The Most Controversial Thread on the Site! (Originally the Anti-Lucario/Pro Squirtle)

[dynamic_entry]

well i know ivysaur should have leech seed, vine whip, and razorleaf. tackle would be a good dash A attack, but anything past that i don't know


charizard's final smash should be siesmic toss and squirtles should be tidal wave

vine whip could be up B and act like a heli-chopper-machine! YEA!

 

[Dizzynecro]

I agree with this. I think lots of people do, seeing as that was the gen that EVERYONE got into.

I still don't think they deserve all the **** spotlight.

no maybe not all but most right? maybe one 3rd or 4th gen?

 

[kaid]

no maybe not all but most right? maybe one 3rd or 4th gen?

That's right. 1-2 "newer" characters, Pikachu, Mewtwo, and Trainer.

 

[9Kplus1]

1st gen- Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, Mewtwo

2nd Gen- Pichu


3rd Gen- Gardevoir, Vigoroth

4thgen- Lucario, Weavile.

 

[Princess Diana]

1st gen- Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, Mewtwo

2nd Gen- Pichu


3rd Gen- Gardevoir, Vigoroth

4thgen- Mime Jr., Weavile.

Fix'd.....

 

[SuperSmashKing009]

Fix'd.....

What the hell are you doing replacing Mime Jr. for Lucario you should replace Pichu for Mime JR.

 

[kaid]

Just cause you hate a character is no reason to disrespect him, Megadio...

 

[Bassoonist]

Pichu shouldn't return. I'm thinking there would be a better rep of some sort for the second generation, you know maybe one that isn't a clone.

Second generation is my favorite, so I'd love to see a Pokemon from it, but not Pichu.

 

[ClarkJables]

if mime jr. had teeter dance i would never stop playing him, also vigoroth would pwn if he made it in

 

[9Kplus1]

Oh wait, Forgot Mime Jr.


Riolu for Brawl as Pichu's replacement!

 

[Dizzynecro]

1st gen- Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, Mewtwo, JIGGLYPUFF

2nd Gen- NOT PICHU GOD PLEASE


3rd Gen- ZANGOOSE

4thgen- Lucario, Weavile.

fixed better also maye mime junior

 

[ClarkJables]

id rather have vigoroth then zangoose

 

[kaid]

I think you may be missing the obvious...

 

[9Kplus1]

Both are good, stat-wise, but Vigoroth actually has an evolution and a good Movepool to choose from.

 

[SuperSmashKing009]

1st gen- Pikachu, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, Mewtwo

2nd gen- Scizor, Ursaring

3rd gen-Zangoose, Vigoroth, Medicham

4th gen- Lucario, Weavile, Gallade

 

[dynamic_entry]

I think you may be missing the obvious...

yeah, i was baffled by that ridiculous oversight aswell. hes only the icon of the franchise, but what the hell?

 

[ClarkJables]

and put munchlax on the 4th gne slot, he s emensily popular in japan and most say he is the mascot of 4th gen pokemon

 

[Princess Diana]

I wanna make a list then

First Gen- Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, Jigglypuff

Second Gen- Nobody...

Third Gen- Gardevoir

Fourth Gen- Mime Jr., Munchlax, and Weavile i guess

 

[ClarkJables]

add vigoroth for 3rd gen and for second gen you could do pulse and minon (not much of a step up i know) or that dog with the painters tail

 

[Princess Diana]

add vigoroth for 3rd gen and for second gen you could do pulse and minon (not much of a step up i know) or that dog with the painters tail

Lol you mean Smeargle... Smeargle can only learn one move... Which is sketch... Sketch permanently copies the last move used... So i don't think he'd have a good moveset...

 

[9Kplus1]

add vigoroth for 3rd gen and for second gen you could do pulse and minon (not much of a step up i know) or that dog with the painters tail

Plusle and Minun are the Ice Climbers 0_o and you're thinking of Smeargle.

 

[ClarkJables]

yah you do have a point, my knowladge of pokemon stops after 1st gen

 

[Dizzynecro]

no way heracross for 2nd gen!

 

[SuperSmashKing009]

no way heracross for 2nd gen!

all Heracross has is a horn.

 

[dynamic_entry]

all Heracross has is a horn.

herscross will "horn" you if you dont shaddap!

 

[Dizzynecro]

herscross will "horn" you if you dont shaddap!

no way hes fighting bug he can also punch you in the face and he has wings, beetle wings. he could make annoying buzzing noises when he jumps.

 

[SuperSmashKing009]

herscross will "horn" you if you dont shaddap!

you should shut up cause you must have a baby horn between you legs thats going to get cut off by your mom so dont be insulting people.

 

[drewdizzal]

so lucario is a fighting dog? aren't those........illegal?

 

[PyrasTerran]

technically the concept of making animals fight each other for fame and fortune is pretty illegal.

 

[MageNinja]

I won't say anything about Squirtle, but not wanting to give Lucario a chance is like saying anyone that has muscles aren't meant for Brawl. Besides, muscles is one thing Brawl needs and Captain Falcon ain't enough to fill that spot.

Be happy, because your dream came true and Squirtle is playable in Brawl.

 

[ylink_underestimted]

@MageNinja: he has muscles??? *sigh* just like everyone says, Lucario's main reason for wanting in Brawl is because of how he looks. i mean i do want him in, but his looks are the last reason why i want him in.
1. he has a likely moveset that could get him into Brawl. the Squirtle one in the beginning is cool n all, but seriously, Lucario is a Steel/FIGHTING type. wut sand_man said in the beginning with fighting types being boring, well ok thats his opinion. IMO, isnt Brawl supposed to be about fighting, hence the name Brawl? ok some people could say that with something different could be more unique, but that still doesnt change the fact that the game is about fighting basically.
2. he is popular was popular as hell in Japan
3. he was one of the first shown 4th gen pokemon
4. he looks cool

 

[Zook]

so lucario is a fighting dog? aren't those........illegal?

He's a jackal.

It's too bad the the pokemon get tired from fighting if you don't switch out. It may become very hard to just master one of them.

 

[dynamic_entry]

you should shut up cause you must have a baby horn between you legs thats going to get cut off by your mom so dont be insulting people.

o golly, you emasculated me. well played sir, going straight for the genitals!

also, saying he will "horn" you is actually an implied threat, not an insult.

/applause

 

[DarkKry4]

Lucario looks tore up. He does not look badass. He looks lame.

 

[Eaode]

Squirtle is confirmed, ut your reasons agains Lucario are stupid. Nothing unique? He has the freaking wave guiding bomb, and Endure would be one of the most unique moves in the game.

Pretty much all your squirtle A moves are borrowed from other charcters like Bowser, Pikachu and Marth for example. So wa if he attack with water? that really only makes things look different, it doesn't really revolutionize anything.


And plus Lucario is really popular in Japan. He's got a Movie, Backpacks, Plushies, keychains, etc.


I don't see wy we can't have Lucario in the game in addition to PT squirtle.

 

[ylink_underestimted]

Lucario looks tore up. He does not look badass. He looks lame.

any other lame arguments as to why you dont him in? or is this just your opinion? please do tell

 

[Vali]

any other lame arguments as to why you dont him in? or is this just your opinion? please do tell

Infact you saying that his argument is lame is merely your own opinion too. Sorry, I'm in one of those moods ^^.

 

[Xerroo]

Honestly. I'm glad Squirtle got in as a playable character. I'm also happy that Charizard was upgraded to Playable status. Him, Squirtle, and Ivysaur should be proud of their new rank as Playable Characters.

As for Lucario I'm sorry but I think he would be good for Brawl.

 

[ylink_underestimted]

Infact you saying that his argument is lame is merely your own opinion too. Sorry, I'm in one of those moods ^^.

of course its my opinion, but that doesnt matter. i was asking him if it was an opinion or an argument. yea im really bored haha

 

[Nergal]

PT doesn't deconfirm Lucario the same way Ike doesn't deconfirm Marth. We just have to wait & see. If Lucario is in, he's likely to be hidden, & chances are, Sakurai won't give much info on hidden characters. Personally, I wan't Lucario. Besides, DP was announced only shortly after the reease of the DS, which gives him a chance, if only a slight one.