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Um... this?
But that would require them to do some, gasp, extra work to win!
Wario has an even or next-to-even matchup against Meta. In fact, I believe he has a better matchup against MK than all of your secondaries.
His Dsmash is pretty slow. Why are you whining about it?
As I mentioned earlier, that's not the only problem though; there's also a ton who people who switch to Metaknight because of his freakishly small learning curve when they hit a snag with their own mains. Yeah, there are people like you and me who are trying to learn how to beat Metaknight with their respective characters but there are also a ton of people who don't even want to bother with it.
1. As I mentioned earlier, if someone with as much range as Marth has like 70/30 match up against Metaknight, how on Earth could Wario be even? He wrecks most of Wario's approaches and doesn't have that much of a problem gimping him since shuttle loop can knock him off his bike. The only thing I'd say Wario really has a leg up on is that he can kill Wario with a half charged Waft at like 60% but that isn't exactly the easiest of Wario's moves to land.
Well if everyone just used MK as a secondary then we'd have even more MKs in the tournament scene. I think the reason people are suggesting a ban in the first place is that there are too many MKs which destroys the viability of any character with a severe disadvantage against MK. Getting a secondary specifically for MK is a plan but there aren't really that many characters that do very well against him. (Which isn't to say they don't exist.)
Why do you say that if you joined past Feb 2008, you're a scrub?
Oh my gosh, QFT.
The point of my post is to say that you shouldn't assume that everyone who plays as a certain character will always use the same tactics in the same situations. You can expect it, perhaps, if it is commonly used but to map out your opponent entirely in your head if you've never played them before is kind of pointless unless it turns out that your opponent plays exactly, and I mean EXACTLY, by the book.
You know, despite Wario being disadvantaged against both Marth and Snake for having so many attacks with disjointed hitboxes while most of Metaknight's attacks are just that. Not the only factor but certainly a big one in this case.
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In what way is it slow?
Good job Fatmanonice, at least somebody here has the kindness to accept newcomers to the boards unlike the 3/5's of members here who will shun out 80% of the community if they have a 2008 registration. I know I have a 2008 sign-up also, but I've been playing smash since the 64 era along with Melee. I don't care what any of you say like, "Uh, you newb. Go find some other forum to pester because we don't want little scrubs like you bickering in our threads." Anyone who says anything remotely close to that is just as pathetic as any other "bully". Just thought I'd share my opinion.Welcome to Smash Boards; where someone can truely be better than someone else because they know more about a video game...
I just got called a scrub for asking that question. Thanks to my join date nonetheless.
I cannot quite understand what you're saying here.
The fact that it's "spammed like crazy" means people shouldn't even be whining about it in the first place. If it's that predictable, then predict. If it's spammed as much as you say, the move deterioration shouldn't make it as big as a problem as it would be when preserved.
Among D-smashes it's definetely not the fastest. When compared to G&W's or Wolf's D-smash (and, ironically, the rest of MK's moves excluding his F-smash) it's rather slow.
Sorry man, that's exactly what i was trying to stress above. For some reason, I feel the Smash Community is declining in the way we treat each other determined by how much knowledge one has of the smash universe and tournament settings. Plus on top of that determined by the date of registration makes people thing you are inferior to the rest of the boards. It just makes me sad sometimes that we treat each other like this.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=185726
I don't think its the fastest. (I could be wrong but I think Zelda's may be... I heard that somewhere...) but its still pretty fast. And while its slower than the rest of his attacks isn't that to be expected since its one of his more poweful moves? I think its a bit quicker than it should be based on its power. Not like... broken fast but still fast enough to be annoying.
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I just also receive this flack every now and then because of my registration date. I did have another account on here (Dekuknight950) which was made in 07', but I wanted a fresh start in any fact. Sorry for the inconvinience, but I just wanted to get my point across in general to the community because it really bugs me to no end when people look down on others just because of that reason even though I know of many who have recent sign-ups and have many valid arguments to back up their cases here on SWF. I really wish people would agree with my logic here.
*Claps*
It's not that everyone who has forum or community experience thinks allpeople with new join dates are stupid or scrubby. It's just a default position that we take, because that's overwhelmingly the case. Those who prove to be against the grain quickly make a name for themselves.
