The Marth Support Thread - Fire Emblem's First Lord is Confirmed!

[Storm Eagle]

Add me to the list of Marth Supporters, please.

 

[Pluvius]

If there's a list, add me.

 

[NukeA6]

EPIC FAIL!

Your lack any reasons whatsover. Such a shame you can't reply back.

 

[silver777]

EPIC FAIL!

you ruined and over shadowed my manga post, thanks.

 

[Zevox]

Add me to the list of Marth Supporters, please.

While I certainly appreciate the support, you're already on the list, so it would be a bit silly to do so again . Added Pluvius though.

I have uploaded some images of the FE1 manga I was talking about a few pages back .

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_oduacx.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_tbjgy.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_poyyb.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_vyhnlr.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_scnc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_wukekc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_ewqiqq.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_iblsjo.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_mthkc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_fokd.png

I really hate the art style.

not bad afterall.

Hm, interesting. Very typical anime-ish art style, so i can see why you don't like it (I'm not fond of it myself). I'm guessing these aren't all sequential pages though, since the story seems pretty disjointed just reading them in a row.

Zevox

 

[silver777]

While I certainly appreciate the support, you're already on the list, so it would be a bit silly to do so again . Added Pluvius though.


Hm, interesting. Very typical anime-ish art style, so i can see why you don't like it (I'm not fond of it myself). I'm guessing these aren't all sequential pages though, since the story seems pretty disjointed just reading them in a row.

Zevox

there are two volumes now, I took several pages here and there to show the characters.

 

[raphtmarqui]

II really hate the art style.

Yea, the art style in the anime is terrible too.

 

[person701]

We still don't have 50 supporters

 

[evilwart]

I support Marth!

 

[cccck]

We still don't have 50 supporters

are you guys counting me? I like Marth. he's cool.

 

[Biggie Smalls]

I must ask, what IS the Fire Emblem Roster? I'm thinking:

1.Ike
2.Black Knight/Miciah
3.Marth

 

[Brenco55]

Marth doesn`t need support, you know hes commin back

 

[XeroHarsh]

Marth doesn`t need support, you know hes commin back

Well, this topic doesn't really support marth as I see it, but supports us into believing he will be back, kinda like a false hope (I just hope it isn't false.)

 

[Shadow Calibur]

I have uploaded some images of the FE1 manga I was talking about a few pages back .

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_oduacx.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_tbjgy.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_poyyb.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_vyhnlr.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_scnc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_wukekc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_ewqiqq.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_iblsjo.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_mthkc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_fokd.png

I really hate the art style.

not bad afterall.

Eh, it's good. Story seems a bit jumbled though.

Then again, it's been a while since I read a manga, so...

 

[Fatmanonice]

I strongly believe that Marth is coming back especially seeing how Ike turned out. The game footage from E for All basically proved what I initially thought when I first say Ike's Special Moves update, he's basically a semi-clone of Marth much like Luigi is a semi-clone of Luigi. When I say "semi-clone" I mean a character that has a lot of similarities with another but enough differences to make them completely distinct.

For example, Ike appears to have the same smash attacks, throws, B down special attack (counter), and various ground and aerial attacks. The principles of his special attacks are similar too. When it comes to similar attacks that has been slightly modified, eruption has the same range as Marth's Shield breaker and is chargable and Aether reaches about the same height and direction as Marth's recovery. There are different attacks too like how Ike's B Smash attack is a charging attack much like how Luigi's B Smash attack is the Luigi Missle instead of a cape.

Stat wise, they seem to be complete opposites which also helps Marth's chances. Ike is incredibly slow but at the same time nightmarishly strong while we all know about how agile and lithe Marth is. Throw in all the points that Zevox made about Marth's overall significance to Fire Emblem and how there will easily be unlockable characters coming back from Melee (Mr. Game and Watch is semiconfirmed because of the icons and even without Anouma's interview slip, it's more then obvious that Ganondorf's coming back), you have a character that has a very high chance of coming back. (Roy, on the other hand...)

 

[Chidosengan]

I have uploaded some images of the FE1 manga I was talking about a few pages back .

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_oduacx.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_tbjgy.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_poyyb.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_vyhnlr.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_scnc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_wukekc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_ewqiqq.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_iblsjo.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_mthkc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_fokd.png

I really hate the art style.

not bad afterall.

What do you mean you hate the art style? Guess you're not an manga fan huh?

BTW, how long has this been going for?

 

[The Slayer]

I strongly believe that Marth is coming back especially seeing how Ike turned out. The game footage from E for All basically proved what I initially thought when I first say Ike's Special Moves update, he's basically a semi-clone of Marth much like Luigi is a semi-clone of Mario. When I say "semi-clone" I mean a character that has a lot of similarities with another but enough differences to make them completely distinct.

For example, Ike appears to have the same smash attacks, throws, B down special attack (counter), and various ground and aerial attacks. The principles of his special attacks are similar too. When it comes to similar attacks that has been slightly modified, eruption has the same range as Marth's Shield breaker and is chargable and Aether reaches about the same height and direction as Marth's recovery. There are different attacks too like how Ike's B Smash attack is a charging attack much like how Luigi's B Smash attack is the Luigi Missle instead of a cape.

Stat wise, they seem to be complete opposites which also helps Marth's chances. Ike is incredibly slow but at the same time nightmarishly strong while we all know about how agile and lithe Marth is. Throw in all the points that Zevox made about Marth's overall significance to Fire Emblem and how there will easily be unlockable characters coming back from Melee (Mr. Game and Watch is semiconfirmed because of the icons and even without Anouma's interview slip, it's more then obvious that Ganondorf's coming back), you have a character that has a very high chance of coming back. (Roy, on the other hand...)

Fixed and yeah, he'll most likely coming back and for the same reasons.

 

[Okysho]

Rapier-style? Eliwood means something?

Well, Marth's style with the Falchion changes, but I think you already know. Marth's fighting style in Brawl shouldn't be changed at all.

When I say Rapier style, I mean that most of the FE characters (lords in peticular) start with a Rapier and thus use the same type of weapon throughout the game. That being said, there isn't much diversety allowed with each sword style which is what I was trying to get at... Which is why I said that too many of the same type of sword user (i.e. Marth, Roy, Elliwood, Sigrud all start with rapiers) would be harder to make a different moveset for each character

 

[Okysho]

I have uploaded some images of the FE1 manga I was talking about a few pages back .

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_oduacx.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_tbjgy.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_poyyb.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_vyhnlr.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_scnc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_wukekc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_ewqiqq.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_iblsjo.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_mthkc.png

http://images.upload2world.com/get-11-2007-upload2world_com_fokd.png

I really hate the art style.

not bad afterall.

wow! It looks like Ranma 1/2 style art... Anyways, Thank you so much! The book 1 torrent didn't work for me!

 

[Okysho]

I must ask, what IS the Fire Emblem Roster? I'm thinking:

1.Ike
2.Black Knight/Miciah
3.Marth

I'm pretty sure the black knight, nor Machiah is being considered for the roster, since I believe that Ike will represent both games. Either way the black knight is out of the question since he's too minor.
As for Machiah, I can't say I have any legitimate reasons for saying that she shouldn't be in (Aside from the fact that I think Ike is representing both games) and that she's a magic user, which is kinda like saying "Sorren for Brawl!" or "Pent for Brawl!" but then again, they managed to make Zelda work out quite well.... so... I guess in that department it's still anybody's game.

There's also the posibility that Fire Emblem may not even get a third representative, it could just end up being the two. Marth and Ike, and possibly still Roy because even though everyone thinks that he'll be removed, he is a veteran character and absolutely no information on unlockable veterans have been released. So since nothing is confirmed or deconfirmed I say that in the event that a third FE spot is allowed, it's still open to all potential charcters. Just.... not the black knight... or any other minor charcters....

I multiposted again didn't I?

 

[Doodx]

if u think about it roy is pretty important! i mean he helped fire emblem alot by advertising in melee and his game was sold pretty well 3rd i think?So Roy is definately more important than black knight but im not shure about micaiah. No offence to marth lol but someone told me that in the beggining everyone chose roy than marth becuse of marths 'girly look' but later people chose marth becuz he is definately better. i know he doesnt have many chances but i really want him back at least as a marth costume...
lol okysho ur always multiposting HAHA then u always give apologies lol


BTW THAT DOESNT MEAN I DONT WANT MARTH BACK OR IM AGAINST HIM OK??!! HE IS MY MAIN, HES MY NUMBER ONE IN CHARS I WANT!

 

[NukeA6]

When I say Rapier style, I mean that most of the FE characters (lords in peticular) start with a Rapier and thus use the same type of weapon throughout the game. That being said, there isn't much diversety allowed with each sword style which is what I was trying to get at... Which is why I said that too many of the same type of sword user (i.e. Marth, Roy, Elliwood, Sigrud all start with rapiers) would be harder to make a different moveset for each character

Sigurd doesn't use rapiers.

 

[Doodx]

um is radiant dawn only in japan cuz i cant find it!

 

[Zevox]

I must ask, what IS the Fire Emblem Roster? I'm thinking:

1.Ike
2.Black Knight/Miciah
3.Marth

Almost surely Ike and Marth for the first two, but the third is debateable. We can pretty much certainly toss out the Black Knight as a candidate - too minor of a character, being only a secondary villain and sub-plot of his games. We can also likely write off characters of the two least popular games of the series, Gaiden and Sacred Stones, since they'll want to include characters the fans like. That leaves us with Sigurd, Micaiah, Leaf, Eliwood, Hector, Roy, and Elincia as Lords go. Elincia can likely be written off due to being less important than Ike and Micaiah, leaving six debatable options. Of them, I'd say the most likely two are Sigurd and Micaiah, after them Leaf and Eliwood, and at the bottom of the list are Hector and Roy. I'd explain further, but it is a bit off-topic, and I need to leave for class shortly.

Well, this topic doesn't really support marth as I see it, but supports us into believing he will be back, kinda like a false hope (I just hope it isn't false.)

And what precisely does a support thread do that this one does not? Post a move set? We all know what Marth's moves are from Melee, and I do have a section there for posting suggestions of how to change them. And certainly theres no reason to believe the hope is false, when he has basically every reason an FE character possibly could to be in and none to be removed.

For example, Ike appears to have the same smash attacks, throws, B down special attack (counter), and various ground and aerial attacks.

I might suggest you look at the compilation of his moves in the Ike sub-forum, because he has nowhere near that many similarities. His smash attacks are all different (save his dsmash, which is the same on all sword-wielders), his one known throw is different (rather than an actual toss, its an uppercut punch), and the only ground and air attacks that are the same are their f-tilt and fair, and even those have cosmetic differences. And Eruption and Aether certainly can't be called similarities, given they don't work the same way at all. The only similarities are that Eruption and Shield Breaker are both chargeable, which is something many characters' special moves share, and that Aether and Dolphin Slash are rising attacks, which almost all up specials are.

Otherwise, I quite agree with you - Ike has definitely been made different enough from Marth that its probably deliberately to differentiate them. Especially with him being slow and strong, which certainly isn't what he was in his games (if anything, by them he should have been just slightly on the fast side, since his speed caps a little higher than his strength).

um is radiant dawn only in japan cuz i cant find it!

Its out in the US too - I've had it since Tuesday last week.

Zevox

 

[raphtmarqui]

Especially with him being slow and strong, which certainly isn't what he was in his games (if anything, by them he should have been just slightly on the fast side, since his speed caps a little higher than his strength).

Yea, i really dislike how they implemented Ike in Brawl. Hes completely opposite of what he should be statisticly/

 

[Roy-Kun]

Yea, i really dislike how they implemented Ike in Brawl. Hes completely opposite of what he should be statisticly/

Agreed, but if we just are basing on his cons... it's logical.

Just sayin'.

 

[Doodx]

btw were spikes ment to be in melee and will they be in brawl?? marth's one totaly owned

 

[SirroMinus1]

Hmm Marth is alredy in brawl but it just has not updated yet. example. Zelda why hasn't her special moves been shown yet. i bet they want to hit us with the huge updates later on.

 

[Okysho]

The main reason I think we're getting less helpful updates now is because of the delay. Sakurai himself said that he was going to release characters before brawl's actual release since he didn't want it getting out via fan sites and underground streamings.... but that's kinda off topic.
I think that in those updates (closer to brawl JP release) at least I think, we'll be able to get more of the answers we're looking for. Marth and the other vets will be confirmed and we can all sleep easy! ^_^

 

[Zevox]

The main reason I think we're getting less helpful updates now is because of the delay. Sakurai himself said that he was going to release characters before brawl's actual release since he didn't want it getting out via fan sites and underground streamings.... but that's kinda off topic.
I think that in those updates (closer to brawl JP release) at least I think, we'll be able to get more of the answers we're looking for. Marth and the other vets will be confirmed and we can all sleep easy! ^_^

If Sakurai really does want to update all the characters before the release, he'll need to pick up the pace sometime, especially with the veterans. On those alone he'd need to update almost 1 a week from now until the release to get everyone we're likely to see (presuming theres about 9-10 more vets, with Doc/Pichu/Roy/Ness/and hopefully Y Link out), and since theres also surely more newcomers to update too, it would need to be faster to get everyone. Perhaps he intends to give them to us en masse nearer the release - a couple of weeks of nothing but double-updates of veterans and their moves or final smashes would be simply incredible, and a great way to help restore hype.

btw were spikes ment to be in melee and will they be in brawl?? marth's one totaly owned

Not sure, to be honest. I think they were, since they're basically what meteor smashes were supposed to be (though I still don't get how they managed to make most meteor smashes recoverable and yet other moves they didn't intend to make into meteor smahes were spikes). We know meteor smashes are in Brawl - they got mentioned in the footstool jump update - so perhaps spikes are too.

Zevox

 

[Biggie Smalls]

Marth's Meteor smash owned if you hit them at a certain angle or point with the sword. I personally main Gannondorf, Bowser, and Mewtwo. Slow characters are awesome for me. Mewtwo is heavily underrated, Gannondorf's Meteor Smash is arguably the best, and Bowser just rocks.

Gannondorf should get a counter move and keep his Meteor Smash. It's just too good to drop. By the way, isn't Marth an Ike alt.?

 

[Hong]

By the way, isn't Marth an Ike alt.?

I don't know where people are getting this from. D: The only thing Ike at all resembles with his costumes is Sigurd (white) and his father, Greil (black/yellow). I don't know where people got the idea. Even if Ike had the exact came clothing palette, his outfit is too outlandish and rugged to be similar to the refined high-maintenance look of Marth.

By the way, put me down for Marth supporters.

 

[Zevox]

By the way, isn't Marth an Ike alt.?

Nope. Thats one of the things my first post addresses. As we learned from all the videos that came out of E for All, the ones who thought such were mistaken. Check the Ike sub-forum for a thread which gives all of his outfits and you'll notice that the closest thing he has to a Marth costume is one which gives him a blue cape and white clothing with black trim, and that is far closer to Sigurd than Marth (the only similarity to Marth in it is the blue cape, and that plus the lighter clothing color probably through off people who already thought they looked alike).

Zevox

 

[Okysho]

If Sakurai really does want to update all the characters before the release, he'll need to pick up the pace sometime, especially with the veterans. On those alone he'd need to update almost 1 a week from now until the release to get everyone we're likely to see (presuming theres about 9-10 more vets, with Doc/Pichu/Roy/Ness/and hopefully Y Link out), and since theres also surely more newcomers to update too, it would need to be faster to get everyone. Perhaps he intends to give them to us en masse nearer the release - a couple of weeks of nothing but double-updates of veterans and their moves or final smashes would be simply incredible, and a great way to help restore hype.
Zevox

Without a doubt I agree, the extra hype will be amazing. Also, I'd like to point out that I'm only basing my evidence on what I've heard other people say. All over the N-siders people were saying that Sakurai had made a blog post about releasing all the vets before they leaked out via the net, but like I said I didn't see it myself

 

[person701]

The main reason I think we're getting less helpful updates now is because of the delay. Sakurai himself said that he was going to release characters before brawl's actual release since he didn't want it getting out via fan sites and underground streamings.... but that's kinda off topic.
I think that in those updates (closer to brawl JP release) at least I think, we'll be able to get more of the answers we're looking for. Marth and the other vets will be confirmed and we can all sleep easy! ^_^

When is the release date? If it's soon, then we'll be able to rest easy.

 

[Zevox]

When is the *** release date? If it's soon, then we'll be able to rest easy.

February 10th (in the US). Japan gets it January 24th though, so we'll probably get full spoilers sometime around then (if not that day, then one or two later).

Zevox

 

[Numa Dude]

Put me down as a supporter.

 

[Annhialator Zero]

Put me down please

Been maining Marth since I unlocked him (Which was way before I knew competitive) and I see no reason to remove him

 

[Ouendanation]

I'm a supporter! Marth, my main, ftw!

 

[Okysho]

muhahahahaaa the support grows!