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The Lucas General Discussion

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I was laughing because of it's bluntness but also because at the fact that it isn't the big reason why Ness>Lucas.

I love Lucas' tether.
 

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I think if Lucas' tether had a hitbox, it would be a lot more fun to abuse and I feel Mekos' playstyle would annoy his opponents much much more than it does now since he uses Zair a lot to space/fake-out.
 

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It happens to me all the time... basically, it extends really far sometimes, reaches but then lets go. And then you gotta wait for it to get back to you.

Basically if it does that you're dead or you gotta do somethin crazeh.

Or just recover if you still can.
 

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You can still recover from that flop. You also just gotta know/remember the limitations of Snakey.
 

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Thanks for all the info:bee:. I can see Ness' close game and keeping the opponent out plus better strong kill options boosting him above Lucas a few spots. Grabs/avoiding them is a big part of Brawl too. Ness' Fair does help him avoid a lot of gimps.
Ness/Lucas are hard to say who's better but that did help me understand their individual strengths/weakness. Ness is ranked better but only by 2 tier spots. He's in another tier class though:c.
Thanks:)
It happens to me all the time... basically, it extends really far sometimes, reaches but then lets go. And then you gotta wait for it to get back to you.
Link has this problem, lol.
"Note: Link’s tether recoveries are not 100% consistent; if Link’s barely too far, has already tethered the ledge 3 times without landing, the opponent’s edgehogging, the stage tilts (Lylat etc) or on rare occasion for no good reason, his clawshot will not grab the ledge or Zair. Tap down to cut the tether and immediately UpB recover if this happens."
-something I wrote. That works with all Zair tethers and you can tap down to cut the tether (not Zair's attack if it has one) then upB and/or 2nd jump if you've saved it.
I think all Zair type tether grabs and some other tether grabs like ZSS would rather have fast, short grabs instead:urg:.
 

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Rizen, play me soon at the next smashfest/tourny we are both at. I'll show ya some fun things with Lucas and some medicore things with Ness (my lucas is loads better but I don't have the worst Ness :p)
 

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Let me get downstairs, I have a new wii number, but I could go for a few rounds.

I am bouncing with joy right now. I got casted in my college's fall play! I didn't expect anything as a freshman in my college but I am not complaining!!!
 

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Let me get downstairs, I have a new wii number, but I could go for a few rounds.

I am bouncing with joy right now. I got casted in my college's fall play! I didn't expect anything as a freshman in my college but I am not complaining!!!
That's cool, what's the play?
 

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The play is called Glimpses. I am just so happy to be a part of it as a freshman in my college because I didn't expect anything at all.

Btw, my new brawl code is:

1249-6115-9166
 

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Kk already online and waiting. Since I had to swap wiis, you are the first added on my new friends list haha.

I need to sit down and get all the characters again....^^"
 

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Now everytime you get on Brawl you'll see the name Blue.

My life is complete.

I hate regetting all the characters, it's 2 easy but boring.

Hosting now!
 

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I know right? I gotta go to bed it's almost past 12. Good Games tho, and dat Ness ditto LOL.

Jab Locks <3

I'm probably gonna use the Brinstar and PKT2 kill on the first match kills for a CV if I manage to make one.
 

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Haha i have no clue what compelled me to go Kirby. *shrug* That PKT2 kill was hilarious because my mind was just like "Oh he is dead" Blue: "Lol nope, surprise kill!"

GGs Blue! I am very very curious to see how your Lucas would fair offline. Try to come to Apex, eh?

Dittos ;_;
 

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I think Lucas is better than Ness, but the difference is so negligible that they might as well be equal. My previous thoughts were probably a little bias

Fangamer Kickstarter @ 10k
 

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I really want to go to Apex, I doubt I could place well but I really wanna do some offline tourny...

Not even sure if I'm good enough yet.

And yeah, LOL I was like

"SURPRISE MOTHA F- *Lucas gets hit and flies*"

I imagined the look on your face, I usually recover from awkward angles and people are just like "what".

Also, I finally got the midair PKT loop!

Took me 10000 tries

Jamwa, you seem to know a lot about fangamer, do you know when the Yoyo and Hoody for the combo's (Shirt Ness and the Starman Hoody) will be in stock?

Idk how often they restock so yeah..
 

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for real though... ness' superior grab game is a pretty significant reason why he's considered better than lucas imo. having a quick option that beats shield is not something to be taken for granted. plus, grab -> b-throw is a reliable kill - something that lucas lacks.

but more generally, i feel that ness is much better at being safe =\
 

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for real though... ness' superior grab game is a pretty significant reason why he's considered better than lucas imo. having a quick option that beats shield is not something to be taken for granted. plus, grab -> b-throw is a reliable kill - something that lucas lacks.

but more generally, i feel that ness is much better at being safe =\
The Bthrow is a good point, once Ness has someone in kill range, his grab will make them run in terror.

Lucas can't even kill Snake til like 180%
 

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Dude, half of your kills had me like *face floor* because they were some of the weirdest kills so then I would try some tricks of my own to match your wonkiness. :)

Regardless, you should come and join the rest of us Lucas mains there.

@TB: Lucas has a garunteed Kill throw as well the only difference is about 20-30% of damage which isn't too much.

Speaking of which, TB, you should get on skype sometime. I feel we would have some good convos whether it would be brawl or life.
 

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I have Skype too, you should add me.

Blueberry-Syrup

I wanna join you guys, but Idk if I can even afford it, nor do I know anything about the price to get there.

By the way is it just me or did everytime I do an Usmash the lava threw Kirby straight at me LOL
 

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Added ya on Skype. Uhm I would ask FAE on how much it would cost since you guys would be the closest to each other iirc, Mekos maybe as well.

For me it is costing around 500 dollars in total. x_X But I have set aside some money for this so I don't mind.
 

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Blue im pretty sure they are restocking it, but if you want to check you can post on a dedicated fangamer forum on starmen.net and ask.
I bought mine (awesomeness combo) which was M about 2 months ago, and i wear XS but it still fit me really well

silly australia, wish i could play wfi :(
 

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Im gonna get a job soon so maybe I'll save up enough money for the trip.


I'd need a large lol...

Might even go with XL, I'm 6'4-6'5 and I won't stop growing -.-

I hate being tall.

J read my edit, because I swear that's what happened every time.
 

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yeah but landing the grab for the d-throw as lucas is much harder. meanwhile, ness has the best grab frame data in the game lol

i'm on skype quite a bit... i just haven't been in the dgames group for a while now. tblock007 if you wanna add me ^^ lucas main chat? =D
 

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Dude, that is totally what happened during those matches on brinstar. The fire was playing on your side and taking a biased side.

Also *brofist* for being 6'4" as well.

I remember the first time I went to a big tourney and met Nasty and he was surprised at the height difference between us. xD
 

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yeah but landing the grab for the d-throw as lucas is much harder. meanwhile, ness has the best grab frame data in the game lol

i'm on skype quite a bit... i just haven't been in the dgames group for a while now. tblock007 if you wanna add me ^^ lucas main chat? =D
Lol true at the first.

I am not in the DGames group since like over a year ago haha. However, I did add ya and will put you and Blue in the Lucas/Ness main chat.
 

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Ooh could you add me in the chats? you got me added already J; I'm Jamie Cagorski

im like 4 foot (i dunno look at the profile i posted in the ness boards)

anyone here play DooootA?
 

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Trust me, that's all I do with that chat because most of it is Ness mains idk...^^"

do this

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without the * and there ya go.
 
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