The Genesis 5 Discussion thread

[Minordeth]

Did everyone agree beforehand to just let Mistake keep doing dumb things? Because he went 0-7 last time? Did they decide that letting him do dumb stuff wasn’t enough so they make themselves flub too?

 

[Lord Dio]

WHAT
He just teleported into the blast zone
WHAT
and mistake continues to go on.

 

[Nu~]

Uh...

How am I supposed to rationalize what just happened there

 

[TDK]

So if you SDI too hard you just die?

 

[Illusion.]

Tfw you die for doing exactly what you’re supposed to.

 

[Lord Dio]

HE JUST KEEPS DOING THINGS AND THEY WORK
HE UPTILTED AND IT STAGE SPIKED SALEM

 

[ARISTOS]

This is atrocious lmao

 

[The-Technique]

And Mistake 3-0s Salem...again.

Time to lose against Leo *shrug*.

 

[Lord Dio]

I'm so upset right now. save us leo.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Losers was a Mistake.

 

[blackghost]

Never say Rosa beats Bayo again

And this is why we can't have dicussion. This contributes nothing.

 

[Minordeth]

Welp. Looks like my theory is correct. I wonder if Leo was included in the backdoor agreement?

TK: “Mistake playing on a whole ‘nother level right now.”

*Mistake proceeds to SD twice.*

 

[Wintermelon43]

Bayonetta was a mistake

 

[Minordeth]

Leo. What. Why is he late on stuff he was punishing 20 minutes ago against Salem?

Okay, he looks like he broke out of autopilot.

 

[The_Bookworm]

Genesis 5 Top 8
Winners Semi-Finals:
MKLeo vs Dabuz 3-2
Salem vs MVD 3-1

Winners Finals:
MKLeo vs Salem 3-0

Losers Round 1:
Nairo vs ESAM 3-0 (Bodied!)
falln vs Mistake 0-3

Losers Quarter-Finals:
Nairovs MVD 3-1
Dabuzvs Mistake 2-3

Losers Semi-Finals:
Nairovs Mistake 2-3 (Mistake is insane!)

Losers Finals:
Salemvs Mistake 0-3

Grand Finals:
MKLeo vs Mistake (Set 1) 3-1
MKLeo vs Mistake (Set 2) N/A

 

[Illusion.]

And this is why we can't have dicussion. This contributes nothing.

To be fair, your opening statement wasn’t any better. It was literally just “oh I think Rosalina beats Bayonetta” and you provided zero reasons why, other than personal experience it looked like.

 

[Minordeth]

There is justice. Mistake lost the tournament to the same dumb habits that he kept doing the entire top 8.

 

[Lord Dio]

Mistake took out the 2nd, 3rd, and 6th? (idk, didnt watch that video) best players in the world.
With easily punishable habits.
No words can express how confused and upset this makes me.

 

[blackghost]

To be fair, your opening statement wasn’t any better. It was literally just “oh I think Rosalina beats Bayonetta” and you provided zero reasons why, other than personal experience it looked like.

This isnt the main thread of smash 4. Data isnt required here. I was reacting my experences in comparision to the actual matches on stream which this thread is a reaction to.

 

[TDK]

This isnt the main thread of smash 4. Data isnt required here. I was reacting my experences in comparision to the actual matches on stream which this thread is a reaction to.

I was doing the exact same thing, albiet a bit more angrily. For context, that was right after Mistake dominated Falln.

 

[Wintermelon43]

I went onto smash 4 and picked Marth to celebrate MKLeo stopping the madness of Bayonetta and the randomized computer picked Bayonetta -_-

 

[The_Bookworm]

Mistake took out the 2nd, 3rd, and 6th? (idk, didnt watch that video) best players in the world.
With easily punishable habits.
No words can express how confused and upset this makes me.

Congrats to MKLeo for this victory. You guys have to respect Mistake's run through this, even 3-0'ing fellow Bayonetta player Salem to reach there.

 

[Minordeth]

Mistake took out the 2nd, 3rd, and 6th? (idk, didnt watch that video) best players in the world.
With easily punishable habits.
No words can express how confused and upset this makes me.

Like, Mistake has played like this since he got that big break last year. He relies on heel slide constantly during neutral, he uses Witch Time any time he is falling or under the remotest pressure, and he keeps doing these things even after being punished.

Should be keep “progressing” like this, he is never going to be a consistent player. It’s why he went 0-7 last week and got 2nd this week.

If you let your opponent make the same mistakes over and over again, and you are a top player that has shown they can actually combat those things, then you are on autopilot.

 

[Locke 06]

Like, Mistake has played like this since he got that big break last year. He relies on heel slide constantly during neutral, he uses Witch Time any time he is falling or under the remotest pressure, and he keeps doing these things even after being punished.

Should be keep “progressing” like this, he is never going to be a consistent player. It’s why he went 0-7 last week and got 2nd this week.

If you let your opponent make the same mistakes over and over again, and you are a top player that has shown they can actually combat those things, then you are on autopilot.

You are incredibly short sighted if you actually believe this. If you think his "bad habits" are why he went 0-7 at the invitational, then you don't understand tournaments or Bayonetta at all.

 

[Ziodyne 21]

Whew...what a way to offically start Smash 4 competitive scene for 2018.

A competion with some of the most WTF moments and sets I have seen in the history of the game courtesy of one player who goes by the name "Mistake".


Is Genesis just going to be a yearly competion cursed with having matches mired in controversy and salt?
.

 

[Minordeth]

You are incredibly short sighted if you actually believe this. If you think his "bad habits" are why he went 0-7 at the invitational, then you don't understand tournaments or Bayonetta at all.

Nah. I’m being glib.

Obviously, there’s more to it than that. Regardless, the play in the top 8 today generally, but with Mistake specifically, was not good. It was exciting, but it wasn’t good - outside of MKLeo.

 

[Sinister Slush]

So if you SDI too hard you just die?

If you dare SDI to try and escape you die, if you don't SDI at all you only have to eat 30-90% based on the skill level of the bayo to continue combos.

Seems fine to me to be honest, you get to abuse RAGE now. That was MKleo's plan I'm sure.

 

[Das Koopa]

As dumb as Nairo teleporting to death was I'm pretty sure that was a Smash 4 jank fluke that happens with multihits. Mistake had clearly not seen it happen before despite existing as a meta entity off of his absurd punish game.

SDI is really common to escape death combos at this point and this is the first time I've ever see somebody die out of it

 

[|RK|]

As dumb as Nairo teleporting to death was I'm pretty sure that was a Smash 4 jank fluke that happens with multihits. Mistake had clearly not seen it happen before despite existing as a meta entity off of his absurd punish game.

SDI is really common to escape death combos at this point and this is the first time I've ever see somebody die out of it

Late, but I'm sure Mistake has seen it. The only way that shotgun effect happens is with SDI, paradoxically enough. Myollnir says that it doesn't work on CPUs for that reason.