Marth is an even match...
Ledge camp when you play D3, and he's not as bad. F-tilt the **** out of him.

Vilt, do you play Brawl?

 

[Malk]

I feel like metaknight

 

[Malk]

I feel really gay

 

[lord karn]

hahahahahahaha

 

[Dr Peepee]

Once again, I believe with the vast majority of what you sau here Karn. ...you're gonna play MK now? This'll be fun. My worst matchup finally coming: Karn's MK and Ali's Snake. I'm gonna have to find a way to play gayer...

Mugen, I'm thinking that I'll just show you why the Marth vs ROB matchup sucks so bad when we meet aight lol.

 

[-mugen-]

Lol, yes dude. Please do. I really don't have a lot of first hand experience on the match up (I do, but not with anyone who's actually good), so my opinion really doesn't mean a lot. I'm basically going on what I know about both characters, which always isn't the right decision (especially since I'm biased towards R.O.B.) and an Overswarm vs. Emblem Lord debate. Also foolish...

Anyone here do the whole no-tripping thing SD card thing... ?? Marth will be like 8 times funner.

 

[lord karn]

I don't know if Overswarm has ever actually fought a really good Marth.

 

[-mugen-]

Has Emblem Lord played a good ROB? The only ROBs I see do well in big tourneys are on the West Coast and Overswarm. I haven't seen your ROB, but I imagine you haven't played Emblem Lord. Anyway, that is a valid point.

 

[Dr Peepee]

Emblem Lord does not play Brawl too much. He actually dislikes it lol. He only goes by character statistics and matchup strategies, not by personal experience as he said M2K does. That's why his own matchup experience is irrelevant.

I wish I had a no tripping code, but I dunno how to mess with any of that lol. Marth is still fun, he just can't do everything without falling on his face sometimes lol.

Overswarm and Emblem Lord are reallllly different. I'm biased as well, so I'll just say that you shouldn't take too much stock in what they say(at least in that debate), and just see how our matches play out.

 

[lord karn]

I've never played Emblem Lord.

Does the no-tripping code eliminate downtilt trips?

 

[Dr Peepee]

It does not. The only tripping eliminated is the random one.

EL considers himself an "average player," so beating him wouldn't mean much. He's more into analyzing the game.

 

[-mugen-]

I'm going to go so far as to say that at the moment, Marth is possibly the most fun character in Brawl. He's ridiculously satisfying to use, but foxtrotting, dash dancing, and wavelanding would be much more enjoyable without this tripping bull****.

 

[Dr Peepee]

People are finally starting to see the light!
I also play more defensively because of the fact that tripping could screw me over. It also helps that Marth is better on defense too lol.

 

[Speedsk8er]

I'm going to go so far as to say that at the moment, Marth is possibly the most fun character in Brawl. He's ridiculously satisfying to use, but foxtrotting, dash dancing, and wavelanding would be much more enjoyable without this tripping bull****.

Interesting.... Because I found Marth incredibly boring and much more fun in Melee...

>_____________>

But what do I know? I main IC.


And I run around alot as IC because their trip is so **** cute. O_O I can't even get mad at them if they trip during a CG.

 

[ptown]

brawl is meant to be played with items on, timed(infinite stock), 4-player ffa/teams.

this way, it more accurately shows its true colors i.e. brawl, not as a true fighting game, but actually as a totally different genre:

party-fight-racing.

and marth is about holding forward on the control stick and hitting A or B.

 

[-mugen-]

Lol... god I hate you guys...

I'd let Brawl get messed around with a little more before I say that, though, although I do not completely disagree. Have you ever played melee lately without wavedashing or l-cancelling? It's just Brawl. Some exploits were found out and then bam you have a super fast placed fighting game that all of the sudden takes a lot of skill.

 

[Speedsk8er]

Lol... god I hate you guys...

I'd let Brawl get messed around with a little more before I say that, though, although I do not completely disagree. Have you ever played melee lately without wavedashing or l-cancelling? It's just Brawl. Some exploits were found out and then bam you have a super fast placed fighting game that all of the sudden takes a lot of skill.

See, I said nothing about either game(although I do prefer Melee). All I said was that I found Marth incredibly boring in Brawl, the same way I find Zelda incredibly boring in Melee. Let's not turn this into a Melee vs Brawl debate. Because those are never fun.

And BTW, you're wrong about Brawl being Melee without L-canceling and wavedashing.

 

[lord karn]

Brawl Marth is incredibly boring to me.

 

[Speedsk8er]

Brawl Marth is incredibly boring to me.

See?

People are finally starting to see the light!

10toldyousos

 

[Malk]

marth is only fun to play against ness

 

[-mugen-]

And BTW, you're wrong about Brawl being Melee without L-canceling and wavedashing.

I said melee without l-cancelling and wavedashing looks the same as Brawl. Just watch a really nooby match on Youtube. I forgot for a second that I was watching a melee match at one point.

Lol, and I was messin with the hating thing.

 

[Speedsk8er]

I said melee without l-cancelling and wavedashing looks the same as Brawl. Just watch a really nooby match on Youtube. I forgot for a second that I was watching a melee match at one point.

Well, that's because scrubs play Melee and Brawl the same....

>_____________>

 

[POM]

I said melee without l-cancelling and wavedashing looks the same as Brawl. Just watch a really nooby match on Youtube. I forgot for a second that I was watching a melee match at one point.

Lol, and I was messin with the hating thing.

you're ****in dumbbbbb, even without that melee is the better game. just look at the ledge system of brawl...********.

 

[-mugen-]

Lol dude... wtf. I'm only talking about the speed of the game. A melee match with just the bare noobiness looks similar to Brawl.

 

[l0zR=)]

melee is a mans game. and takes more skill to play. although i like brawl just not as much. Melee brought us all together as friends before brawl came out =P so melee is better hehe

 

[Pyrostormer]

AND I'm number 1 in that game.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

Snake was going to be in Melee, but there wasn't enough time. He would have sucked anyway, weight can't save you in that game!

I too prefer Melee over Brawl, I love the clackety clack clack of hitting multiple buttons in rapid succession and the fast pacing. Plus, I feel a greater need to practice in that game than I do in Brawl. I love both games though.

 

[Vilt]

Melee! Rawr!

 

[Dr Peepee]

Lol Jim, you did decide to say it. You have a new disc yet?

Auto cancelling and fall speed still makes Melee a little faster-paced than Brawl(nit picky I guess lol). It doesn't really matter though, because we'll use them in Melee anyways.

On that subject, I too like Melee above Brawl, but Brawl is aight in its' own way. I just can't get very excited over Brawl though.

Speedsk8er, when we goin to IHOP again bro? That junk is toooooo gooood!!

 

[Dark Hart]

PP, you come to Raleigh, and we will get a large group of Smashers, have a Smashfest, and go to IHOP. You're always welcome to stay at my place, so long as we tell my parents how long I'll be out next time. =P

 

[Vilt]

Ihop. That place is banging. I got the servers to sing Behr a birthday song one time. He got this ice cream thing. It was mad good

 

[-mugen-]

Ihop hates black people.

 

[Dr Peepee]

DH: You suck bro lol. Raleigh is tooooo farrrr!!!! Maybe at least Gboro lol. I'll try to get to Raleigh soon in all seriousness. I'm still critiquing that match vs Jiggz eventuallly lol. You been practicing?

Vilt: I dunno why, but I laughed pretty hard at that. Good stuff.

Mugen: nuh uhhhh!!! Ask killz or whodat or Toasty....oohhhh ask Speedsk8er! He loves it there! You have to go with the right people at the right time is all.

 

[Vilt]

Man i need to pratice my whoppers more. God get outta high school Mask.