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[kirbyraeg]

That still doesn't work. +2 LO Zen Headbutt does 76% minimum, so burn isn't enough to protect you.

 

[Pokemon Trainer1]

What exactly are you doing?



Any Rotom formes should be noted by their name. I'm using standard Rotom.



Doesn't matter. When a counter fails, you get +5. The subsequent counters were not for countering your Pokemon, so you'd only get +10 total.

Unfortunately, we're not using 5th Generation Pokemon (or moves/items/abilities/etc.) yet. Additionally, Zekrom is what we call an "Uber", and as such it can't be used in this game.

I'm sorry, I forgot about that.

1: Zekrom is gen V.
2: Even if gen V were allowed, Zekrom is Uber.
3: Reshiram is better <3

No he's not.

1. Zekrom is Generation V.
2. Zekrom would be banned anyway since it'll be Uber in Gen. V.
3. You gave Zekrom Sing-A-Round.
4. Reshiram is better.
5. Zekrom doesn't have Intimidate.

Well, that's good to know, but Reshiram isn't better.

Reshiram was specifically stated to invoke more of a girly design.
Zekrom was meant to look manly.

What does this say about you?

Yeah, you can tell by the wings and the eyes.

It says we prefer girly looking stuff to manly looking stuff, that's pretty self-explanatory..

Well, how are we supposed to know you people are girls unless we were stalking you? Tery's Avatar sort of made it clear, but you didn't at all.

 

[Kofu]

1: Zekrom is gen V.
2: Even if gen V were allowed, Zekrom is Uber.
3: Reshiram is better <3

Gallade @ Life Orb
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Adamant / Steadfast

Close Combat
Swords Dance
Stone Edge
Zen Headbutt

With the Dusclops:
Important Stats:
Gallade
HP: 278
Attack: 383

Dusclops
HP: 284
Defense: 394

Turn 1: Swords Dance, Will-O-Wisp
Gallade: 244; Dusclops: 284

Turn 2: Zen Headbutt, Night Shade
Gallade: 83; Dusclops: 154

Barring a Flinch or a Critical Hit, Dusclops DOES beat that Gallade.

Good show, though, I never realized just how potent an attacker Gallade can be. Now I get why it was banned to BL.

Anyway:

Ursaring @ Leftovers
Guts | Adamant
252 HP | 252 Attack | 4 Speed
-Swords Dance
-Crunch
-Return
-Earthquake

Also Tery is a guy ololol

 

[kirbyraeg]

The counter has to be able to switch in and still be a guaranteed counter, meaning that the first turn is me using SD as Dusclops switches in, which is why it doesn't work.

 

[Kofu]

I thought it was just one-on-one... lol

But if that's the case...

Claydol @ Sitrus Berry
Levitate | Impish
252 HP | 4 Attack | 252 Defense
-Reflect
-Earthquake
-Rest
-Cosmic Power

It takes 222 damage (68.5%) from a +2 LO CC. It uses Reflect on the same turn. Sitrus Berry brings its HP back up to 183. Next turn, you do a maximum of 111, bringing Claydol down to 72. Cosmic Power makes the damage on the next turn reduced to... hmm.
TBH I almost don't think it's counterable if you use that definition.

EDIT: Never mind, I found one.

Gliscor @ Leftovers
Impish | Hyper Cutter
252 HP | 120 Defense | 136 Speed
-Aerial Ace
-Earthquake
-Roost
-Taunt

 

[kirbyraeg]

Claydol actually worked the way you had it originally, you know. xD

Gliscor works too though P:

Unown @ Leftovers
252 Def/252 SpAtk/4 HP
Modest / Levitate

Hidden Power Ice

Aerial Ace is a 3hko, and I 2hko with Hidden Power. Roosting to waste my attacks is futile as Hidden Power has more PP.

 

[Kofu]

What, Leftovers with Earthquake/Reflect/Rest/Sleep Talk? Maybe, I guess.

Also the only reason that works is because Gliscor goes first, I could stall you out with Roost due to Life Orb.

But whatever. Last one for tonight:

Spheal @ Leftovers
Thick Fat | Careful
252 HP | 4 Attack | 252 Special Defense
-Curse
-Ice Ball
-Waterfall
-Body Slam.

I Leftovers off the HP Ice Damage. GG.

 

[asianaussie]

Clamperl @ DeepSeaTooth
Shell Armour/Modest
252 HP/252 SpA/4 Spe
~ HP Electric
~ Ice Beam
~ Surf
~ Shell Break Barrier

 

[mood4food77]

i'll change it hold on

all better

 

[Pokemon Trainer1]

Electivire @ Zap Plate
Static/Modest
252 Attack/252 Speed/ 4 Special Attack
~ Thunder
~ Thunderpunch
~ Thunderbolt
~ Hyper Beam

 

[Wrath`]

I don't get it, your 252 Attack investment only helps Thunderpunch.

Dugtrio@Life Orb
Jolly/Arena Trap
4HP/252Attk/252Spd

`Earthquake
`Stone Edge
`Sucker Punch
`Night Slash

Takes Hyper Beam like a champ round 66% damage, retaliates with a nice
145% - 171.8% Earthquake

 

[Blissard]

Skarmory @ Leftovers
252 HP / 96 Def / 160 SpDef
Careful / Sturdy

Toxic
Roost
Brave Bird
Steel Wing

Did I just see 3 Thunder attacks with...nvm.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Electrode @ Focus Sash
252 SpAtk/252 Spe/4 Def
Timid / Soundproof

Thunder
Swagger
Protect
HP Ice

Remember 50% chance of confusion when calcing a counter vs. this (40 BP non-stab hit at +2 vs. yourself).

Confusion is assumed to hit every other turn after the first use.

Thunder beats skarm anyway though.

Protecting to abuse confusion turns seems amazing.

 

[Kofu]

Magnemite @ Leftovers
Bold | Magnet Pull
252 HP | 216 Defense | 40 Special Attack
-Metal Sound
-Thunderbolt
-Flash Cannon
-Reflect

Ninja'd; I like mine better though.

Grumpig @ Leftovers
Calm | Own Tempo
252 HP | 4 Defense | 252 Special Defense
-Mirror Coat
-Taunt
-Protect
-Toxic

I don't have to worry about Confusion.

 

[kirbyraeg]

That still doesn't work though because of my focus sash, with you being 3hko'ed by Thunder and unable to ko with mirror coat.

yeah, just change it to grumpig lol

 

[Wave⁂]

Skorupi @ Focus Sash
Adamant / 252 Atk / 252 Speed / 4 HP
Swords Dance
Aqua Tail
Poison Jab
X-Scissor

 

[Kofu]

>_>
Fine; for some reason I thought Protect with Leftovers would give me enough health. Apparently not.

 

[Blissard]

Mothim @ Petaya Berry
252 SpAtk / 4 Def / 252 Spe (30 HP IV)
Swarm / Modest

Substitute
Hyper Beam
Air Slash
HP Fighting

Uh how long does confusion last? Cause otherwise, Pokemon could Air Slash/Confuse Ray for eternity, or Confuse Ray/Protect...

 

[kirbyraeg]

2 turns, since it lasts 1-4 in-game. Same as sleep.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Rotom @ Leftovers
Levitate / Modest
252 HP / 252 Sp Atk / 4 Spd
~ Thunder
~ Shadow Ball
~ Will-o-Wisp
~ Pain Split

 

[Blissard]

^^^Our 3 consecutive avatars look good together. Tho I like Tery's the best...

Ninetales @ Leftovers
252 SpAtk / 4 SpDef / 252 Spe
Flash Fire / Timid

Nasty Plot
Hypnosis
Fire Blast
Solarbeam Energy Ball

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I think I like my avatar the most, too. :D

Houndoom @ Leftovers
Flash Fire / Modest
252 HP / 252 Sp. Atk. / 4 Spd
~ Dark Pulse
~ Nasty Plot
~ Fire Blast
~ Sludge Bomb

 

[kirbyraeg]

You sure like houndoom a lot...

Azumarill @ Life Orb
252 HP/252 Atk/4 Spe
Adamant / Pure Power

Double Edge
Waterfall
Focus Punch
Ice Punch

Waterfall ko's, you can't 2hko in return.

 

[Blissard]

Lol, Houndoom didn't work in the first place.

Houndoom switch-in.
Ninetales uses Nasty Plot

Ninetales uses Hypnosis.
Houndoom is sleeping.

Ninetales uses Energy Ball (25.4%)
Houndoom is sleeping.

Ninetales uses Energy Ball (25.4%)
Houndoom uses Dark Pulse (strongest working attack; 44.3% min.)

Ninetales uses Energy Ball (25.4%)
Houndoom uses Dark Pulse (44.3%)

Ninetales uses Energy Ball (25.4%)
Houndoom returns to his Pokeball where Houndeliciouses are waiting

Not to ruin the fun or anything...

 

[UltiMario]

You forgot to factor in leftovers.

Houndoom's Leftovers make it so he is only 5HKO'd, and you are 3HKO'd.

Houndoom wins.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

You sure like houndoom a lot...

Houndoom is pretty cool.

You forgot to factor in leftovers.

Houndoom's Leftovers make it so he is only 5HKO'd, and you are 3HKO'd.

Houndoom wins.

Yeah I figured that with Leftovers, they would let Houndoom survive.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Well actually, there's nothing stopping Ninetales from keeping Houndoom locked into sleep forever. I kinda neglected that.

Turn 1: Ninetales uses Nasty Plot as houndoom comes in
Turn 2: Ninetales uses Hypnosis
Turn 3: Ninetales uses Nasty Plot
Turn 4: Ninetales uses Nasty Plot as Houndoom wakes up and does whatever
Turn 5: Ninetales uses hypnosis, etc.

lolthatdoesn'twork

Flareon @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 SpDef/4 Def
Careful / Flash Fire

Toxic
Wish
Will-o-wisp
Superpower

This one works, most definitely. Best you can managae is a +6 Energy Ball which 5hkos (lol). This also deals with Houndoom as Superpower 1hkos and +2 dark pulse doesn't do enough to KO.

 

[Moozle]

Flareon @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 SpDef/4 Def
Careful / Flash Fire

Toxic
Wish
Will-o-wisp
Superpower

This one works, most definitely. Best you can managae is a +6 Energy Ball which 5hkos (lol). This also deals with Houndoom as Superpower 1hkos and +2 dark pulse doesn't do enough to KO.

Dugtrio@Life Orb
Arena Trap/Adamant
4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
~Earthquake
~Stone Edge
~Sucker Punch
~Aerial Ace

 

[kirbyraeg]

That totally gets ko'ed as it comes in by superpower, lol

Even with more defense, you get wisp'ed and THEN ko'ed by superpower

 

[Blissard]

Dugtrio@Life Orb
Jolly/Arena Trap
4HP/252Attk/252Spd

`Earthquake
`Stone Edge
`Sucker Punch
`Night Slash

Dugtrio@Life Orb
Arena Trap/Adamant
4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
~Earthquake
~Stone Edge
~Sucker Punch
~Aerial Ace

Maybe I should post my Skarmory counter again...

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Maybe I should post my Skarmory counter again...

That totally gets ko'ed as it comes in by superpower, lol

Even with more defense, you get wisp'ed and THEN ko'ed by superpower

Except Dugtrio can't counter Flareon. You're free to post a Skarmory counter to a Flygon though, hah.

 

[asianaussie]

we're on flareon, right?

Sableye @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 SpA/4 Spe
Modest/Keen Eye
~ Nasty Plot
~ Dark Pulse
~ Taunt
~ Rest

+4 Nasty Plot is a clean 2HKO, lol it's Sableye

 

[Blissard]

Lol I only sporadically check if other peeps' counters work or not XD

@ Silk Scarf
252 HP / 220 Atk / 36 SpDef
Careful / Scrappy

Body Slam
Growl
Attract
Captivate

A seductive Miltank beats all...
Edit: The little Miltank pic makes it sexier.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Chansey @ Leftovers
252 Def/252 SpDef/4 Spe
Bold / Serene Grace

Seismic Toss
Charm
Toxic
Softboiled

Should be pretty obvious why this works. Hooray Gastly bait.

 

[Blissard]

Gastly @ Black Glasses
4 HP / 252 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly / Levitate

Taunt
Contuse Ray
Hypnosis
Curse

Lol...and Black Glasses is so that Gastly looks cool (h)

 

[kirbyraeg]

Delibird @ Life Orb
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 Def
Adamant / Hustle

Substitute
Ice Punch
Focus Punch
Fly

Enjoy Hustle Ice Punch. =D

 

[asianaussie]

Why does Delibird lack Rapid Spin? It's a standard on all Delibird.

Muk @ Black Sludge
252 HP/4 SpA/252 Def
Bold/Stench
~ Thunder
~ Fire Blast
~ Sludge Bomb
~ HP Rock

erm...focus punch doesn't do much, ice punch is a 3HKO with lefties, fly is hit with thunder for instakill

 

[kirbyraeg]

Chimecho @ Leftovers
4 HP/252 SpAtk/252 Spe
Timid / Levitate

Psychic
Signal Beam
Shadow Ball
Hypnosis

Sludge bomb is a 4hko, I do whatever with Psychic.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Honchkrow @ Leftovers
Insomnia / Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
~ Sucker Punch
~ Drill Peck
~ Night Slash
~ Roost

 

[kirbyraeg]

Mawile @ Leftovers
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP
Adamant / Intimidate

Thunder Fang
Ice Fang
Fire Fang
Swords Dance

lol