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The Fairy with Fighting Spirit: Lip for Smash! *Play Panel de Pon on NSO!*

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Forgive me for being skeptic, but while I wouldn't at all be surprised if this was the final roster, it'll take more than just a blurry image to convince me. Maybe I'm just hopelessly optimistic.

Honestly, with Geno there (and no Steve in sight), I'd be pretty okay with this roster, Lip or no. And I'm definitely not giving up on her until DLC's over!
 
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It's fine to be skeptical. But I'm kinda becoming more and more receptive to it as the day goes on. Anything can happen tbh.

Keep that in mind if that is the base roster. Anything can happen... Like Lip DLC :3
 

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It's fine to be skeptical. But I'm kinda becoming more and more receptive to it as the day goes on. Anything can happen tbh.

Keep that in mind if that is the base roster. Anything can happen... Like Lip DLC :3
We can only hope.
This might be the last in the series.
 

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We can only hope.
This might be the last in the series.
People thought SSB4 was going to be the last in the series. That was after they thought Brawl was thought to be the last in the series. That was after people thought Melee was the final game. And honestly, nothing about SSB64 screams "massive multi-million-dollar franchise" either.
 

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I think unless Nintendo took a whole handful of stupid pills; It's IMPOSSIBLE this is the last Smash. It's a money printing machine.
 

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I think unless Nintendo took a whole handful of stupid pills; It's IMPOSSIBLE this is the last Smash. It's a money printing machine.
Exactly. Whether or not Masahiro Sakurai is still involved, Smash Bros. will continue one way or another. You don't just stop making a series that rakes in millions of dollars. It's just not good business. (And if Sakurai is really going to keep playing the hypocrite and rule out characters just for lacking recognition internationally, then honestly he doesn't deserve to be at the forefront of it anymore.)
 

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People thought SSB4 was going to be the last in the series. That was after they thought Brawl was thought to be the last in the series. That was after people thought Melee was the final game. And honestly, nothing about SSB64 screams "massive multi-million-dollar franchise" either.
If Lip did make it into smash, btw, I think it would be cool if instead of just having DLC given to you, Sakurai decided to make a PdP game out of it.
You have puzzle battles against newcomers, and when you beat them, they become your ‘allies’, similar to the fairies in the original PdP, then you can transfer the said new characters over to Smash and play as them. What do you think? I think it would be a fun away to bring back that old PdP feeling, while benefiting off of it in Smash Bros by expanding the roster.
I’d call it ‘Panel de Smash’ or something like that.
Considering how it seems PdP means a lot to Sakurai as a developer, implementing it into Smash would be a brilliant idea imo, and I think most would play it, associate it with Lip, and fully revive the franchise.
 
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Sounds fun. I wonder if WA would be game for that.
Yeah.
Imagine seeing an indie character like Shantae in that style. Or Sora from Kingdom Hearts. And maybe the game would even allow you to ‘free’ certain characters from assist trophies like Shovel Knight, Waluigi, and Ashley. Guaranteed 10/10 game.
 

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I don't see them making Assist Trophies playable in the same game, but it's a neat concept.
 

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Lip is one of those characters who you can make the serious argument of "should've been in Smash 64" which there aren't a whole lot of. While I know it's sacrilege nowadays to even suggest one of the original 12, let alone 8, not being in Smash but I do think Lip is up there in terms of characters who have an honest argument to be in that game.
 

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It should have been her and not Ness. Yeah, I went there. Fight me.
 

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Lip is one of those characters who you can make the serious argument of "should've been in Smash 64" which there aren't a whole lot of. While I know it's sacrilege nowadays to even suggest one of the original 12, let alone 8, not being in Smash but I do think Lip is up there in terms of characters who have an honest argument to be in that game.
True. If only NoA didn’t get in the way just because ‘She’s a girly girl flower princess blah blah blah’, she could’ve been. Although even back then, Jigglypuff had the bow alts.
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I also always thought that swirl on its head looked a lot like Lip’s, and the fact a flower grows on the opponent’s head from rest in future installments.
Plus, it’s now Fairy type. Seems our little two pink puffballs :ultjigglypuff::ultkirby: really like her style or something, lol.
It should have been her and not Ness. Yeah, I went there. Fight me.
Uhm, you are REALLY heading into dangerous territory there.
 

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It could have been worse. I could have said she deserved to be in more than Captain Falcon, haha.
 

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It could have been worse. I could have said she deserved to be in more than Captain Falcon, haha.
Could you actually imagine what it would be like if the original PdP was released worldwide years ago, and Lip was actually considered a veteran since Smash 64?
Or imagine if PdP and FE swapped roles in Melee, where Sakurai wanted to add Marth, couldn’t, so he went with Lip instead....and now we have, like, 10 PdP reps?
(Each and every fairy in the original game is playable, along with Thanatos.)
 
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Yet more proof we live in the darkest possible timeline.
 

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Yet more proof we live in the darkest possible timeline.
Actually, don’t give up.
Not yet.
Apparently, some sources connected to papagenos (the guy who predicted Mach Rider a while back early in the days of Ultimate) are saying that there are 1-2 characters are still missing from the banner, and they apparently got the 7 shown right.
Also apparently, 1 of the 2 is a ‘big reveal’.
I dunno if it could be Lip...but she’s still missing completely....and I don’t know about you....but seeing how Nintendo has been treating her....that would be quite big imo.
 
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Again, let's not blindly put our faith in random leaks on the internet. Unless Papagenos has credibility in any way that isn't "leaked/guessed Mach Rider" (and that's assuming this is legit at all).
 

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Well now that I've calmed down, I'll just continue to push for her on social media and hope for DLC.
Edit: I don't really believe in the leak, I never do. Just came as a shock.
 
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https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-revive-nintendo-s-panel-de-pon-series

Yeah, I know online petitions aren't the most reliable method of garnering support, but I'm willing to try anything I can think of to get this series back on the radar. I encourage everyone who reads this thread to sign if they're able to, and share it with their friends.
Done.
I’ll do anything to bring this back.
Nintendo can’t do this to us anymore. Yoshi took Lip’s one shot at fame, and she needs it back desperately now. This reminds me of that Puzzle War animation made years ago.
 

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Yeah, I think it's time enough that Lip finally gets her dues. This continued burial of Lip and the fairy world needs to stop so that more people can be introduced and fall in love with them. Maybe #BringLipBack won't take off right away, but it's a start.
 

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Yeah, I think it's time enough that Lip finally gets her dues. This continued burial of Lip and the fairy world needs to stop so that more people can be introduced and fall in love with them. Maybe #BringLipBack won't take off right away, but it's a start.
I know.
Lip would have been a perfect retro pick for Ultimate imo. She would probably be even more surprising to see than Mach Rider. And including her would instantly break the apparent ‘no Japanese characters only’ rule as well as the ‘Lip’s Stick deconfirms her’ rule. Would actually be funny to see Lip wield dual flower sticks.
 

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Let's not jump to conclusions just yet. There's a lot in its favor, but at the end of day, it's a blurry picture that could easily be faked.

Even if it's all true, the good news is that more and more retro fighters join or are rendered assists, the greater Lip's chances grow. She'll get her chance one day. But I said that during Smash 4's buildup too, so take that with a grain of salt.

We're at 8 signatures so far. Keep spreading this around so we can get more!
 
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At this point; with the retro fighter being a smash staple; it's really only a matter of time that we get Lip
If Takamaru can get a buttload of Western support despite allegedly being a Japan-only character that no one cares about, then we sure as hell can.
 

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And I dunno about you guy's, but I've got a hell of a lot of lifetime to wait for Lip xD. I lived through THREE smash cycles, and I'm ready for whatever is next.
 

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Also keep in mind the banner still may not be finalized; Sakurai could still throw everyone off with something else.
If not...well then....I don’t know what will happen to Lip in Ultimate. I just hope she gets something more than Smash 4, because she’s still not here.
Could it be possible for us to get a NES retro and a SNES retro in the same game?
 
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Also keep in mind the banner still may not be finalized; Sakurai could still throw everyone off with something else.
If not...well then....I don’t know what will happen to Lip in Ultimate. I just hope she gets something more than Smash 4, because she’s still not here.
Could it be possible for us to get a NES retro and a SNES retro in the same game?
Really, that depends on whether Sakurai views the SNES as "retro." I hope he does.
 

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Really, that depends on whether Sakurai views the SNES as "retro." I hope he does.
If I was him, I would.
There’s a plethora of games from the SNES (or super Famicom in Lips’s case) that could use a proper revival.
Lip just happens to have it bad because her game never made it worldwide.
Because....grrr.....NoA.
 

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Finally back from a ban (I got in a nasty argument about Nintendo Switch Online). Now, let's see some stuff I missed...

If Lip did make it into smash, btw, I think it would be cool if instead of just having DLC given to you, Sakurai decided to make a PdP game out of it.
You have puzzle battles against newcomers, and when you beat them, they become your ‘allies’, similar to the fairies in the original PdP, then you can transfer the said new characters over to Smash and play as them. What do you think? I think it would be a fun away to bring back that old PdP feeling, while benefiting off of it in Smash Bros by expanding the roster.
I’d call it ‘Panel de Smash’ or something like that.
Considering how it seems PdP means a lot to Sakurai as a developer, implementing it into Smash would be a brilliant idea imo, and I think most would play it, associate it with Lip, and fully revive the franchise.
That would be awesome. I would love to play some Puzzle League again.
Sounds fun. I wonder if WA would be game for that.
Isn't that exactly what he's doing with his Panel de Pon x Smash Bros. series?
Yeah.
Imagine seeing an indie character like Shantae in that style. Or Sora from Kingdom Hearts. And maybe the game would even allow you to ‘free’ certain characters from assist trophies like Shovel Knight, Waluigi, and Ashley. Guaranteed 10/10 game.
As soon as I saw that "playable Assist Trophies" remark, my thoughts were basically "Bomberman and Krystal, heck yeah!"
It should have been her and not Ness. Yeah, I went there. Fight me.
*points to my mains list... Ness, Ness, Ness, Ness, Ness, Ness...* You're on.
Done.
I’ll do anything to bring this back.
Nintendo can’t do this to us anymore. Yoshi took Lip’s one shot at fame, and she needs it back desperately now. This reminds me of that Puzzle War animation made years ago.
Oooh, that looks pretty.
If I was him, I would.
There’s a plethora of games from the SNES (or super Famicom in Lips’s case) that could use a proper revival.
Lip just happens to have it bad because her game never made it worldwide.
Because....grrr.....NoA.
Seriously, what were they thinking?!?
 

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I really do hope that Mach Rider won’t deconfirm Lip.
Please, Sakurai. :(
She’ll make this game feel truly ‘ultimate’ to me.
A character that no one would ever think making it into smash makes it in. My life would feel complete.
 

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She Will be in 50 Fact in December and her number is 71
Also wanted: as of September 13, 2018
October Direct
Spring Man, Ribbon Girl, Ken, Shadow, Decideye
50 Fact (December Direct)
Octoling
Turns out There's Also Furil as a Palette Swap Character of Lip
 

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Turns out There's Also Furil as a Palette Swap Character of Lip
I'm not taking the "Grinch leak" at face value, and I'm not taking this one at face value either (especially considering there's no video or photo evidence). I'll admit, I'd be happy as a clam if this was true.
 
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