THE Mario Guide (LEDGE TRICKS/PLANKING FINISHED [i think])

[1 800 brawlr]

very helpful tips, ty

 

[mario brawler]

in the guide you should fix the definition of sheild breaking better
something along the lines of ontinously reflecting a projectile with your special move will break your reflector and leave you in a stunned state ; or some thing
and does mario have a grab release on G&W? I think yuo put that in their as chain grab or something
btw, awesome guide good stuff there 101

 

[Minish Blade]

Awesome guide we got now. *Bows*

 

[Blad01]

Is there a way to cut the RCO lag ? ._. This is so annoying with Mario oO

 

[Matador]

I usually Bair right before I land. It replaces the RCO lag with the Fastfalled Bair lag, which is virtually nothing. It's not save though since you're generally facing the wrong way when you ledgehop. Nair and Uair do the same thing.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Is there a way to cut the RCO lag ? ._. This is so annoying with Mario oO

DAMMIT WHERE IS MY TOPIC WHEN YOU NEED IT?

So anyhow, someone put this up please:

Ways to work around Mario's RCO lag:
*Do an aerial and land with it (don't autocancel). B-air, N-air, and U-air work best. You can ledgehop B-air by doing a Cape and then ledgehopping with your back facing the stage.
*Ledgehop autocanceled Fireball. This only ignores RCO lag and doesn't use it up. Next time you land you have to deal with it.
*Ledgehop FLUDD charge stance (when you use this, wait til you land on stage, then you get to shield or roll. This is the fastest way to initiate a shield or roll upon doing a ledgejump. This doesn't use up your RCO lag either keep in mind, just bypasses it).

 

[Matador]

....I seriously hate this lag more and more everytime I play. Mario's options from the ledge are already terrible as it is without making him immobile for half a second.

 

[Blad01]

Oh nice, thank you guys

 

[A2ZOMG]

....I seriously hate this lag more and more everytime I play. Mario's options from the ledge are already terrible as it is without making him immobile for half a second.

Actually I find Mario's edge options are above average. Mario is one of the better characters at safely stalling at the ledge, and ledgehop B-air is simply great and if you know how to space it, you can either choose to land with it, or autocancel it with another edge grab. Mario is also able to autocancel Fireballs at the edge.

The RCO lag just means you have to be smart about ledge getups. Honestly, once I make it to the ledge, I really don't have trouble getting back up safely against most characters. It's about knowing your opponent's ledge trap options.

 

[Judge Judy]

On most stages I just wall jump immediately after releasing the ledge and buffer the wall jump into a Bair; takes a little bit of practice to get the timing down to do a wall jump immediately after a ledge drop, but not that hard and worth learning.

 

[Matador]

On most stages I just wall jump immediately after releasing the ledge and buffer the wall jump into a Bair; takes a little bit of practice to get the timing down to do a wall jump immediately after a ledge drop, but not that hard and worth learning.

I think I'll steal this

10larcenys

 

[A2ZOMG]

Honestly, it's not worth wall jump ledgehopping except on Yoshis. And of course you can't even do this on stages without a wall leading up to the ledge.

It's much safer to just do a Cape and ledgehop B-air.

 

[Judge Judy]

Honestly, it's not worth wall jump ledgehopping except on Yoshis. And of course you can't even do this on stages without a wall leading up to the ledge.

Actually, you can; I'm talking about a wall jump as soon as you release the ledge, like at about the same time you release the ledge. This trick works on all stages other than stages with pass-through ledges, like the main platform on Deflino.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Hmmm...I gotta try this out sometime then.

And of course we gotta see if Boss knows about it. =P

 

[Mario_ 101]

yea its pretty useful. i should add it in im guessing lol. i been really lazy w/ updates lately >_> its gud mixing it up w/ ledge drop->cape->b air, or jump off ledge, cape b air and other things.

 

[Matador]

oh yeah..I know what you're talking about. I do it alot on the waiting room on wifi. You can do it every time?

I can't do it anywhere else.

 

[Judge Judy]

oh yeah..I know what you're talking about. I do it alot on the waiting room on wifi. You can do it every time?

I can't do it anywhere else.

Yah, it works on most stages; BF, FD, and Smashville to name a few. I've even done it on Lylat a few times, although it's pretty hard to do on that particular stage...

 

[A2ZOMG]

Just found this floating around on one of Matador's vids, and this is a good example of how much range F-smash has.

 

[Rizen]

In item options, you can disable pity final smashes by turning off the smashball item specifically but 'all items off' will only stop the smashball's appearance.
You could add this to your smash terms. Otherwise great guide.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

In item options, you can disable pity final smashes by turning off the smashball item specifically but 'all items off' will only stop the smashball's appearance.
You could add this to your smash terms. Otherwise great guide.

That's not really necessary because I don't think any of us actually play with items. And, setting all items to "Off" and "None" stops Pity Final Smashes too.

 

[Kanzaki]

Doraki's Instant Wall Jump!!


wait.. =/

 

[Mario_ 101]

I'll try updating the guide after next week and throughout summer. its been way too long since the guide has had any major work to it. i'll also restart the cp thread, probably around the end of next week. finals are really close to happening for me so yeah :[/>

 

[Death Hunter52]

The best Mario strategy out there....Switch to MetaKnight

 

[:mad:]

The best Mario strategy out there....Switch to MetaKnight

I hate you.

 

[Terra~]

This is a really good guide, thanks to all that contributed<3

 

[vato_break]

Mario101 please take out information that is not in relation with mario's metagame and try to clean it up..

 

[Mario_ 101]

Yeah... sorry guys I haven't updated or done anything in a while like I said I would... it's just my irl life has been a huge mess lately. I'll devote my time today to cleaning this guide up and whatnot.

 

[JUDGE]

it's ok man^^
we still love ya^^ (no homo)

 

[vato_break]

we need a guide like this except not as sloppy/more updated, with useful information.

 

[Chaosgriffin]

Hey mario people, I did not see a Q&A thread so I though I would post it here. How well does mario play on battlefield? good - neutral - bad?

 

[Veggi]

Good, probably his best neutral. Possibly his best stage in general. First character is best on the first stage, makes sense, haha.

 

[mars16]

I think he's great on battle stage, maybe to easy but I think its his best stage