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Woah, no, i can't agree to that. Roy is nowhere near a clone to Marth as Lucina and Dark Pit are. I'd compare Roy to Dr.Mario in terms of cloneness.As it stands, Roy in Melee is as much of a clone as Dark Pit. Dr. Mario and Wolf are more differentiated from Mario and Fox, respectively. This is a fact, I'm afraid. That doesn't mean he deserves the hate though, of course.
I was comparing
to . Yeah, if you comapre and , then he's closer to on the scale of clone-ness.
Imo the comparison still stands forI was comparing
to . Melee Roy has t3h ph1r3 and about all of his moves have different hitboxes, sourspots, sweetspots, etc. as well as other stuff like different fall speed and weight whereas only some of Dark Pit's moves are different from Pit's, and the only aesthetic changes are Silver Bow and Electroshock Arm.
Both sides should take it to the K. Rool thread.
That said it's been a while since we saw a detractor around here. I'm looking forward to the ensuing debate.
Add Gen 3 pokemon so I can post Blaziken!!
Seems like a reallly arbitrary criteria to decide from on what theme should be played in reveal trailers.
That's actually a good song to since both the song and Roy are from same system. (Unless Attack was in 7 and 8)Mewtwo used the Gen II Victory Road remix from Brawl. It's rather unrelated to him, although it did fit his trailer. My guess would beWaluigi PinballAttack! from Brawl.
Or a new remix. Kongo Jungle already has no less than 400 remixes in Smash, why can't the classic FE recruit theme?
4 actually...
This reads like a K. Rool support post with how much of a self parody it is. Being heavy in of itself isn't exactly a huge benefit when it just makes them more vulnerable for characters like Sheik to destroy, it's a rather unimportant part of the balancing process compared to balancing the moves ignoring the weight. Regardless, yes, many people prefer this playstyle, and many of the existing newcomers have overlap with the main roster due to how overwhelmingly generic they are.
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I don't have them turned off, every single other thread I watch gives me notifications. But I think I fixed it, I got one for your post.
This actually happens to me sometimes.
I was hoping for a revamped Flare Blade where Roy charges his blade by holding the sword above him and lunges his sword similar to his FE6 animation though the old Melee neutral B works. I made a custom revamped moveset for him.
Jab, Same as Marth/Lucina's./Altered forward-tilt, Would lunge his sword at his opponent horizontally./Altered dash attack, keeping the sword near his chest as opposed to swinging lower to the ground.Altered up-tilt attack, keeping it close and dangerous but covering more towards his body. Would be a bit more weaker in the game.Altered down-tilt attack, Similar to Shulk's down tilt but with the same effect it had in Melee./New Forward Smash; Similar to the Mii Swordfighter Forward Smash, Roy brings his sword towards him and then lunges his sword at his opponent.New Up Smash; Roy thrusts his sword skyward, nudging his opponent above him, and after a small delay, the tip of the sword explodesNew Down Smash, Since Roy's going to have a new Side B, he can have this move as his down Smash instead only it would need to be a bit nerfed from what you see in the above picture. Neutral Air: Same as Marth and Lucina's Neutral Air only with a fire effect./Forward Air: Same as Marth and Lucina's./Back Air: Similar to his PM Back Air.Up Air: Same as Marth and Lucina'sDown Air: Same as Marth and Lucina'sRevamped Flare Blade: The move would have the same effect it had in Melee only the animation would be similar to the one he had in Fire Emblem 6. He would hold his sword upwards (while the sword is on fire) instead of holding it near his shoulder and would lunge his sword at his opponent instead of slamming his sword on the ground./Flare Charge: A brand new Side B for Roy that lets him charge and shoot a fireball from his sword. His start up animation would be similar to Ike's Side B and he would be able to charge up his fireball for higher damage and knockback.Revamped Blazer: Similar to the Blazer he had in Melee only he moves in a 360 degree angle that gives him great horizontal recovery and good vertical recovery.Double-Edged Counter: Roy's counter from Melee combined with his Double-Edged Dance from Melee since he uses a different Side B (at least with this moveset). He would counter like normal as he does in Melee only he would be able to use his Double-Edged dance upon countering. A great defensive tool for Roy to use.Ultimate Flare (Final Smash): Similar to Marth and Lucina's animation for their Final Smash's, Roy goes from one side of the stage to the other and unleashes a massive eruption that deals 70% damage to anyone that comes in to contact with the eruption.
I hope he gets something better than that wimpy-ass Dancing Blade they gave Marth and Lucina. I want something with substance and formidable kill power; something where each step and variation thereof of the dance has meaning, and there's actually a degree of finesse in its execution.
Whilst it would suffice for being visually different, people will still find reasons to complain for being another Fire Emblem sword wielder with chargeable neutral B/counter down B.
...You've successfully broken down my wall of "not having too much hope lest I be painfully disappointed."
I've been thinking about this for some time. If Marth's game was able to get remade, then certainly the game that was responsible for getting western fans in to the series would follow suit. Not only that but this would be the perfect opportunity to not only remake an old classic but to give Western fans the sequel that they never got to play (as far as official releases are concerned lol). Also a great chance to fix Roy's stats seeing as people complain endlessly about that and maybe flesh out his personality a bit more. Would be the perfect way to coincide with Roy being released as DLC for Smash 4.
If my memory serves me correctly, wasn't Roy originally introduced in smash prior to the release of his actual game as a marketing move? If they released Roy for smash as a set up for a FE6 remake just as they did with the original title, it would be amazingly ironic...
I'd call it appropriate, not ironic.
And then watch Sakurai & team get a special thanks in the FE6 remake credits (again)...
