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Blissard

Smash Lord
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Double Hit OHKOs, counter fail.
^Lol, double hit being an one hit knock out.

Pelipper @ Leftovers
252 HP / 100 Def / 36 SpAtk / 120 SpDef
Modest / Keen Eye

Air Slash
Hydro Pump
Toxic
Roost

OHKO with Air Slash.

Edit: Btw, I'm doing Nuzlocke Sapphire...and I was wondering how the "catch first Pokemon you find in an area" rule applys to Keckleons. Do I get to catch all of the Keckleons, or what, since they're not found in the wild?
 

Terywj [태리]

Charismatic Maknae~
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Location
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^Lol, double hit being an one hit knock out.

Pelipper @ Leftovers
252 HP / 100 Def / 36 SpAtk / 120 SpDef
Modest / Keen Eye

Air Slash
Hydro Pump
Toxic
Roost

OHKO with Air Slash.

Edit: Btw, I'm doing Nuzlocke Sapphire...and I was wondering how the "catch first Pokemon you find in an area" rule applys to Keckleons. Do I get to catch all of the Keckleons, or what, since they're not found in the wild?
Empoleon @ Leftovers
Torrent / Modest
252 HP / 252 Sp. Atk. / 4 Spd
~ Hydro Pump
~ Hidden Power [Electric]
~ Blizzard
~ Grass Knot

Just wanted to use Empoleon because I think he's pretty cool.

Edit: Btw, I'm doing Nuzlocke Sapphire...and I was wondering how the "catch first Pokemon you find in an area" rule applys to Keckleons. Do I get to catch all of the Keckleons, or what, since they're not found in the wild?
Kecleons are found in the wild at two or three positions and one in Fortree City. Therefore, you can always catch the one in Fortree, but the other locations are catchable only if you haven't already caught something from that area.
 

kirbyraeg

Smash Hero
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Spinda @ Leftovers
248 HP/252 SpDef/8 Spe
Calm / Own Tempo

Hypnosis
Sunny Day
Nightmare
Wish

I can't believe I'm doing this. Ok, so I outspeed to hypnosis, use Sunny Day, and then stall you out with Wish while Nightmare deals steady damage (lol). Your strongest hit under the sun is Blizzard, but it is a 3hko.
 

kirbyraeg

Smash Hero
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Absol @ Lum Berry
252 HP/252 SpDef/4 Def
Calm / Pressure

Snatch
Magic Coat
Dark Pulse
Thunderbolt

yeahhhhhhh.
 

kirbyraeg

Smash Hero
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Mr. Mime @ Leftovers
252 SpAtk/252 Spe/4 Def
Timid/Soundproof

Calm Mind
Psychic
Signal Beam
Thunder

I can CM to match you and hit you with Signal Beam.
 

Blissard

Smash Lord
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Slaking @ Life Orb
252 Atk / 4 SpDef / 252 Spe
Adamant / Truant

Giga Impact
Focus Punch
Earthquake
Night Slash

Protect = the end of Slaking.
 

kirbyraeg

Smash Hero
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Sableye @ Leftovers
252 HP/80 Def/176 SpDef
Bold / Keen Eye

Will-o-wisp
Recover
Toxic
Taunt

Burn stall, as I can switch in on Earthquake, burn you, and survive the subsequent hit after leftovers recovery.
 

Blissard

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Rampardos @ Lum Berry
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant / Mold breaker

Swords Dance
Rock Polish
Head Smash
Focus Punch

When attack fails, more attack is needed.
 

asianaussie

Smash Hero
Joined
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Location
Sayonara Memories
Hitmontop @ Leftovers
96 HP/252 Atk/160 Spe
Bold/Intimidate
~ Close Combat
~ Sucker Punch
~ Mach Punch
~ Foresight

Takes any -1 hit and CCs. It also outspeeds. If you Rock Polish I take the hit and kill anyway.
 

kirbyraeg

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Arcanine @ Leftovers
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 Def
Adamant / Intimidate

Flare Blitz
Toxic
Morning Sun
Extremespeed

Flare Blitz+Extremespeed ko's. If you CC on the switch Flare Blitz beats you outright, but Mach Punch->CC or CC->Sucker Punch still doesn't do enough to KO.
 

Blissard

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Arcanine gets intimidated as well, so it can only 2HKO even if Hitmontop uses CC, but it outstalls with Morning Sun, so the doggy still works :D

Magcargo @ Expert Belt
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpAtk
Quiet / Magma Armor

Fire Blast
Gyro Ball
HP Rock
Recover

Flare Blitz is 7HKO (lol). HP Rock is 2HKO. Yay for Magcargo...
 

kirbyraeg

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But...I have morning sun. AND toxic.

You have nothing to beat that, as I can continually recover vs. it since when you are countering something you use minimums in damage calcs. Even with you doing 64% (the maximum with modest+expert belt) I could stall for 5 turns by recovering against you, which would let me finish you with Extremespeed.

and just as a reference, Intimidate isn't factored in when you're countering something with intimidate since it only activates on the switch-in.
 

kirbyraeg

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oh waaaaaaaaaaait. it's rock-type. LOL.

I can't believe I forgot something as silly as that, let's just move on :3

Seaking @ Life Orb
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 SpDef
Adamant/Water Veil

Aqua Tail
Return
Megahorn
Hydro Pump

Either water move cleanly 1hkos you :3
 

mood4food77

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but it's more fun without OU

Walrein @ Leftovers
Thick Fat / Bold
220 HP / 252 Def / 36 SpD
Sleep Talk
Blizzard
Toxic
Protect

Fairly certain this works as Blizzard is a OHKO while a +1 Outrage is a 2HKO
 

kirbyraeg

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Milotic @ Lum Berry
252 SpAtk/252 Spe/4 Def
Modest / MAHVEL

Blizzard
Hydro Pump
HP Grass
Recover

I take a sleep with lum, then outspeed and blizzard. +1 outrage ain't killing me any time soon.
 

mood4food77

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wait...why?

cause the rules say that sleep talk uses the most beneficial move, which in this case would be blizzard
 

kirbyraeg

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Rapidash @ Life Orb
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP
Jolly / Flash Fire

Flare Blitz
Hypnosis
Megahorn
Return

Switches in and wins.
 

mood4food77

Smash Hero
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Magcargo @ Leftovers
Flame Body / Bold
252 HP / 6 Def / 252 SpD
Sleep Talk
HP Rock
Rock Polish
Earthquake
 

asianaussie

Smash Hero
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Rapidash @ Lum Berry
40 HP/252 Atk/216 Spe
Flash Fire/Jolly
~ Flare Blitz
~ Megahorn
~ Hypnosis
~ Will-o-Wisp

no life orb recoil vs substitutes...ill enjoy that while i can.

if you sub i megahorn you, if you sleep me i wake up and sleep you back. You can't 2HKO even with life orb recoil, and leech seed absorption is futile when i can megahorn you for 64% and sleep you regardless.
 

kirbyraeg

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I can't believe I'm about to do this, since this is legendary.

Charizard @ Lum Berry
252 SpAtk/252 Atk/4 Spe
Rash / Blaze

Blast Burn
Fire Blast
Overheat
Flare Blitz
 

mood4food77

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Magcargo @ Leftovers
Flame Body / Bold
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
HP Rock
Acid Armor
Sleep Talk
Earth Power
 

Terywj [태리]

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I considered Blastoise, but the thought of using Flareon was too tempting.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Water Absorb / Calm
252 HP / 252 Sp. Atk. / 4 Sp. Def.
~ Toxic
~ Wish
~ Protect
~ Hydro Pump
 
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