The Counter Game III: READ THE RULES BEFORE POSTING. Join the fun!

[Kofu]

Exploud @ Life Orb
Adamant | Soundproof
144 HP | 252 Attack | 112 Speed
-Earthquake
-Return
-Crunch
-Overheat

 

[Wave⁂]

Glaceon @ Life Orb
Modest / 100 HP / 252 SpAtk / 156 Speed
Blizzard
HP Fighting
Shadow Ball
Hyper Beam

Overheat does 89.9% max.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Snorlax @ Leftovers
176 Atk/252 SpDef/80 HP
Careful / Thick Fat

Curse
Return
Rest
Crunch

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Steelix @ Leftovers
Rock Head / Relaxed
0 Spd IV
252 HP / 200 Atk / 56 Def
~ Toxic
~ Stone Edge
~ Earthquake
~ Gyro Ball

Edit - Nevermind.

 

[asianaussie]

Koffing @ Black Sludge
252 HP/4 Def/252 SpA
Levitate/Modest
~ Fire Blast
~ Shadow Ball
~ Will-o-Wisp
~ Pain Split

COUGHING isn't 3HKOed by SE with lefties, COUGHING

 

[Blissard]

Butterfree @ Leftovers
4 Def / 252 SpAtk / 252 SpDef
Modest / Compoundeyes

Sleep Powder
Substitute
Dream Eater
Nightmare

Can't OHKO Butterfree with Fire Blast, and retaliate with an OHKO Dream Eater.

 

[UltiMario]

Shuppet@leftovers
252HP/252SpA/4Spe
Insomnia/Modest
Shadow Ball
Will-O-Wisp
Trick Room
HP Fighting

 

[Blissard]

Swellow @ Flame Orb
4 HP / 200 Atk / 52 SpDef / 252 Spe
Guts / Jolly

Facade
Brave Bird
Roost
Supersonic

 

[UltiMario]

You die of Brave Bird recoil in order to attack me, and you are 2HKO'd by HP Fighting, so either way you have no time to Roost/Supersonic and you die.

Counter fail

 

[Wave⁂]

Misdrevous @ Focus Sash
Modest / Levitate
252 SpAtk / 252 Speed / 4 HP
Thunder
Shadow Ball
HP Fighting
Psychic

 

[kirbyraeg]

Girafarig @ Leftovers
252 SpAtk/160 Spe/96 SpDef
Timid / Early Bird

Wish
Protect
Psychic
Signal Beam

I can Wish/Protect stall you out of Thunder PP, then beat you with Psychic. I avoid the 2hko by Protecting for leftovers recovery for one turn after I switch in.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Regice @ Lum Berry
Clear Body / Calm
252 HP / 252 Sp. Atk. / 4 Sp. Def.
~ Toxic
~ Blizzard
~ Thunder
~ Rest

 

[kirbyraeg]

lol this doesn't work.

 

[Kofu]

Magnezone @ Leftovers
Careful | Magnet Pull
252 HP | 4 Attack | 252 Special Defense
-Swagger
-Psych Up
-Iron Head
-Light Screen

 

[kirbyraeg]

Lanturn @ Leftovers
252 SpAtk/52 HP/204 Spe
Modest / Volt Absorb

Charge Beam
Substitute
Blizzard
Hydro Pump

Iron Head is almost out-recovered by Leftovers. Enough said.

 

[Wave⁂]

Claydol @ Life Orb
Levitate / Careful
252 HP / 176 Atk / 82 SpDef
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Zen Headbutt
Giga Impact

Did we ever nail down how often Charge Beam charges?

 

[UltiMario]

Lets use the same thing as confusion if not.

Once every other turn starting on the second turn.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Lets use the same thing as confusion if not.

Once every other turn starting on the second turn.

Except if it's being used by the Pokemon being countered. Then it's once every other turn starting on the first turn.

I remember something qutie similar in the rules.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Rule 7.5: Apply Flinch rules (effects over 50% are assumed every other turn, functioning after the first use and anything below 50% is ignored) to everything else that isn't stated in rule 7.

also that claydol gets outsped and 2hko'ed.

 

[Wave⁂]

D'awww, forgot speed EVs.

Claydol @ Expert Belt
Levitate / Careful
72 HP / 248 Atk / 188 Speed
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Zen Headbutt
Giga Impact

 

[Kofu]

Shedinja @ Focus Sash
Wonder Guard | Adamant
252 Attack | 252 Speed | 4 HP
-Swords Dance
-Shadow Sneak
-X-Scissor
-Dig

You know, for the longest time I thought of the "shed" in its name as a shed that holds things.

It never made sense.

Sableye @ Leftovers
252 HP | 4 Attack | 252 Defense
Keen Eye | Impish
-Recover
-Will-o-Wisp
-Shadow Claw
-Role Play

 

[kirbyraeg]

Slaking @ Life Orb
252 Atk/252 HP/4 Def
Adamant / Truant

Return
Focus Punch
Shadow Claw
Rest

Enjoy being stalled out.

 

[asianaussie]

Spiritomb @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 Def/4 SpA
Modest/Pressure
~ Nasty Plot
~ Will-o-Wisp
~ Dark Pulse
~ HP Fighting

 

[kirbyraeg]

Blaziken @ Life Orb
252 SpAtk/252 Spe/4 Atk
Modest / Blaze

Fire Blast
HP Ice
Focus Blast
Vacuum Wave

 

[asianaussie]

Grumpig @ Leftovers
252 HP/92 SpA/164 Spe
Thick Fat/Calm
~ Calm Mind
~ Psychic
~ HP Fighting
~ Substitute

Outspeeds, 2HKO with Psychic, or CM Psychic.

pigs shouldn't be faster than kung-fu chickens

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Sableye @ Leftovers
Keen Eye / Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
~ Taunt
~ Sucker Punch
~ Shadow Claw
~ Will-o-Wisp

 

[kirbyraeg]

Heracross @ Toxic Orb
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 Def
Jolly / Guts

Swords Dance
Facade
Close Combat
Megahorn

=D

 

[Blissard]

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpDef
Pressure / Bold

Torment
Substitute
Protect
Ice Punch

+2 Megahorn can't KO. Torment, then stall till it dies of Toxic Orb.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Fails because of this:

Turn 1: I Swords Dance as you switch in, Toxic Orb is activated already so I take 1/16.
Turn 2: I Megahorn as you Torment, lose 1/8 to toxic
Turn 3: I Use Close Combat as you Protect, lose 3/16 to toxic
Turn 4: I Megahorn for the KO, as +2 AND Guts boost lets me ko you in two hits even after two turns of leftovers recovery.

edit: here's the calc.
1047 Atk (SD+Guts) vs 405 Def & 294 HP (120 Base Power, NVE, STAB): 166 - 196 (56.46% - 66.67%)

 

[Blissard]

Why would I use protect right after you used Megahorn?

 

[UltiMario]

Why would he Protect on Turn 3?

Instead, he would Ice Punch.

Edit: Ninja

 

[Wave⁂]

+4 Megahorn OHKOs, counter fails.

 

[kirbyraeg]

The idea is the same though, you wouldn't be able to prevent megahorn hitting you over the course of those turns as you would be forced to use Protect at a time where I could use any other move in its place, rendering you unable to protect against the 2hko.

Regardless of what moves you use, the instant you Protect I can use any other move and then strike with megahorn on the next turn. XD

And yes, +4(with Guts) Megahorn 1hkos.

 

[Blissard]

^ *fixed* ^

I think...

Edit: I should've just countered with something that had aerial ace in the first place @_@

 

[asianaussie]

Shedinja

Drifblim @ Petaya Berry
252 Def/252 SpA/4 Spe
Modest/Unburden
~ Air Cutter
~ Substitute
~ Shadow Ball
~ Hidden Power Fighting

Heracross's +3 Megahorn is 40%, Air Cutter is a OHKO.
Why would you make Dusknoir Bold and not Impish? I did calcs with Impish in mind, and SE Ice Punch is 36%. Shadow Ball is an easy 2HKO.

 

[Blissard]

Why would you make Dusknoir Bold and not Impish?

Oh, lol, I didn't notice that.

I was going to give it ice beam, then I realized that it had a much higher attack stat than Dusclops had. And I forgot to switch it XD

 

[Wave⁂]

Counter fail, you are outsped and Shadow Ball and Megahorn are both 3HKOs.

 

[asianaussie]

Why would I use Shadow Ball when Air Slash...what the hell he doesn't learn Air Slash...whatever, Air Cutter OHKOs.

After one +2 Guts Megahorn I can sub twice and subsequently outspeed (by one speed lol, 296 to 295) with Unburden and have +1 Shadow Ball, so even without the flying STAB I counter.

 

[kirbyraeg]

i do manage to **** up the counter game >_>

i swear

but that looks good to me


edit: Rhyperior @ Leftovers
52 HP/204 Atk/252 SpDef
Adamant / Solid Rock

Earthquake
Rock Blast
Megahorn
Sandstorm

Shadow Ball with Leftovers is a 3hko, and I 2hko with Rock Blast only hitting twice each time. HP Fighting is weaker than stab Shadow Ball because of Solid Rock.

 

[asianaussie]

screw fancy counter gimmicks, the most specialised Regirock is beaten with one ****ed scenario

Gorebyss @ Expert Belt
252 HP/4 Def/252 SpA
Modest/Swift Swim
~ Hydro Pump
~ Ice Beam
~ HP Grass
~ Rain Dance