pineappleupsetshark
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Explain why Pichu and Jigglypuff were important to the franchise, and THEN we'll explain why Lucario's important.
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This isn't Melee... THIS IS BRAWL. Melee was rushed, while Brawl is being perfected. Why else would Pichu be a clone character? Isn't everyone on the threads saying he's going to be removed anyways?Explain why Pichu and Jigglypuff were important to the franchise, and THEN we'll explain why Lucario's important.
No intention to flame or anything but...So I'll ask it again.
Give me one good reason why Lucario is NECESSARY to the Pokemon franchise.
So? Marth was from the original and third Fire Emblems, yet he was paired with Roy aswell. You know why? Roy was there to PROMOTE the next Fire Emblem (which was 6 at the time) so that more people would buy it. Why not have Lucario to promote D/P even more? Why shouldn't they put in a character which has been shown to be popular, to make the fans happy, and be more likely to buy Brawl?Characters like Mewtwo and Jigglypuff both have reached a type of popular/mascot status just like Pikachu from the Red and Blue Pokemon game, which if I recall was the first pokemon game. Which was the original game that set the foundation for the entire series all together.
Try answering theirs aswell, instead of sidestepping everything everyone says with this "You answered my question with another question" bull****.Just like the others, you answered my question with another question.
I'll answer your question. He is the most popular 4th Gen Pokemon, he has his own movie and he'd be a good representative for D/P. That is three good reasons which make him far more likely than any other Pokemon.Give me one good reason why Lucario is NECESSARY to the Pokemon franchise.
Umm, actually it is, Rescue dungeon has sold 6 million copies worldwide.Wow... rescue dungeon.... that's a real winner there.
All I can say is this: True to that, FerreTrip.*sighs* Sandy, we ARE answering you. In the best way we can. But yer bein' a stubborn lil' chain-jerker. So here's my answer.
At first, in the beginning, 4th gen was being promoted by Gonbe. But then, Nintendo wanted to promote it in a way that would attract the more grown-up, otaku-y crowd. So who could they use that wasn't a mascot legendary? Ruks, that who. He's one of the coolest-looking 4th gens, with a serious vibe to him, so that attracted the cover-judgers. Then he was revealed to use aura/waves, and soon his story unfolded.
In case you didn't realize it, Lucario has the biggest, most in-depth and striking backstory for a pokémon since Mewtwo.
He was essential to get the word out about D/P to audiences, who could find out he's a poké in there you could get. I know, I'm saying he's essential as a big ad ploy, but don't worry, sir.
He's pretty effin' good in the game, too, and has a great type matchup with his part-steel type(well, cept against ground types...). He can use Me First rather early, a good strategic attack. Without him, Aura Sphere might not exist. He's awesome. But that's as far as I can go, unless you get your head outta yer *** and remember why the other four got in last round: OVERALL popularity.
And that's all, since I'm getting to the end of my Wii's message box.
Game Freak nor nintendo never said why they put lucario out... So all that blathering on about how he's cool and he attracts people doesn't really make sense... Maybe... just maybe... They wanted to show a new pokemon from the fourth gen... >_>;*sighs* Sandy, we ARE answering you. In the best way we can. But yer bein' a stubborn lil' chain-jerker. So here's my answer.
At first, in the beginning, 4th gen was being promoted by Gonbe. But then, Nintendo wanted to promote it in a way that would attract the more grown-up, otaku-y crowd. So who could they use that wasn't a mascot legendary? Ruks, that who. He's one of the coolest-looking 4th gens, with a serious vibe to him, so that attracted the cover-judgers. Then he was revealed to use aura/waves, and soon his story unfolded.
In case you didn't realize it, Lucario has the biggest, most in-depth and striking backstory for a pokémon since Mewtwo.
He was essential to get the word out about D/P to audiences, who could find out he's a poké in there you could get. I know, I'm saying he's essential as a big ad ploy, but don't worry, sir.
He's pretty effin' good in the game, too, and has a great type matchup with his part-steel type(well, cept against ground types...). He can use Me First rather early, a good strategic attack. Without him, Aura Sphere might not exist. He's awesome. But that's as far as I can go, unless you get your head outta yer *** and remember why the other four got in last round: OVERALL popularity.
And that's all, since I'm getting to the end of my Wii's message box.
I said that cause if you read the post that i quoted... The person said that Lucario was good in the game while he is not.And Pikachu, Pichu and JIGGLYPUFF sucked in the game too. Why were they in SSB64/Melee? It doesn't matter about being good in the game because Jigglypuff sucks. If you're saying that Lucario shouldn't be in Brawl because he sucks in D/P, then I just gave you a counter-example.
Well i hope your salac berry gets a chance to activate while he's being ohko'd... Unless your using endure and reversal... Then he has to worry about priority moves...Pikchu & Jiggly, along with teir evolutions are somewhat mediocre, but Lucario is good provided that he's played correctly. His speed is not bad, just average, so if speed is an issue, make sure he's Jolly. Also, mine has a Salac Berry, & does well.
I've been using a choice specs Lucario for some time now and it's a great special sweeper. Don't push your opinions as fact if you haven't even tried the Pokemon. Everything is usable, except for things like Magikarp. XDHe sucks in the game... He has a horrible defensive stats and with 90 base speed he's going to get outrun by nearly everything. Contrary to serebii's description of Me First you don't get to go first... You have to be faster than your opponent... Most things that are slower than 90 base speed are defensive pokemon that are going to use moves like spikes or stealth rock and me first doesn't copy those moves. He gets destroyed by anything that isn't bug rock or dark... Pathetic speed and pathetic defensive stats are not pretty effin good in the game...
It's your opinion that Lucario is bad, which he isn't. He's just not overpowered like some pokes are, stat-wise.I said that cause if you read the post that i quoted... The person said that Lucario was good in the game while he is not.
I don't push my opinions as fact... I give valid reasons to support the statements that i make. If your going to say it like that then stop pushing your opinion as fact saying that he is a good special sweeper.I've been using a choice specs Lucario for some time now and it's a great special sweeper. Don't push your opinions as fact if you haven't even tried the Pokemon. Everything is usable, except for things like Magikarp. XD
Worrying about priority moves? Almost no-one uses them.
It's your opinion that Lucario is good, which he isn't. He's just not useful like some pokes are, stat wise.It's your opinion that Lucario is bad, which he isn't. He's just not overpowered like some pokes are, stat-wise.
Hello? Extremespeed?I don't push my opinions as fact... I give valid reasons to support the statements that i make. If your going to say it like that then stop pushing your opinion as fact saying that he is a good special sweeper.
Donphan, Mamoswine, Weavile, Linoone, Deoxys (albeit its uber so lucario doesn't have to worry about it), Metagross, Breloom, Ambipom and others all can consider using a priority move in their moveset.
It's your opinion that Lucario is good, which he isn't. He's just not useful like some pokes are, stat wise.
Mature of you using my own remark against me.I don't push my opinions as fact... I give valid reasons to support the statements that i make. If your going to say it like that then stop pushing your opinion as fact saying that he is a good special sweeper.
Donphan, Mamoswine, Weavile, Linoone, Deoxys (albeit its uber so lucario doesn't have to worry about it), Metagross, Breloom, Ambipom and others all can consider using a priority move in their moveset.
I'm talking about endure and reversaling lucarios...Hello? Extremespeed?
You were talking about priority movesI'm talking about endure and reversaling lucarios...
Well your being hypocritical saying that while you are doing the same thing. So that is why i copied your statementMature of you using my own remark against me.
Few people actually use Mamoswine or Linoone at all. Weavile and Metagross don't often have their priority moves outside 3vs3. Only Breloom leads have Mach Punch, and Ambipom has to use Fake Out on the turn it comes in, and he WON'T want to come in on a Reversal Lucario. You also forgot lol other Lucarios.
.____.;; I'm saying why would a reversal lucario have extreme speed on their moveset? Sooo yeah...You were talking about priority moves
Ice Fang and Ice Shard barely constitute as great stab moves. Mamoswine also has a LOT of bad weaknesses. Why is your opponent letting you set up Belly Drum Linoone? And WHY are you letting Lucario get an easy KO?Mamoswine has excellent Stab moves and great attack. Linoone has gluttony so that when he bellydrums he gets his salac boost right away. Ambipom can come in after lucario has ko'd a pokemon and fake out lucario.
Yeah i did.. >__>; I forgot a bunch of others too like Dusknoir and Spiritomb who can come in on a reversal...
Lucario gets 2hko'd by most things that can hit him for neutral damage... So i don't know how yours lives long enough to get to a salac boostMy Lucario isn't based on reversal. I let him take just enough damage, then Salac, & sweep away.
It's all about timing.Lucario gets 2hko'd by most things that can hit him for neutral damage... So i don't know how yours lives long enough to get to a salac boost
How did you arrive to that conclusion (you're clearly biased).wow, lucario fights......
i laugh, but with this pokemon trainer out there,he could not get a spot in brawl
well A. any introduced character lowers the chance of all new people to get due to disc spaceHow did you arrive to that conclusion (you're clearly biased).
Sorry for the double post.
wow, lucario fights......
i laugh, but with this pokemon trainer out there,he could not get a spot in brawl
Insulting someone is a poor & juvenile way to further an argument, & only hurts you in the end. Anyway, true, PT has 3 pokes, but there's going to be a ton of character slots, & Pokemon still technically has 2 confirmed reps. Someone presented the theory the PT may b a means of getting in extra pokes without detracting from the character slots.well A. any introduced character lowers the chance of all new people to get due to disc space
B. poke trainer is 3 pokes in one or 3 seperate characters in one, so if you think about we have 4 pokemon
(you're clearly stupid)
First off, I insulted not you, but the manner in which you present your opinion. Second, I don't approve of anyone flaming others in a debate, because like I said before, it's juvenile, & damages the argument. Finally, if they were separate, they would take up more space.anyone who thinks difrent from the majority always gets flamed, geeze what happend to smashboards, before you could voice idea with someone saying YoZZ iZZ STuPIZDD.
poor and juvinile are insults to me,so i guess you fall under the same catogar dude
@ strkys, we have no idea how many charcter there are,+the fact if suirtle,ivyusaur and charzarid were 3 seperat characters,they would still take up as much disk space as they do now.
anyone who thinks difrent from the majority always gets flamed, geeze what happend to smashboards, before you could voice idea with someone saying YoZZ iZZ STuPIZDD.
poor and juvinile are insults to me,so i guess you fall under the same catogar dude
@ strkys, we have no idea how many charcter there are,+the fact if suirtle,ivyusaur and charzarid were 3 seperat characters,they would still take up as much disk space as they do now.