TLMSheikant
Smash Master
Nice team idea. Calibur never thought of that. And im very creative in teams XD.
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The Never Ending List of Toon's AT's and Tricks / The Data Dump / Song of Brainstorms
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Tried that, you throw the bomb >.<
It's like almost impossible to grab with a bomb everything ends up with tink throwing the bomb,
thinking about it grabbing with a bomb would be kind of stupid because the bomb would blow up on you while holding you're opponent which would be kind of pointless
No no no. If we did find a way to grab with a Bomb (hypothetically) then it definately would be useful. If our opponent is P1 and we are P2, P3 or P4, if the Bomb explodes while we are still holding them, we both get damage but we don't get any knockback or hitstun. Which equals a free hit/re-grab. We might even be able to throw them then instantly throw the Bomb at them and possibly get a re-grab or something.
If it is possible then it's probably just a massive glitch, kinda like Hyro's broke shot thing. Our grab does strange things so it might just be possible, just not necessarily re-create able
If it is possible then it's probably just a massive glitch, kinda like Hyro's broke shot thing. Our grab does strange things so it might just be possible, just not necessarily re-create able
Ok... How about I make a temporary section which is dedicated to figuring out how to grab with a Bomb? It's very simple. It will be a list of things that we have tried and are absolutely sure don't work. That way we won't be waisting any time re-trying things that someone else has already crossed off the list. It will make it so much easier.
It is in this way that we will find out once and for all.
So all you have to do is test a few ideas VERY thoroughly then let me know exactly what you tried and I will (quickly check it myself XD then...) add this to the list of things that don't work.
Yes or no?
It is in this way that we will find out once and for all.
So all you have to do is test a few ideas VERY thoroughly then let me know exactly what you tried and I will (quickly check it myself XD then...) add this to the list of things that don't work.
Yes or no?
Sasuke: You forget that I also spent countless hours trying to find a way. I just think that this would be the best way to finally put it behind us.
Corpsecreate
Smash Lord
"Running SMS
How to Perform: In truth it's not really a 'Running' SMS, it's more of a 'Jogging' SMS. This is because instead of Running, you will need to Tilt Run or 'Jog' so to speak. This is because you can't throw the Boomerang Backwards straight out of a Run but you can throw it Backwards straight out of a Tilted Run. Right, Tilt Run in one direction, Hit Backwards B then instantly hit Forwards."
This is wrong, you can throw a boomerang backwards out of a run using a B-reversal.
How to Perform: In truth it's not really a 'Running' SMS, it's more of a 'Jogging' SMS. This is because instead of Running, you will need to Tilt Run or 'Jog' so to speak. This is because you can't throw the Boomerang Backwards straight out of a Run but you can throw it Backwards straight out of a Tilted Run. Right, Tilt Run in one direction, Hit Backwards B then instantly hit Forwards."
This is wrong, you can throw a boomerang backwards out of a run using a B-reversal.
I know that!
You know what I mean..... Right?
Edit: The Running B-reversal is technically throwing it forward then turning around. So it's not throwing it backwards straight away, if you know what I mean.... besides, you can't SMS a B-reversal.
So my statement still stands.
You know what I mean..... Right?
Edit: The Running B-reversal is technically throwing it forward then turning around. So it's not throwing it backwards straight away, if you know what I mean.... besides, you can't SMS a B-reversal.
So my statement still stands.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
I don't know...Everytime I spend time trying to find a way to do it, it gets more discouraging...I don't think it's possible
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It IS impossible. All you can do is throw, shield, jump, and move when you're standing with a bomb. You can only catch with the A button while in the ground, and when in the ground, the grab button turns into throw. You can't throw out of a shield, and you can't do anything similar to the F-Smash w/ Bomb trick. There is pretty much nothing you can do.
TLMSheikant
Smash Master
^ This. Give up ppl. There is just no possible sane way to do the grab with a bomb stuffz. TL cant grab with a bomb.
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
I agree. Not only is there no proof it's possible, there's no proof the people who claim they did it actually saw it correctly.
Supersun
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I could of just missed it somewhere but I didn't see anything about grabbing near/on an exploding C4. If you are a higher controller port and the C4 explodes while you have an opponent grabbed they are the only one to receive the hitstun and knockback. It's easiest to do at higher percentages but the bomb then tends to knock them kind of far. It's best at lower percentages but trying to time the grab to the exploding bomb while they are trying to break the throw makes it kind of difficult.
You can follow up this with mostly whatever the heck you want but you have to keep in mind where the bomb is. If the bomb is in front of the other person he will fly forward (at low percents you can regrab). If the bomb is behind the other person he'll fly behind you (this can combo into bair <3).
There are also some neat tricks you can do with 2 C4s on the ground. Like you can try to time them so that you can do the grab multiple times or you can just grab the bomb and follow up with whatever move you want.
I've been messing around with the Dthrow for a bit with the exploding C4. If you input the throw kinda early the bomb will explode (before the throw damage registers) and knock you the distance of the exploding bomb and the other person won't really receive knockback (not sure if they get the hitstun or not you definitely do). If you input the command later you receive the knockback of the bomb while he receives the knockback of the throw (not sure if he receives damage from both).
I'm not sure how any of this practical but it's just a silly trick to mess with.
(PS: C4 in here means a bomb dropped on the ground. I wasn't going to type "a bomb that has been dropped the ground" every time when I could just say C4
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You can follow up this with mostly whatever the heck you want but you have to keep in mind where the bomb is. If the bomb is in front of the other person he will fly forward (at low percents you can regrab). If the bomb is behind the other person he'll fly behind you (this can combo into bair <3).
There are also some neat tricks you can do with 2 C4s on the ground. Like you can try to time them so that you can do the grab multiple times or you can just grab the bomb and follow up with whatever move you want.
I've been messing around with the Dthrow for a bit with the exploding C4. If you input the throw kinda early the bomb will explode (before the throw damage registers) and knock you the distance of the exploding bomb and the other person won't really receive knockback (not sure if they get the hitstun or not you definitely do). If you input the command later you receive the knockback of the bomb while he receives the knockback of the throw (not sure if he receives damage from both).
I'm not sure how any of this practical but it's just a silly trick to mess with.
(PS: C4 in here means a bomb dropped on the ground. I wasn't going to type "a bomb that has been dropped the ground" every time when I could just say C4
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Sosuke
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Summary
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General
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Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
Lulz at AT picture
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
He's firing his lazors...
also... FIRST!
also... FIRST!
Oh nice the pictures are working again! I'll add them now.
Thanks Sasuke.
Now...
Thanks Supersun, but it's known.
We need to find out how to shoot lasers!!! Hellz yeah!
Edit: Dang it! XD I just noticed, it's not supposed to be "Advanced Techniques" it's supposed to be "AT Videos" or "Advanced Technique Videos"
Um, sorry sasuke? Does it really matter? Oh I dunno, I'll just add it for now.
Edit 2: Dang it again! You must've forgotten the Bombs picture XD. Ok, I'll add what there is for now. Did you need me to send you the Bombs picture again, or do you still have it? Just let me know.
Ok, I think that's it.
Thanks Sasuke.
Now...
Thanks Supersun, but it's known.
I would have thought that this was obvious.
We need to find out how to shoot lasers!!! Hellz yeah!
Edit: Dang it! XD I just noticed, it's not supposed to be "Advanced Techniques" it's supposed to be "AT Videos" or "Advanced Technique Videos"
Um, sorry sasuke? Does it really matter? Oh I dunno, I'll just add it for now.
Edit 2: Dang it again! You must've forgotten the Bombs picture XD. Ok, I'll add what there is for now. Did you need me to send you the Bombs picture again, or do you still have it? Just let me know.
Ok, I think that's it.
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
For bombs just get a shot of his entrance.
Sosuke
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demonictoonlink
Smash Master
He's still firn his lazors...
Ok I fixed the AT videos picture. Now I just need the Bombs picture. Let me know when it's ready.
(Thanks again!)
(Thanks again!)
Sure thing, one sec...........
Sosuke
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Nice! Ok I'll just add it now. And we're all done, for now.
Pho
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Just sent it to you again. It should be just a 30 second clip.
Sync_
Smash Journeyman
Jungle Japes does have a platform you can go through, so it works there. ;D
Just wanted to point it out.
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
Well I did some testing and by dropping a bomb in front of the opponent and fast falling down behind where they were (ideally under where they are in the air after the bomb) you can utilt them for a true two-hit combo up to 92%.
This is based off the discussion that took place in the "What do you think of Toon Link's ranking" thread from posts 138-147.
I'd like to move this discussion here as well because testing is far from completed. This was tested only on a Mario in training mode (so I wouldn't have to make him recover >_>) and only tested on FD. This means I have no clue what the max % this works until is on other characters. I also don't know if this is affected by platforms.
If anyone wants to help (or just can and is a nice person) send me a visitor message saying what you're willing to do.
This is based off the discussion that took place in the "What do you think of Toon Link's ranking" thread from posts 138-147.
I'd like to move this discussion here as well because testing is far from completed. This was tested only on a Mario in training mode (so I wouldn't have to make him recover >_>) and only tested on FD. This means I have no clue what the max % this works until is on other characters. I also don't know if this is affected by platforms.
If anyone wants to help (or just can and is a nice person) send me a visitor message saying what you're willing to do.
TraiPhorce9001
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Add Bair to DJ to Dair DI to the list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvndKqyTqbU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvndKqyTqbU
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
That looks incredible!
How much longer can we survive using that (on average)?
How much longer can we survive using that (on average)?
TraiPhorce9001
Smash Cadet
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So is bair to fastfall better?