The Marth Support Thread - Fire Emblem's First Lord is Confirmed!

[Hong]

Which is why I can't figure out, for the life of me, why people are being so pessimistic in regards to the final character roster. Honestly, over two years to work on the game and people are expecting only 30 or so characters? Come on.

There are a few things in mind.

For one, Smash Brothers characters, or any character/power from Sakurai for that matter are made to have very distinct advantages and sometimes disadvantages. Other fighting games only have a few characters who stick out from the bunch a bit, while Super Smash Brother's only similar characters other than clones were Mario and Luigi in SSB64. Now that we're going onto Brawl, we can already see the characters are even more vastly differentiated.

And for another thing, every time you make a character, it becomes harder to make another character who offers their own quirk. I see tons of movesets on these boards, but I hardly ever see how the character is played and what makes them different. Different moves don't make a different character, but different properties and distinctions make them special. So because they doubled the original characters going from SSB64 to Melee, one can't expect them to also double the amount of characters going into Brawl, because SSB64 would have had almost as many characters as Melee did if time and hardware allowed for such.

Considering clones will be removed or remixed, expecting 35~ or so characters isn't asking for a whole lot. It can be said from the demo alone that it's better to perfect a small amount of character instead of adding too many that aren't exactly on an even scale.

 

[Doodx]

ok but lets say marth and roy come, marth can be the fast char from fire emblem roy can be the medium speed one and ike can be the slow one that makes them all unique and if u say no, look at what they did to Kirby series slow fast medium how hard is it to make someone a bit slower than the other but make his sword move differently they could even take ike and change his appearance and moves and speed but keep his jump style and walk ... make him a bit shorter, less muscular and make different voice! thats wat i would do if i were the nintendo programers and if i were to bring roy i would like make marth keep the ded and roy keep the ohko move and for ded swich it to like he can throw his sword at someone and then go and get it kind of like aether they can change his move set and make fans happier because they took some of their melee moves and act like veterans but marth can keep his melee moves except b and roy could get a different move set if he has to come to brawl they dont have to start from scratch!I don't think it is that hard if u can do that
noob question is Lyn only in fe6?

 

[NukeA6]

Hey guys have you seen this yet?

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=127033

Either a roster with all characters or a roster with just starting characters will be announced by December 15th.

It would be too early to reveal all characters. Most likely, the starters. Either way, that will be my last day before I shelter myself from anymore info of Brawl.

 

[raphtmarqui]

its kinda a shame that they didn't make Roy a separate character from Marth in melee, with his own moves and all

He doesn't really have much to work with though.

 

[Hong]

Having three Fire Emblem swordsmen is only a little redundant don't you think? I mean, there are 12 weapon classes.

 

[raphtmarqui]

True, but unfortionetly most lords are sword users/

 

[Uchiha.Sanosuke]

With the inclusion of Marth in the upcoming Fire Emblem DS, I feel that Marth's return is all but certain. Besides, he holds priority over characters like Black Knight and Miciah by a mile.

He's just so awesome. Marth for the win!

 

[Hong]

True, but unfortionetly most lords are sword users/

Most but not all. That and I know lords are the most important and popular characters, but don't be suprised if Sakurai takes a character he really likes and throws them in Brawl regardless of status.

 

[Superninjabreadman]

roy can be the medium speed one

Roy was in Melee because he had an upcoming game. like Ike is now (Sorta).

Roy was a clone in Melee. If he comes back it would mean a new moveset.

Ike already sorta has the new moveset thing down. Roy would have to be a mix of Ike and Marth.

There would be no need for change. Roy is already the mix of Ike and Marth.


Really. Roy isnt coming back. he's already the medium speed one. theres several more wanted characters from the FE series anyway.

 

[Soma08]

i support! marth better come back..

 

[PSIguy89]

i don't know if anybody took this the same way i did, but if you noticed Sakurai said that castle seige was a generic FE stage which means it could work for ANY FE character, which also means hes not favoring POR or RD. oh, and he still kept the falchion as the symbol, but that could have been for other reasons. either way i strongly think thats Sakurai's way of hinting that Marth will be back ^^

 

[Mar~]

Maaaaaaaarth!!

 

[Irow]

Well, I'm a Marth supporter.

When I unlocked Marth, I was like "Oh my god, they put in Marth!"

I was the only kid I knew that knew about Fire Emblem and Marth. Marth was my secondary for a long time. And he recently took my Link's spot.

If Marth is in the game, I think I'd change some of Marth's moves into stabs. Wasn't a lot of moves in the actual game revolved around stabs?

 

[Zevox]

i don't know if anybody took this the same way i did, but if you noticed Sakurai said that castle seige was a generic FE stage which means it could work for ANY FE character, which also means hes not favoring POR or RD. oh, and he still kept the falchion as the symbol, but that could have been for other reasons. either way i strongly think thats Sakurai's way of hinting that Marth will be back ^^

Its certainly one piece of evidence against him favoring PoR/RD, but then again that claim never held much water, especially with Lyn revealed as an AT. What I was more interested in was Ike's spot in the outfits update. With the total number of recolors characters get at six, we're missing one of Ike's; however, the fact that Ike's only outfits shown in that update were generic colors associated with ally/other soldiers in FE makes me confident the unknown outfit is not a Marth one. If he had anything like that, it would have been shown in the update, or he would have been left out of it to conceal the surprise. He wouldn't have been included in the update without it.

Well, I'm a Marth supporter.

When I unlocked Marth, I was like "Oh my god, they put in Marth!"

I was the only kid I knew that knew about Fire Emblem and Marth. Marth was my secondary for a long time. And he recently took my Link's spot.

If Marth is in the game, I think I'd change some of Marth's moves into stabs. Wasn't a lot of moves in the actual game revolved around stabs?

You knew about Marth before Melee? Thats rare on this side of the ocean. I didn't learn about him or FE until Melee brought them over stateside myself, and boy, am I glad they did. I'd have missed out on so much if they'd decided to cut Marth and Roy from the international versions of the game like they were considering doing.

As for the stabs, perhaps. I believe I heard Marth used a rapier for a while during his games, and that type of sword is designed for stabbing. Falchion is another story though, as its a more typical slashing blade, so if that was the only reason he did a lot of stabbing in his game, I wouldn't count on that kind of change taking place.

Zevox

 

[Soma08]

i wish i had heard of Fire Emblem before melee came out. it's my favorite series right now. so many years wasted not playing Fire Emblem... :/ I can't wait to see Marth in action in FE DS

 

[Kirby knight]

Not really. If Sakurai decides the three most deserving FE characters are all sword wielders, so be it. Most of the main characters of the saga do wield swords, due to it being the archetypal heroic weapon in many cultures, and given that it'd be pretty silly to reject a more deserving character for a lesser one on the basis of his/her weapon of choice.

I will agree with Lunadis on the redundancy of three Fire Emblem characters using a sword. It doesn't matter if Sakurai finds those 3 deserving or not; it does not change the redundancy of having three lords using swords (Unless of course Sakurai can make it so that neither of the 3 will overlap at all with one another).

I'm not saying that Sakurai should reject a deserving Fire Emblem character just because of a sword, but the prospect of yet another sword user alongside Marth and Ike seems rather bland and redundant to me regardless if it's a archetypal heroic weapon in many cultures.

-Knight

 

[Okysho]

Most but not all. That and I know lords are the most important and popular characters, but don't be suprised if Sakurai takes a character he really likes and throws them in Brawl regardless of status.

If that were the case, then Sigrud and Navarre would be confirmed since Sakurai said that those are his two favourite Fire Emblem characters

 

[DeuceBlade]

I don't like marth particularly but I hope he comes back he had a cool moveset.

 

[Doodx]

If that were the case, then Sigrud and Navarre would be confirmed since Sakurai said that those are his two favourite Fire Emblem characters

you dont know what he can do lol

 

[Roy-Kun]

Not really. If Sakurai decides the three most deserving FE characters are all sword wielders, so be it. Most of the main characters of the saga do wield swords, due to it being the archetypal heroic weapon in many cultures, and given that it'd be pretty silly to reject a more deserving character for a lesser one on the basis of his/her weapon of choice.

Zevox

I agree with this, but actually all the Fire Emblem games have a Main Protagonist who uses a Sword (Marth, Alm, Sigurd, Celice, Leaf, Roy, Lyn, Eliwood, Eirika and Ike, that's the order right?), and I think it's better to keep it in swords-only. Assist Trophies can appear for additional weapons such as Axes, Lances and Magic.

Yet, Zevox got a point, it's up to Sakurai to decide if the FE reps will all be sword-users or not, we can't make him change his decisions, but maybe we can make him think before doing them, JUST maybe.

 

[Rick88]

I'm a Marth supporter. Althought he only FE game I've ever played was the first one for the GBA lol. But even then, Marth was one of my main guys in SSBM and hopefully he will return in SSBB.

 

[Roy-Kun]

I'm a Marth supporter. Althought he only FE game I've ever played was the first one for the GBA lol. But even then, Marth was one of my main guys in SSBM and hopefully he will return in SSBB.

If you got a DS, and you are a Marth fan (oh, you already are xD), keep tuned on for Fire Emblem DS, a remake of the First FE game (AKA Marth's game).

 

[PSIguy89]

besides brawl thats the only other game i'm looking forward to^^ i tried playing FE 1&3 (both were Marth's games) with my limited knowledge of japanese but sadly my emulator (or rom) stopped working so i really can't wait to get my hands on the DS remake. lets all hope that Marth looks like he does in the new game ^^

 

[Chaosblade77]

Most but not all. That and I know lords are the most important and popular characters, but don't be suprised if Sakurai takes a character he really likes and throws them in Brawl regardless of status.

Nephenee would be a much better choice for a lance user than Ephraim, with that said... but that said . I don't see a non-lord getting in, or even a lesser lord like Elincia, but Sakurai is known for his surprises.

i don't know if anybody took this the same way i did, but if you noticed Sakurai said that castle seige was a generic FE stage which means it could work for ANY FE character, which also means hes not favoring POR or RD. oh, and he still kept the falchion as the symbol, but that could have been for other reasons. either way i strongly think thats Sakurai's way of hinting that Marth will be back ^^

I highly doubt ALL of the FE reps (meaning the other one or two) will be from PoR or RD, especially since Marth is the most likely FE character to be in right now.

Well, I'm a Marth supporter.

When I unlocked Marth, I was like "Oh my god, they put in Marth!"

I was the only kid I knew that knew about Fire Emblem and Marth. Marth was my secondary for a long time. And he recently took my Link's spot.

If Marth is in the game, I think I'd change some of Marth's moves into stabs. Wasn't a lot of moves in the actual game revolved around stabs?

I doubt Marth's moveset will change much, he will just be tweaked for balance (eg his tips and maybe his grabs)

If you got a DS, and you are a Marth fan (oh, you already are xD), keep tuned on for Fire Emblem DS, a remake of the First FE game (AKA Marth's game).

I read that it was going to be a remake of FE3, meaning it will include both of Marth's games, not just the first one. I certainly hope so.

 

[Roy-Kun]

I read that it was going to be a remake of FE3, meaning it will include both of Marth's games, not just the first one. I certainly hope so.

Is that so? Cool! But I think that also a few new story elements will be added, right?

 

[Chaosblade77]

Is that so? Cool! But I think that also a few new story elements will be added, right?

I haven't heard that, I just read it would be a remake of Marth's FE games, meaning the third one (since it included the first one as well as the sequel.) I haven't played them obviously, so I don't know if there were any loose ends or anything. I doubt they would change the story at all though, that just wouldn't make much sense.

 

[PSIguy89]

from what i gathered on wiki there adding some new characters, but this doesn't mean much to me cause i didn't really get to know any of the characters save for marth and Sheeda

 

[Chaosblade77]

from what i gathered on wiki there adding some new characters, but this doesn't mean much to me cause i didn't really get to know any of the characters save for marth and Sheeda

Wiki was where I read that they were releasing FE1 and the sequel I believe. But that is also where I read that every FE game released as Japan only, and both Mother 1 and 3 are being released on the Shop Channel, translated.

*hopes for the best, especially if Marth's game receives changes.... I want to play a version as close as I can to the original*

 

[Zevox]

What is known at the moment about FE:DS can be found here, on Serenes Forest. There will be new characters, that much is certain - one, a cavalier named Freyr, has already been revealed, albeit with nothing about how he fits into the story revealed with him. Apparently, there are other changes from the original too - the weapon triangle has been implemented, modern weapon ranks have replaced whatever it originally had, strength and magic co-exist like they have since PoR, and Sheeda comes with a new unique weapon, the "Wing Spear." Oh, and it will be the first FE to include Wifi play, which is exciting.

It also sounds like some content which was cut from the remake in Mystery of the Emblem is in, which could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on whether it means we're just getting the Dark Dragon & the Sword of Light content or not. I sure hope we get the Mystery of the Emblem expansion too personally.

Zevox

 

[Chaosblade77]

What is known at the moment about FE:DS can be found here, on Serenes Forest. There will be new characters, that much is certain - one, a cavalier named Freyr, has already been revealed, albeit with nothing about how he fits into the story revealed with him. Apparently, there are other changes from the original too - the weapon triangle has been implemented, modern weapon ranks have replaced whatever it originally had, strength and magic co-exist like they have since PoR, and Sheeda comes with a new unique weapon, the "Wing Spear." Oh, and it will be the first FE to include Wifi play, which is exciting.

It also sounds like some content which was cut from the remake in Mystery of the Emblem is in, which could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on whether it means we're just getting the Dark Dragon & the Sword of Light content or not. I sure hope we get the Mystery of the Emblem expansion too personally.

Zevox

Can't wait for that. Also, I love that background... I am going to have to play with it in photoshop XD

 

[raphtmarqui]

I sure hope we get the Mystery of the Emblem expansion too personally.

Yea i hope they don't cut corners and not give us the second chapter.

 

[PSIguy89]

it sure would be awesome if we got to see some cut scenes with Marth in them (like RD) i mean didn't some final fantasy game for the DS have cut scenes?

 

[Hong]

it sure would be awesome if we got to see some cut scenes with Marth in them (like RD) i mean didn't some final fantasy game for the DS have cut scenes?

Yeah. Final Fantasy III DS used the power of both screens to render cutscenes that look beautiful.

 

[PSIguy89]

maybe, just maybe they'll do that but either way it'll be great to be able to experience Marth's history

 

[Ephraim]

I support Marth 100%

 

[Chidosengan]

Hmm... I wonder if they'll keep that mount/dismount option for mounted units. Yeah, that was in the original FE3.

 

[Okysho]

What is known at the moment about FE:DS can be found here, on Serenes Forest. There will be new characters, that much is certain - one, a cavalier named Freyr, has already been revealed, albeit with nothing about how he fits into the story revealed with him. Apparently, there are other changes from the original too - the weapon triangle has been implemented, modern weapon ranks have replaced whatever it originally had, strength and magic co-exist like they have since PoR, and Sheeda comes with a new unique weapon, the "Wing Spear." Oh, and it will be the first FE to include Wifi play, which is exciting.

It also sounds like some content which was cut from the remake in Mystery of the Emblem is in, which could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on whether it means we're just getting the Dark Dragon & the Sword of Light content or not. I sure hope we get the Mystery of the Emblem expansion too personally.

Zevox

Totally awesome I can't wait! I'll actually buy a DS for this game!

 

[Doodx]

thnk god i got a ds but its totaly ****** up lol my dig bit it and destroyed it it has bite marks everywhere except the screen haha

 

[silver777]

That FE DS better has Mystery of the Emblem storyline.. >=(

 

[PSIguy89]

i can't see why it wouldn't seeing as its the second remake ^^
i mean why not remake the remake