The Marth Support Thread - Fire Emblem's First Lord is Confirmed!

[Okysho]

Ah I see... so he stands on the "They look the same" argument... I can't say I blame them, since the mods are pretty un-biased when it comes to those kinds of things but they haven't looked enough into the character and the movesets... well they're still rather selfless when it comes to their arguments... they totally have to see this thread....

 

[rubiksfriend]

Marth not returning does not seem like a legitimate option, seeing as Ike's playing style is so drastically different.

 

[adumbrodeus]

i believe marth's moveset will be in the game in one way or another. as marth or roy or some entirely new F.E. toon. so i wouldn't be too worried about that.

Nobody really cares what Marth's moveset is....

We just want Marth, one of the most awesome characters ever created, in Brawl.

Too true, but that doesn't mean the people will do it.... they're always too lazy and make assumptions like that based on their own personal preferences, like the people on the prediction threads and even a few of the Mods... but you can't change people, so I guess the only thing you can do is to be as non-biased as you can whilst you support other characters.

Having said that, people are taking this newcommer thing much too far and blowing it WAY out of proportion. They think all of a sudden that no rescrictions apply (see store for details! I made a funny! yes? oh...) and that ANY character could now be in smash. I can't say I completely agree with that, but people forget too often that they have to have been on a nintendo system (in the case of third party characters) and have to have a MASSIVE fanbase in order to obtain a position in the game. Hence on of Marth's main weapons at hand in pwning the non-believers, but either way that case still applies with any character. The problem I have with certain cahracters that people suggest is that they have a small fanbase and/or they're not of nintnendo origin and/or have not been on a nintendo system.

I see a lot of people taking this the wrong way but it's not like I can smite them all or anything...

Thank god Marth has popularity on his side!

Well, anyone can get into Smash (as long as their respective companies will agree to it).

Just most are VERY VERY UNLIKELY.

But that certainly doesn't mean people can't hope that Sakurai will pull a rabbit out of his hat and put in Ryu Hayabusa. It's just that the odds of me seeing "New Challenger approaching" and suddenly fighting Ryu are so unlikely that it's barely worth considering, he does have a large fanbase, and had his start on a nintendo console, but he's most known for his x-box exploits.

And of course there are still true WTF characters like Gabe Logan from Syphon Filter (has a reasonable fanbase and never appeared on a Nintendo Console), but the odds of it occuring are astronomical.


Never consider anyone except assist trophies and explicit deconfirmations impossible, but of course, we all realize that you're gonna win the lottery twice in a row before Gabe Logan gets into Brawl.

Unless somebody happens to have an explicit deconfirmation of characters that never appeared on Nintendo systems of course.

 

[Doodx]

Nobody really cares what Marth's moveset is....

We just want Marth, one of the most awesome characters ever created, in Brawl.







Well, anyone can get into Smash (as long as their respective companies will agree to it).

Just most are VERY VERY UNLIKELY.

But that certainly doesn't mean people can't hope that Sakurai will pull a rabbit out of his hat and put in Ryu Hayabusa. It's just that the odds of me seeing "New Challenger approaching" and suddenly fighting Ryu are so unlikely that it's barely worth considering, he does have a large fanbase, and had his start on a nintendo console, but he's most known for his x-box exploits.

And of course there are still true WTF characters like Gabe Logan from Syphon Filter (has a reasonable fanbase and never appeared on a Nintendo Console), but the odds of it occuring are astronomical.


Never consider anyone except assist trophies and explicit deconfirmations impossible, but of course, we all realize that you're gonna win the lottery twice in a row before Gabe Logan gets into Brawl.

Unless somebody happens to have an explicit deconfirmation of characters that never appeared on Nintendo systems of course.

dont give sakurai ideas cuz he likes wtf chars lol example poketrainer i got shocked with that lol he just likes to impress us and yes we are all impressed but we would realy be impressed if u gave marth a good moveset and confirm him as a playable char cuz u delayed alot in that give us marth as a christmas gift!

 

[NukeA6]

Sigurd, Ayra, and Roy should be alts for Marth, each with their own voices (and Roy with fire). Just thought of this.

 

[Okysho]

dont give sakurai ideas cuz he likes wtf chars lol example poketrainer i got shocked with that lol he just likes to impress us and yes we are all impressed but we would realy be impressed if u gave marth a good moveset and confirm him as a playable char cuz u delayed alot in that give us marth as a christmas gift!

Actually after giving it a bit of thought, PT being playable does make a lot of sense. Pokemon was astronomically huge when it came to red blue, even gold and silver. So it actually does make some sense that some for of him wouuld have to eventually make an apperance, even after first glances it seemed like Sakurai was scrounding around for a character and randomly though "hey... how can I make this guy fight?"

 

[Okysho]

Nobody really cares what Marth's moveset is....
Well, anyone can get into Smash (as long as their respective companies will agree to it).

Just most are VERY VERY UNLIKELY.

But that certainly doesn't mean people can't hope that Sakurai will pull a rabbit out of his hat and put in Ryu Hayabusa. It's just that the odds of me seeing "New Challenger approaching" and suddenly fighting Ryu are so unlikely that it's barely worth considering, he does have a large fanbase, and had his start on a nintendo console, but he's most known for his x-box exploits.

And of course there are still true WTF characters like Gabe Logan from Syphon Filter (has a reasonable fanbase and never appeared on a Nintendo Console), but the odds of it occuring are astronomical.


Never consider anyone except assist trophies and explicit deconfirmations impossible, but of course, we all realize that you're gonna win the lottery twice in a row before Gabe Logan gets into Brawl.

Unless somebody happens to have an explicit deconfirmation of characters that never appeared on Nintendo systems of course.

It is very unlikely that's why there's so much controversy and the ridiculous assumptions that characters like that can make an appearance in brawl at all. People really have to take into account what the characters really have going for them in terms of their links with Nintendo (if they're 3rd part) I.E. Every single sonic game (aside from Sonic next gen) since Dreamcast's downfall has been on a nintendo system. The companies have good relations with each other (not only that but people have been waiting for the Mario vs. Sonic battle for decades).

In the case of Konami, Kojima actually begged Sakurai to allow Snake into brawl, and I personally still think he's the most out of place character EVER.

Not only that, but tons of people (myself included) were sure that Megaman would have the 3rd Third party character slot. Capcom and Nintendo have been pretty well with each other (although more Resi games and some of the Megaman X sequals weren't released for Nintnedo consoles) however that evidence alone may indeed be why Sakurai never contacted Capcom about allowing Megaman into the brawl. (There's a deconformation in the General brawl section. an article, I read it yesterday) howeverin this case there is still some time (about a month) for Sakurai to give capcom a ring and say (hm... We need a new third party character. Can Megaman be in Brawr?) though it still seems unlikely with the amount of time left.

Point I'm trying to make, it's all about the companies relationships with each other, even something as little as all the megaman X sequals (from 4-8) not being on a nintendo system (although they did release a collection of all the X games for GCN) could totally unbalance a relationship between the companies thus altering a character's chance into brawl. These things are fragile when it comes to 3rd parties a single flaw can tip the scale.

(That wasn't over analyzing things was it?)

Now here's something I can't stand. Square character supports. Square and Nintendo are fighting tooth and nail against each other for the RPG world. There's no way in hell that Sora, Cloud or even Dante (although he's capcom too but has never appreared on a nintendo system in his own game) would be put into brawl. Because Square and Nintendo are bitter rivals!

If that seemed like a disagreement, it wasn't supposed to... I'm agreeing with you... in a completely unusual way and giving more evidence to that fact.

 

[y3nia659]

lol not an Ayra alt, she's a girl what about Alm's alt and Leaf's?

 

[Ryudo_Sama]

Doesn't Ike already have a Roy alt?

 

[y3nia659]

Ike wears a Sigurd alt

 

[Ryudo_Sama]

I know that.

 

[adumbrodeus]

It is very unlikely that's why there's so much controversy and the ridiculous assumptions that characters like that can make an appearance in brawl at all. People really have to take into account what the characters really have going for them in terms of their links with Nintendo (if they're 3rd part) I.E. Every single sonic game (aside from Sonic next gen) since Dreamcast's downfall has been on a nintendo system. The companies have good relations with each other (not only that but people have been waiting for the Mario vs. Sonic battle for decades).

In the case of Konami, Kojima actually begged Sakurai to allow Snake into brawl, and I personally still think he's the most out of place character EVER.

Of course, people can't believe that every character that there is a support thread for will get into Brawl, that said, I doubt that most people believe that these unusual third party characters have been chosen for Brawl. It would be a welcome surprise, but highly unlikely in their opinion.

Not only that, but tons of people (myself included) were sure that Megaman would have the 3rd Third party character slot. Capcom and Nintendo have been pretty well with each other (although more Resi games and some of the Megaman X sequals weren't released for Nintnedo consoles) however that evidence alone may indeed be why Sakurai never contacted Capcom about allowing Megaman into the brawl. (There's a deconformation in the General brawl section. an article, I read it yesterday) howeverin this case there is still some time (about a month) for Sakurai to give capcom a ring and say (hm... We need a new third party character. Can Megaman be in Brawr?) though it still seems unlikely with the amount of time left.

Certainly, this sort of thing does happen, though it is possible that people are just keeping their lips locked about it so as not to spoil.

Now here's something I can't stand. Square character supports. Square and Nintendo are fighting tooth and nail against each other for the RPG world. There's no way in hell that Sora, Cloud or even Dante (although he's capcom too but has never appreared on a nintendo system in his own game) would be put into brawl. Because Square and Nintendo are bitter rivals!

Hmmm, square? Square used to be on extremely bad terms with Nintendo because Nintendo refused to switch to disks when they were developing FFVII, so they ended up moving over to Sony and being a Sony-only company for a while.

However they patched things up recently, according to some statements they're gonna start making original numbered FF versions for Nintendo's console as well as Sony's (granted, this was prior to the wii), and they've been doing tons of side-stories and ports for Nintendo consoles, as well as the sequal to one game that wasn't numbered but was enough of a classic that it's name recognition made it so it might as well have been.

Nintendo and Square are no worse off together then your average third-party relationship.

I think you mean Nintendo and SONY, though really Sony doesn't have a whole lot of important first-party characters anyway (and I have yet to see a "Dart (The Legend of the Dragoon, look for it, awesome PSone game) for Brawl" thread.

So yeah, I believe you thought that Square was first party for PS yet still did all it's rpgs. That's not the case, Sony is another, popular, but random third party company that Sony is depending on to drive it's playstation consoles foreward.

Square and Nintendo are not in direct competition for the RPG World, but as one of the most influential rpg companies (especially now with Enix and Square being merged), SONY and Nintendo are in direct conflict to work with Square.

Actually the case for Sora is stronger then Dante because Sora appeared in Chain of Memories, a GBA game, and will appear in an upcoming DS game, whereas Dante never appeared on a Nintendo System.



But still, there is a POSSIBILITY for even characters like Dart (even though Hell would freeze over and the apocalypse would occur before Sony would let it occur), so it's not fair to not let people dream about the possibility, of him or characters who are less close to impossible.

If that seemed like a disagreement, it wasn't supposed to... I'm agreeing with you... in a completely unusual way and giving more evidence to that fact.

Well, something you said caused a disagreement, so it's all good.

 

[IllidR]

How have I NOT posted in this thread until now.. I mean I do main Marth. >.>

Anyway it'd be good to see him return, not my biggest priority because I'm probably going to move onto someone else to master, but I still love him!

 

[Okysho]

Of course, people can't believe that every character that there is a support thread for will get into Brawl, that said, I doubt that most people believe that these unusual third party characters have been chosen for Brawl. It would be a welcome surprise, but highly unlikely in their opinion.

too true, but then you have to wonder what they were thinking when the made that thread to being with...

Certainly, this sort of thing does happen, though it is possible that people are just keeping their lips locked about it so as not to spoil.

Once again too true I completely agree, however the amount of aggravation that the article provided is... de-moralising for Megaman's chances...

Hmmm, square? Square used to be on extremely bad terms with Nintendo because Nintendo refused to switch to disks when they were developing FFVII, so they ended up moving over to Sony and being a Sony-only company for a while.

However they patched things up recently, according to some statements they're gonna start making original numbered FF versions for Nintendo's console as well as Sony's (granted, this was prior to the wii), and they've been doing tons of side-stories and ports for Nintendo consoles, as well as the sequal to one game that wasn't numbered but was enough of a classic that it's name recognition made it so it might as well have been.

Nintendo and Square are no worse off together then your average third-party relationship.

I think you mean Nintendo and SONY, though really Sony doesn't have a whole lot of important first-party characters anyway (and I have yet to see a "Dart (The Legend of the Dragoon, look for it, awesome PSone game) for Brawl" thread.

So yeah, I believe you thought that Square was first party for PS yet still did all it's rpgs. That's not the case, Sony is another, popular, but random third party company that Sony is depending on to drive it's playstation consoles foreward.

Square and Nintendo are not in direct competition for the RPG World, but as one of the most influential rpg companies (especially now with Enix and Square being merged), SONY and Nintendo are in direct conflict to work with Square.

Actually the case for Sora is stronger then Dante because Sora appeared in Chain of Memories, a GBA game, and will appear in an upcoming DS game, whereas Dante never appeared on a Nintendo System.

But still, there is a POSSIBILITY for even characters like Dart (even though Hell would freeze over and the apocalypse would occur before Sony would let it occur), so it's not fair to not let people dream about the possibility, of him or characters who are less close to impossible.

Guess my knowledge is a little outdated... most of it is based on pre-Wii stuff. I.e. during Gamecube's reign there was only 1 actual final fantasy game (not including re-makes) whilst every single sequal was released for PS2.



Well, something you said caused a disagreement, so it's all good.[/QUOTE]

Mah bads I'd rather try and keep things clean around here (except for Marth arguments that can be brutally shot down! Muhhahahahahaaa)

 

[adumbrodeus]

too true, but then you have to wonder what they were thinking when the made that thread to being with...

That it would really be awesome if this character appeared in Brawl, even though it's unlikely.

If they're smart, some people do legitimately need a reality check.

Guess my knowledge is a little outdated... most of it is based on pre-Wii stuff. I.e. during Gamecube's reign there was only 1 actual final fantasy game (not including re-makes) whilst every single sequal was released for PS2.

True, but at that point they were in negotiations, really Square actually making a game for a Nintendo System was what actually showed the change, everything else was just icing on the cake.

Still, Nintendo and Square have never been rivals, for a time they didn't work together, but that's a different story.

Mah bads I'd rather try and keep things clean around here (except for Marth arguments that can be brutally shot down! Muhhahahahahaaa)

Oh, there's nothing wrong with a respectful disagreement, as long as everyone stays civil, and it's a related topic, it's all good.

 

[Okysho]

That it would really be awesome if this character appeared in Brawl, even though it's unlikely.

If they're smart, some people do legitimately need a reality check.
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So how about joke threads though? it may seem silly to bring them up, but I mean come on... the people who either make up characters or say something stupid like "Master Chief for brawl!" it's just kinda like WTF?! why would you say somethign like that? or is it just because I have no sense of humour and don't find these funny? that being said, how many people actually DO find them funny?

 

[NukeA6]

Sigurd, Ayra, and Roy should be alts for Marth, each with their own voices (and Roy with fire). Just thought of this.

Wario will be the only one with a real alt. Oh well, Marth can still have pallettes of the lords:

Alm- Green Hair, tunic completely blue, and maybe no cape
Leaf- Brown hair, white tunic,
Roy-Red hair, white and blue (though it probably would be red) tunic
Ephraim- Green hair, greenish-blue tunic
Micaiah-Silver hair,purple tunic

Now for a non-lord

Shiva-Black hair, black tunic

 

[ZenJestr]

Wario might be the only one with an alt.

2 other languages say he's just a special case which could mean that his alts. get recolors too or that he is one of the pplz with alts.......I dunno about the Japanese one cuz frankly I cant read/speak it....

 

[raphtmarqui]

I wonder whats gunna happen to Dr Mario.

 

[Roy-Kun]

Wario will be the only one with a real alt. Oh well, Marth can still have pallettes of the lords:

Alm- Green Hair, tunic completely blue, and maybe no cape
Leaf- Brown hair, white tunic,
Roy-Red hair, white and blue (though it probably would be red) tunic
Ephraim- Green hair, greenish-blue tunic
Micaiah-Silver hair,purple tunic

Now for a non-lord

Shiva-Black hair, black tunic

Um... I don't want to see Leaf, Roy or Ephraim with a tiara.

Excuse me... it doesn't fits em'.

 

[Okysho]

I wonder whats gunna happen to Dr Mario.

Nothing I think he's gone

 

[adumbrodeus]

So how about joke threads though? it may seem silly to bring them up, but I mean come on... the people who either make up characters or say something stupid like "Master Chief for brawl!" it's just kinda like WTF?! why would you say somethign like that? or is it just because I have no sense of humour and don't find these funny? that being said, how many people actually DO find them funny?

That just depends on what you find funny.

Joke thread=/= actual support threads.


Of course, some people might love to see Master Chief appear in Brawl, as long as they realize that there's a better chance of them winning the lottery 4 times in a row it's all good.

 

[WingedKnight]

I wouldn't mind Marth's return. He's distinct enough from Ike, and pretty popular. Just my two cents, I could care less if he is or isn't in.

 

[lumberheartwood]

I love how organized and authoritive you pointed out that Marth should be back in. I'm a huge supporter for his comeback and I can't wait to see him in America when he makes his return in FE11.

 

[Okysho]

That just depends on what you find funny.

Joke thread=/= actual support threads.


Of course, some people might love to see Master Chief appear in Brawl, as long as they realize that there's a better chance of them winning the lottery 4 times in a row it's all good.

lol right again! you win!

 

[Okysho]

I love how organized and authoritive you pointed out that Marth should be back in. I'm a huge supporter for his comeback and I can't wait to see him in America when he makes his return in FE11.

FE11 I'll buy a DS JUST for that game!!

 

[Okysho]

Happy Holidays Everybody!!!!!

 

[Dark Sonic]

Merry Christmas Marth supporters

 

[y3nia659]

Happy Holidays Everybody!!!!!

thanks, happy holidays to you too.

 

[Ryudo_Sama]

I say Marth should be a starter instead of Ike.

 

[Doodx]

marth is already in and the full roster must have already been finished so marth could be in tyhe starting roster but probably not

 

[NukeA6]

Um... I don't want to see Leaf, Roy or Ephraim with a tiara.

Excuse me... it doesn't fits em'.

These are just pallettes. Not the actual characters themselves. It's just like Mario with Luigi colors.

 

[Okysho]

marth is already in and the full roster must have already been finished so marth could be in tyhe starting roster but probably not

lol too true and with the way the updates are going, we'll probably se ehis new design soon! ^_^

 

[Ryudo_Sama]

lol too true and with the way the updates are going, we'll probably se ehis new design soon! ^_^

Hope he looks cool.

 

[Okysho]

What do you think it'll be? A cross between his FE3 and 11 self or an altered version of the Smash bros one?

 

[Ryudo_Sama]

What do you think it'll be? A cross between his FE3 and 11 self or an altered version of the Smash bros one?

Probably an altered version of the Smash Bros one.

 

[Okysho]

yeah but ther re-dseign for FE11 is done, so don't you think they would have implamented some of those features into his brawl design?

 

[Ryudo_Sama]

yeah but ther re-dseign for FE11 is done, so don't you think they would have implamented some of those features into his brawl design?

I guess they would. Anyways, I think Marth will probably speak English this time around.

 

[Okysho]

I think so too, since his next game will be international, what do you suppose he'll sound like? Do you think he'll have a gentle voice like he did in the anime? Or would they give him something deeper?

 

[Ryudo_Sama]

I think so too, since his next game will be international, what do you suppose he'll sound like? Do you think he'll have a gentle voice like he did in the anime? Or would they give him something deeper?

Probably not deep like Meta Knight's. Maybe something a bit more smoother.