The Last Time I Will Do This

[Apasher]

I don't get how you defend the Apex stagelist, but yet say that it still has bad CPs.

 

[JTsm]

Everybody. Just main Snake.



I honestly don't care for the ban or not. Snake takes a lot of work to put in the time for MU's from both sides, so really it doesn't matter (to me anyways).

As a whole however, I would like to see MK's destroying Olimars and such. At least I know there is one dominating force in the metagame.

 

[Ori_bro]

I don't get how you defend the Apex stagelist, but yet say that it still has bad CPs.

I should have worded it better I guess.

Look at the APEX Stage list.
[COLLAPSE="Stages"]
Neutrals
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CPS
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[/COLLAPSE]

When you compare the stages, Delfino, Frigate, and Halberd are the stages that can be considered janky. Halberd has elements that can interfere with the match but you need to be near ******** to know how to not void them. Frigate's worst element is the flipping and the 1 spot with no ledge. If you have played enough Brawl, you should be able to work past these silly gimmicks. Delfino, in my opinion, is the best counterpick. It is near neutral a majority of the match. Each of the stops are not that bad in terms of playability

These 3 are the only stages that can hinder certain character's performances. Out side of that they still are decent stages.


Don't get me wrong, I like the Japanese stagelist. I like playing on neutrals it makes me not need to worry about stages that can hinder my recovery as or make me worry about ****ing up a cg as


I'm not opposing the Japanese Stagelist, I just prefer the Apex stagelist over the Japanese one.

 

[Rabbi Nevins]

Shoutouts to ori calling delfino semi jank

 

[Apasher]

Halberd and PS1 are the only CP stages that I can tolerate.

The rest are just bad and should not be legal.

 

[Infern Angelis]

If you had to mark a Top 5 as far as our best players in the Midwest TODAY I would say its:

Shugo /
Kain
Judo
MJG /
Krystedez /

God Kais, that is all.

 

[DtJ S2n]

I could've sworn that the intent of this thread had nothing to do with MK. I could've sworn MK's ban/legality was irrelevant to our growth as players.

MAN, for some reason I thought this thread was supposed to be encouragement for us to host more local tourneys and look to grow our local communities, finding more talented players like Ralph Cecil and Zinoto, so that we as a region could grow.

God I'm dumb for thinking that. Ban MK.


edit: wait a second I just walked away feeling good about myself and now I realize, this thread WAS about MK? Why would you do that? What a waste. It really should've been that stuff I said.

 

[Roller]

roller i will MM you for any amount

$50, Bo7? =o

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Well after I clarified that my central point wasn't about MK, it just kinda exploded in another MK debate anyway because anytime MK is mentioned it just happens. It is what it is. I accomplished what I wanted though. I just needed some answers.

 

[Deleted member]

I could've sworn that the intent of this thread had nothing to do with MK. I could've sworn MK's ban/legality was irrelevant to our growth as players.

MAN, for some reason I thought this thread was supposed to be encouragement for us to host more local tourneys and look to grow our local communities, finding more talented players like Ralph Cecil and Zinoto, so that we as a region could grow.

God I'm dumb for thinking that. Ban MK.


edit: wait a second I just walked away feeling good about myself and now I realize, this thread WAS about MK? Why would you do that? What a waste. It really should've been that stuff I said.

It's hard to grow when the people in charge are holding you back.

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

$50, Bo7? =o

yes

 

[sneakytako]

The amount of salt in this thread is unacceptable. MK legal discussion need at least 3 times more salt.

 

[LOE1]

meh, idk about mk legal or not. i can do either way

stagewise, only ps2, brin, and rc should be banned. all others are fine
frigate flips. solution? jump. no ledge on a side? dont get caught there. plus when the stage flips the ledge is there again...
halberd has a laser beam, easy to avoid, a claw, shield it, and a bomb, dont get caught near it.
delphino is completly neutral at its normal phase, like FD on some phases, and campy parts on other stages of it.

people can just put in more time to learn the mk mu if thats the problem. no stage johns.

also, japanese ruleset is godly for some chars and a ***** to other chars. thats why i dont completly support it....as a main

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Tako: All MI events are legal.



Ima dip you on my fries son!




There:


Optimal salt levels achieved.

-dip-

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

I agree with Loe1, Bridge of eldin has a walkoff, but just don't get caught there, makes the stage pretty fair, and it has a bomb in the middle that's easy to avoid.

Luigi's mansion can be destroyed and then it's like FD, make that legal too

Jungle Japes has a hazard on a timer, easy to avoid if you're smart. Def should be legal as well

Port Town aero drive car's? solution jump. Yet another fair stage.

When will the community see the light?

 

[Sarix]

What about the ease of camping on bridge of eldin after the bomb?

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Same thing happens on Ps1 during earth and fire transformations. I don't see a problem.

 

[Sarix]

Alright just curious.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

I forgot but you can hit the bulbin king to stop him from putting down a bomb as well.

BoE for stater stage.

 

[Sarix]

I wouldn't mind it actually. My main can take advantage of the size, though the lack of ledges is saddening.

 

[JTsm]

Port Town aero drive car's? solution jump. Yet another fair stage.

When will the community see the light?

As long as MK is banned, I guess. lol

 

[Eddie G]

PTAD? Mansion? Bridge of Eldin? Really? This community can never decide on ****...lol.

*leaves thread*

 

[Apasher]

Pictochat should be a starter.

 

[ThrowTheAnhyzer]

i love playing against MK its easy with G&W

 

[Damittom]

i love playing against MK its easy with G&W

Yeah, real talk unless your a scrub MK is even for

so that means MKs real matchups are

0: , , ,

oh but if your M2k

-5

but if your any other semi-competent MK main its a +2

**** that bs matchup chart

 

[Revolution6 aka alterego]

you forgot ROB sir

 

[LOE1]

and

 

[Revolution6 aka alterego]

and

wario is not part of the OCEAN sir

 

[Damittom]

Does wario beat mk I can see him winning in the air but wario's ground options are kinda bad

 

[LOE1]

i really wanna say that mu is even. wario can kill mk at early percents and he isnt the easiest person to kill or gimp.

 

[Mr~C]

Very Nice Speech Tech. Even though im not apart of the smash community a lot I support your thoughts and bringing Midwest Back

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

i really wanna say that mu is even. wario can kill mk at early percents and he isnt the easiest person to kill or gimp.

lmao we'll see if you still say this after we play again

 

[Mr~C]

Everybody. Just main Snake.



I honestly don't care for the ban or not. Snake takes a lot of work to put in the time for MU's from both sides, so really it doesn't matter (to me anyways).

As a whole however, I would like to see MK's destroying Olimars and such. At least I know there is one dominating force in the metagame.

Do you still make signatures? Cause I was thinking about having a tekken sig!

 

[Rabbi Nevins]

i really wanna say that mu is even. wario can kill mk at early percents and he isnt the easiest person to kill or gimp.

how can this be true? If it were youd see FAR more great wario players.

 

[Mr~C]

how can this be true? If it were youd see FAR more great wario players.

^ Amen right here..

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Wario beats nobody.

 

[Zinoto]

Lol I remember talking to Relflex about this MU and he thought it was -2 for and i kinda agree.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Reflex is a smart man if he realizes wario is -2 vs the entire cast, I didn't give him enough credit.

 

[Roller]

-3 vs ICs, imo.

Wario's like sheik; but with less range, no projectiles, no tilt lock, and gets grab released into kill moves by like half the viable (and many not so viable) characters.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Then how is he like sheik?