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What is Nana and Popo’s relationship?

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FunAtParties

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So I don't see people talking about it, but their down smash is changed. Now Nana and Popo swipe once in different directions. Looks pretty weak too
 

DeLux

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I have been wondering the same, but I figured it was because I've only seen it while at work with no sound lol
 

Aurra

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I made a quick guide to three of the main desync options that IC players are using currently. Should help people pick up the SSBU version of ICs much quicker.

 
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Aurra

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Are you able to buffer with nana on the third method?
No, if you buffer anything during the downthrow Nana will delay her attack until Popo does his version of the attack. It has to be timed specifically on the correct frame in order to get the Nana desync mid-throw. If it was bufferable all the downthrow sequences would be very easy.
 

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Don't know if anyone has figured this out yet, but you can desynch simply via shorthopping, directional airdodge to the ground (diagonal downwards works aswell), and buffering an iceblock with popo (don't know if other specials work aswell, might be, but the timing is trickier idk) -> you're desynched.

This works out of a run, backwards, forwards, it doesn't matter. It's fairly safe too, because all you gotta do is sh airdodge. You can basically run -> shorthop -> airdodge down and back -> popo iceblock forward -> nana blizzard -> etc. I can post a video if anyone's interested.

This is really handy.

Edit: I just saw the desynch thread... Whoops.
 
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FunAtParties

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Don't know if anyone has figured this out yet, but you can desynch simply via shorthopping, directional airdodge to the ground (diagonal downwards works aswell), and buffering an iceblock with popo (don't know if other specials work aswell, might be, but the timing is trickier idk) -> you're desynched.

This works out of a run, backwards, forwards, it doesn't matter. It's fairly safe too, because all you gotta do is sh airdodge. You can basically run -> shorthop -> airdodge down and back -> popo iceblock forward -> nana blizzard -> etc. I can post a video if anyone's interested.

This is really handy.

Edit: I just saw the desynch thread... Whoops.
Even if it's bee shared before I appreciate it.
 

Fatmanonice

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I love the Ice Climbers but I find them incredibly frustrating to play as right now. Have any pros picked up the character because I'm in desperate need of some pointers. My main issue is keeping Nana alive againist rush down characters.
 

l!nk_aut

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I love the Ice Climbers but I find them incredibly frustrating to play as right now. Have any pros picked up the character because I'm in desperate need of some pointers. My main issue is keeping Nana alive againist rush down characters.
my guess is, that she'll die no matter what when it comes to rush-down characters. if the player is skilled, they can seperate nana from you and kill her off. it was the same in brawl and melee. but back then such characters needed to be more careful because of the zero-death chaingrabs.
 

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Has anyone noticed anything regarding the IC's desyncs for the current patch? All the notes say is something like "AI improved, 2nd climber follows the main one more reliably" and I was wondering if this affects desyncs.

that aside, their up-b has better ledge-grab range now
 
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Anyone else already preordered their ICies Amiibo? I did mine a while ago, they’re releasing next Friday for anyone who forgot/doesn’t know alongside K. Rool and Plant.
 

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Good going. I’ll need to post my collection sometime soon. Phone camera is crap though so I’ll have to figure something else out.
 
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ROBnWatch

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Thanks guys, very helpful
It’s AI. And it honestly doesn’t seem like it’s been improved all that much. She’s supposed to “better follow Popo when they’re separated” but I haven’t really seen any improvement in that regard. But maybe I’m wrong, I dunno.
 

MrGameguycolor

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I this is Melee and not Ultimate.
Buuuuuut...



I guess it's only a matter of time till this slips into Ultimate. (Assuming Ultimate lasts long enough)
:p
 

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It’s AI. And it honestly doesn’t seem like it’s been improved all that much. She’s supposed to “better follow Popo when they’re separated” but I haven’t really seen any improvement in that regard. But maybe I’m wrong, I dunno.
ugh, back to olimar...
 

MunchMeUp

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Welcome!
In 2014, a small but notable tragedy took place...
While the new entry in the Super Smash Bros series was much anticipated and met with enormous acclaim, one couldn't help but notice something was missing:
The Ice Climbers.
"Even if I cram in as many fighters as I can, there are some people who are focused on the few who didn’t make it back. Among them are the Ice Climbers, who were playable during development on the Wii U. However, moving the two as a pair required significant processing power. The 3DS was already being pushed to its limit, and I couldn’t get them to work no matter how hard I tried, so I gave up on them. The other fighters had to be whittled and pared down until I could get them to work, so it was simply unavoidable.

I couldn’t get them to work no matter how hard I tried: I removed as many joints as I possibly could, and even when I removed certain effects, like gravity, they still wouldn’t work. Olimar and his Pikmin were also extremely difficult, but I managed to at least get them to work.

Also, characters and series that have no plans for future releases, or a low possibility of future releases, inevitably will be considered lower priority. Furthermore, transferring them from Melee would be difficult because the original data is old."
-Masahiro Sakurai (via Soma at Source Gaming)

But alas, with the new Smash for Switch announced, there is a large chance they’ll make a comeback!

1. The data for them already exists in the Wii U version. It would be very easy to re-implement them into the game with a certain percentage already being completed.
2. It doesn't seem like exclusivity would be a problem. The 3DS "had its opportunity" and part of goal Smash for Switch would be to encourage people to purchase one, therefore it would need to have exclusives to die for.
3. They are a beloved veteran and given their seniority, the creativity linked to Sakurai, and their whole gimmick, I can't imagine Sakurai would let them "disappear" and be prevented from the roster. Relevance is not always related to a characters inclusion. Rather, a characters identity may actually be more correlated with Smash then the very game of origination.
And of course, if you support the idea of the Ice Climbers making a return, go ahead and let AnonymousMoon AnonymousMoon know, and you’ll be enrolled.

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“C'mon, Nintendo. Don't be so cold-hearted. It'd be really ice of you to bring back this very cool duo. With the switch, they can be unfrozen in time from Brawl. Mei the Climbers make their return!”
(Created by @KeybladeSmasher)


Now, without further ado...
LET THE DISCUSSIONS BEGIN!
Ice climbers made a return and they got nerfed.
WHY SAKURI WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
 
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