IceArrow
Smash Lord
he is way too good for UU.
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The Metagame Discussion Thread
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Tomo Takino
Smash Ace
Pokemon don't get autobanned from UU, they have to prove to be broken first. There are a few UU pokemon that could handle him.
IceArrow
Smash Lord
there is only one counter for him in UU.
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Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
That's funny. Everyone said that about Gallade.
Prove it.
Heracross will be sent to BL almost as quickly as Cresselia and Porygon2 were.
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Ducks and bugs pillowfighting everywhere.
I definitely saw a comment on how Moltres could switch-in on Heracross.
Needless to say, I lol'd.
I definitely saw a comment on how Moltres could switch-in on Heracross.
Needless to say, I lol'd.
Moozle
Smash Champion
The strange thing is that lately I've been seeing more Heracross than ever.
IceArrow
Smash Lord
I just lost a UU tourney in PO because of Heracross 
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Tomo Takino
Smash Ace
Look I'm not denying that he'll be sent, but you don't send a Pokemon before they get play time. Arcanine and Houndoom are good checks. They can't be OHKOed by the choice scarf set, and outruns every other set possible. Weezing is a great counter, taking very little damage off of even the choice band set using just its standard physical wall. Offensive Miltoc is another possible Check. Running a Choice however could leave you open to a Mismagius set up, not something I'd want to see.
Tomo Takino
Smash Ace
Houndoom doesn't need to take a Close Combat. He's a check not a counter. He comes in and threatends a OHKO. I didn't do the calc so maybe I'm off on Houndoom OHKOing him.
Weezing regularly carries Flamethrower, and easily suck up his attacks, as well as recover with Plain spit.
Weezing regularly carries Flamethrower, and easily suck up his attacks, as well as recover with Plain spit.
IceArrow
Smash Lord
In my UU tourney Heracross is definitely banned.
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
And so running Heracross with Flash Fire Arcanine becomes a staple where Arcanine absorbs the Fire-type moves bar Will-o-Wisp and Heracross takes the Earthquake for Arcanine.
If you're running Choice Scarf just hit Mismagius with Stone Edge on the predicted switch-in. If not then switch-out immediately into Registeel.
If you're running Choice Scarf just hit Mismagius with Stone Edge on the predicted switch-in. If not then switch-out immediately into Registeel.
xLeafybug =D
Smash Master
Lol, Heracross in UU. That's awfully dumb, and I don't even play anymore (no computer good enough). That'll be BL right quick.
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Indeed he will be.
xLeafybug =D
Smash Master
Just thinking about it, Heracross would be a monster if it packed U-Turn. Like, insanely good. But that's probably already been discussed here. It's a **** shame...
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Where's Pink Reaper when you need him dangit.
Tomo Takino
Smash Ace
Heracross just needs Earthquake for fire pokemon and Grass Knot for bulky waters, but those moves are already waaaaay over distributed. Sadly though, nothing else works, and even then, he's got a preeety big 4 movepool syndrome.
Well wait maybe it doesn't. I'd have to do some Calcs.
Well wait maybe it doesn't. I'd have to do some Calcs.
Heracross already has Earthquake, and Grass Knot isn't going to accomplish anything on that base 40 SAtk.
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
I don't see why Heracross would use Earthquake. Close Combat and Megahorn are great STAB, and something like Stone Edge and Pursuit would be other move selections. Earthquake at best hits something like Arcanine harder.
Tomo Takino
Smash Ace
Wait, crap, for a second I thought Heatran resisted fire XD No idea why.
And I was talking about OU
EDIT Resisted Fighting, not Fire, he's immune to that o_O maybe I should get some sleep.
And I was talking about OU
EDIT Resisted Fighting, not Fire, he's immune to that o_O maybe I should get some sleep.
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Heatran is immune to Fire-types.
Tomo Takino
Smash Ace
Yeah I edited my post. My head is all fudged up tonight
Tomo Takino
Smash Ace
You can't transfer items over from Black and White, which means Rotom figures will be GONE.
That's a change in the metagame I like.
That's a change in the metagame I like.
PowerBomb
Smash Master
Not true. He's weak to Fire as the only commonly used type. In terms of things like Flying and Psychic outside of maybe Lead Elf and Bounce Gyara/Togekiss you're not gonna see a lot of those particular types. Heracross is bad in OU due to his middling speed and general lack of an ability to be unpredictable. If you're going to use something that's slow, hits hard and is weak to fire you might as well go with Luke who at least gets Extremespeed and has a higher Base Speed.
The funny thing is that just about all of Heracross's checks and counters reside in OU.
Tomo Takino
Smash Ace
Nah Miltoc can't, I checked the calcs yesterday. She's no counter, she's just a check.
Wrath`
Smash Master
No, not necessarily, All they have to do is have a room in some town with the same 5 Appliances. Why would gamefreak get rid of pokemon formes?
Tomo Takino
Smash Ace
You could trade over items in that, and Dexosys wasn't dependent on an item.
Wrath`
Smash Master
You act like they can not program two items and five appliances into a game.
Tomo Takino
Smash Ace
LET ME DREAM GOD ****IT caps
Tomo Takino
Smash Ace
Because I left the metagame due to life becoming busy right before they showed up, now I have no idea how to fight them.