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The Marth Support Thread - Fire Emblem's First Lord is Confirmed!

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Marth's sword movements are graceful and agile, while Ike has a rigid and reckless kind of sword style in battle. I don't know about Marth's personality since I never played his game, but Ike is a character that has a rash personality, related to his sword play. Yes, they are very different.
 
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Corax The Cold said:
Sakurai watching tournament videos: oh Shi... marth is too good.

Sakurai watching tournament videos: oh Shi... fox/shiek/falco/doc/ganon/peach/Ics/etc... is too good.

he hasnt been announced as a veteran yet and don't you think he would have been announced b4 december 3rd? the original release date?

Neither have Falcon or Luigi

Ike is the new age of Marth, why? well are they really going to have 2 blue haired, japanese, swordsmen, that are both from the same game sereis?? no, i don't think so anymore.

We can.
Especially since the two have little in common

I personally am fine with marth, and i know the if he was in he'd be balanced, or they might even over compensate and nerf him to hell like they did with Kirby in melee.

I doubt it. The only things really cheap about Marth is his grab range and tipper

but sorry marth fans, i think its a safe bet to start looking for a new main (or you could just keep on playing melee rofl)

Or Marth could be in Brawl >_>
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Good day, sir.
 
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Sonic Wave said:
I meant Zevox being awesome. But then again, anyone who supports Marth is awesome anyway.:laugh:
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Zevox is pretty awesome. It's nice to see new members around that actually know what they're talking about. That's quite a rarity.
 
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i think that we can all agree that both Okysho and Zevox are awesome! withouth them there would be no Marth support thread, and how could there be no Marth support thread? (there can't)
Heres to Okysho and Zevox! *KANPAI*
 
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thethirdkoopa said:
I Think Zevox will laugh his crud off once he see's what i managed to do in WG'S Prediction thread :laugh: Yeah...I Win if he can't give me a valid excuse on takamaru.

Oh and this thread is win :p.
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I saw it, pretty cool.


I think the issue is that a lot of people don't really internalize that other people might care about characters that they aren't familiar with.

In this case, everyone assumes that everyone became familiar with Marth with melee, but that's not true, the Japanese audience knew about him a long time before then.


Furthermore, part of prediction needs to be the realization that Sakurai is also effected by his own biases, and characters that he cares about are much more likely to get into Brawl, he's far more likely to be directly biased towards a character that is highly popular in Japan, and far less likely to internalize the popularity of a character who's fanbase is elsewhere.


Thus characters that are popular in Japan are still more likely, if only for those reasons.



The character he brought as a counter, you gotta realize, he's essentially a wtf character, that's his charm, thus anybody can recognize him on those merits, as opposed to a character that is Mega-popular yet you never knew about.
 
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adumbrodeus said:
I saw it, pretty cool.


I think the issue is that a lot of people don't really internalize that other people might care about characters that they aren't familiar with.

In this case, everyone assumes that everyone became familiar with Marth with melee, but that's not true, the Japanese audience knew about him a long time before then.


Furthermore, part of prediction needs to be the realization that Sakurai is also effected by his own biases, and characters that he cares about are much more likely to get into Brawl, he's far more likely to be directly biased towards a character that is highly popular in Japan, and far less likely to internalize the popularity of a character who's fanbase is elsewhere.


Thus characters that are popular in Japan are still more likely, if only for those reasons.



The character he brought as a counter, you gotta realize, he's essentially a wtf character, that's his charm, thus anybody can recognize him on those merits, as opposed to a character that is Mega-popular yet you never knew about.
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What exactly are you getting at with this post? Takamaru and Marth are both Japanese characters, so that second paragraph is kind of irrelevent. Takamaru's WTF status should never be considered enough to replace a Mega-Popular character/Mega-Important Character to his series/Vetran/Unique character/Star of up-comming game in a major series. Yes, Takamaru could be a cool inclusion, but having him as a Marth replacement is just stupid. I don't care if he makes it in or not, but what I'm saying is that his inclusion is in no way what so ever tied to Marth's inclusion.
 
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like nuke said, this is starting to become zevox and okysho thread
 
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Sonic Wave said:
What exactly are you getting at with this post? Takamaru and Marth are both Japanese characters, so that second paragraph is kind of irrelevent. Takamaru's WTF status should never be considered enough to replace a Mega-Popular character/Mega-Important Character to his series/Vetran/Unique character/Star of up-comming game in a major series. Yes, Takamaru could be a cool inclusion, but having him as a Marth replacement is just stupid. I don't care if he makes it in or not, but what I'm saying is that his inclusion is in no way what so ever tied to Marth's inclusion.
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It's mostly a general rundown of why most people don't think Marth will get in and why it's idiotic.


Oh, didn't mention that if people aren't directly exposed to it, they tend to consider all popularity equal without realizing it.
 
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Gaaaah. I hate it when my freind is all like... "Oooh Look at me! Im Marth check out my amazingly gay dolphin dive move! and dont forget about my gay girly tiara Ooooh".

then im all like...

1.) its dolphin Slash. not dive.
2.) the Tiara was his sisters. she died. he wears it to honor her.

it never helps X.X sorry to randomly post..


Marth for Brawl! with DS look!. except better!
 
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adumbrodeus said:
It's mostly a general rundown of why most people don't think Marth will get in and why it's idiotic.


Oh, didn't mention that if people aren't directly exposed to it, they tend to consider all popularity equal without realizing it.
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Once again I must agree... but I suppose you can call it hypocritical since I kinda do it too, most people won't support a character because they don't really like them (or keep getting pwned with them) so they think that certain characters shouldn't be included. If not for that reason, it's because they base their facts on American popularity alone (for the character that they seem to want to be axed) which is almost NEVER the case since smash bros is a Japanese game and the character inclusions are based more on the character popularity from Japan and more so of what they want, (within reason) while still keeping their Japan only inclusions to a minimum to increase international favourism within the game. Think about it.

Also, sorry for all the random cheering... didn't mean to take attention away from the thread's main purpose...

Mah bads!


Okysho out!
 
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aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh marth, yyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhh my friends hate playing me they official declared our diehard melee gaming off.

Black Marth "loki" you got my support
 
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i actualy dont mind marth keepin his tiara why will u make his game different just for the look? hes ok just like he is and no one can prove that he is gay since hes engaged and if they say he looks girly then give him a frickin spike with marth and show him whos the girl!
 
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Okysho said:
Once again I must agree... but I suppose you can call it hypocritical since I kinda do it too, most people won't support a character because they don't really like them (or keep getting pwned with them) so they think that certain characters shouldn't be included. If not for that reason, it's because they base their facts on American popularity alone (for the character that they seem to want to be axed) which is almost NEVER the case since smash bros is a Japanese game and the character inclusions are based more on the character popularity from Japan and more so of what they want, (within reason) while still keeping their Japan only inclusions to a minimum to increase international favourism within the game. Think about it.

Also, sorry for all the random cheering... didn't mean to take attention away from the thread's main purpose...

Mah bads!


Okysho out!
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Well, supporting a character is one thing, you logically only support a character if you want him/her to get in.

But deciding if a character will get in or not, that you should attempt to ignor your biases and think only about what helps or hurts a character's chances.

Of course, you can hope your prefered character gets in irreguardless, but hoping is not the same as logically realizing that a character has a low or high chace.
 
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adumbrodeus said:
Well, supporting a character is one thing, you logically only support a character if you want him/her to get in.

But deciding if a character will get in or not, that you should attempt to ignor your biases and think only about what helps or hurts a character's chances.

Of course, you can hope your prefered character gets in irreguardless, but hoping is not the same as logically realizing that a character has a low or high chace.
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Too true, but that doesn't mean the people will do it.... they're always too lazy and make assumptions like that based on their own personal preferences, like the people on the prediction threads and even a few of the Mods... but you can't change people, so I guess the only thing you can do is to be as non-biased as you can whilst you support other characters.

Having said that, people are taking this newcommer thing much too far and blowing it WAY out of proportion. They think all of a sudden that no rescrictions apply (see store for details! I made a funny! yes? oh...) and that ANY character could now be in smash. I can't say I completely agree with that, but people forget too often that they have to have been on a nintendo system (in the case of third party characters) and have to have a MASSIVE fanbase in order to obtain a position in the game. Hence on of Marth's main weapons at hand in pwning the non-believers, but either way that case still applies with any character. The problem I have with certain cahracters that people suggest is that they have a small fanbase and/or they're not of nintnendo origin and/or have not been on a nintendo system.

I see a lot of people taking this the wrong way but it's not like I can smite them all or anything...

Thank god Marth has popularity on his side!
 
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i believe marth's moveset will be in the game in one way or another. as marth or roy or some entirely new F.E. toon. so i wouldn't be too worried about that.
 
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Chiastic said:
i believe marth's moveset will be in the game in one way or another. as marth or roy or some entirely new F.E. toon. so i wouldn't be too worried about that.
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How come people post here without even reading the first page?

BTW, it's not just Marth's moveset that we want (though it is really cool), we want Marth.
 
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Yeah... what makes you think we play Marth just because he has major skills, (although I'm not denying that) We play as Marth because he's an awesome character! How many Ancient hero decendents with dead sisters that are engaged, (with blue hair) and are royalty do you know? Exactly!!! Mwahahahahahaaa!!!

in the words of Sakurai:

Me=Win!
 
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in smyn they said that they doubt his return dont take it badly but thats wat they said and i wont say their reason cuz we already explained it many times
 
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SP said in the latest one that they wont add 2 blue-haired swordsmen...
 
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