THE COMEBACK!!: Melee Reviving Strive for NYC, Read First Page.

[Luck-NYC/NJ]

So what happened anyway Luck? You kinda suddenly stopped like Brawl for some reason. If you don't mind me asking.

Anyway I think people already know how much 'better' melee is vs. brawl. I don't think anyone is trying to prove anything in that respect. But you're hoping to diminish the population that plays brawl vs. plays melee. You know why the weekly gets a lot of people now right? Brawl. The amount of people who go to these events now go to specifically play brawl, so even if you try to 'steal' a good amount of the brawl people to go play melee it will be maybe about the same as the old weekly's with 15-20 ppl on a good day. It's not a bad thing, but you do realize that a lot of the old smashers who used to play melee, stopped then started to come around again for brawl.

I mean I don't know a lot, but that's just a friendly observation. And as I wrote above I don't like the idea of 'phasing it out' cause I enjoy both. And I also don't know why you gotta make these something we have to choose either, like GO MELEE OR GO BRAWL. Well whatever, in the end I'd rather play both games I mean I sat for a good while playing Melee with Vanz last weekly and I didn't want to stop. But yeah, that's my two cents.

JC that is a really good point. the weeklies are big because of brawl right now but i feel that its only because its something new. soon people will start to get bored of it because as much as people think its a fresh slate for people the results of the weekly are probably going to remain the same just like what happened to melee. The difference is melee is more fun i think people have just forgot that. as for the returning players it true they go just to play brawl and i can't change that, i can understand why some of the pros dont like melee anymore but i think brawl is just a distraction for those who were starting to get good at melee.

Like you said its pretty clear which game is better but also its about which game is more competitive. i think by itself that is a stupid statement but it relates to the playablity by competitive players. Brawl allows for matches between players clearly on two different skill levels to have close matches. I dont think thats fair for the advanced players.

I only want to phase brawl out because i dont think web2zone will consistantly allow two different tourneys a week to happen. so the only way to have melee make a completely comeback is to phase brawl out of weeklies.

I think brawl is fun, but to a certain extent. the game should be used for smashfests or maybe some occasional tourneys.

 

[Dark.Pch]

Get melee out here more. I'm for this.

Brawl is fun and all. But after the bull**** I see SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much in this game for competition. The fun does not stay for long. And the way people play this game......anyone wanna pitch a tent. Cause that is all I see. To me this aint no fighting game from what I see.

I'll help anyway I can to get melle tournys up, and if I recall, one of my crew members had a place to throw tournaments. We were gonna hold the second I.E tournament there. Its in BK But we have to rent the place and thats lots of cash right there. so if my crew does this, We are gonna have to charge a venue fee to pay for it.

I'll go for one of the to Peaches but not as fun as it was when I was going for it in melee

Melee>Brawl Nuff said. Let it be known!

 

[gkrackerr]

For some reason you're kinda the man.....just saying.....you remind me of reik. Not how you play necessarily, just like, idk...

For some reason your hair is mad sexy.... just saying... idk.

But of course, ty, ty. And I just looked up reik on youtube, he kinda plays like me, but smarter lol

 

[Alukard]

welli would love for melee to come back ... like i was saying to ron .. one week brawl one week melee should b fun ... people just need to step it up in melee if they say they can't do technical things ... thats wat practice is for

 

[Cia]

don't enter brawl weeklies

the people that support this thread make up about 30% - 35% of the tournament. their numbers are high because we got on the bandwagon and made those numbers high.

it might be hard.. but if you must, start off by entering only ONE event. at least they'll start to see those numbers decline.

luck and everyone else who supports this thread.. please do not bring a brawl set up.

less wii's means more tvs for melee.

 

[Luck-NYC/NJ]

the people that support this thread make up about 30% - 35% of the tournament. their numbers are high because we got on the bandwagon and made those numbers high.

it might be hard.. but if you must, start off by entering only ONE event. at least they'll start to see those numbers decline.

luck and everyone else who supports this thread.. please do not bring a brawl set up.

less wii's means more tvs for melee.

I LOVE THE WAY VANZ THINKS. son ima update the first page. i already posted this but on saturdays ima see if i can start off with mini tourneys or smashfests. the more attendance the better it will look. once we start gettin numbers i will through full fledged tourneys kinda like Zenith.

once we get that big and make the brawl weeklies look like toddler hour we can probably just take their slot on friday and make them move to saturday cuz we will be bringing web2zone more profit.

get at my evil ingenious plan to kill brawl

 

[Shinigami666]

You guys are messed up... Don't you see the many heads we getting because of Brawl... If you eliminate that.. it will make only the few regular people that would always be around when it was only melee.. not that it bothers me.. but that means less money... I personally like and enjoy both games but I hate the whole comparing ****... they are 2 different games.. if you guys honestly wanted to compare.. why didn't ya write to Sakurai and tell him not to make a next game and to just upload Melee 1.5 to the wii lol.

 

[-__-]

F!@# Yo Couch

 

[Zro]

naw the end plan is to phase out brawl all together. if it were to stay they our tourney attendance would just be hurt because people wouldnt have money for the next day everytime.

taka im sure once you combo again you'll start to wander away from brawl. also when you arent being really gayly chased by metaknight.

wow what a stupid post... u want to phase out brawl? yea i dont see that happening ever

i understand this. BTW Bum i intend to have these melee tourneys highly enjoyable and even have power rankings, consistent results and even matches recorded. These tourneys will start to garner attention and from that i plan to get people who are into brawl to just go back to melee.

i know why people like brawl. but after they see how much better melee is they wont stay there. the small amount of people who play for money will stop earning as much because of the attendence slowly slipping away and so they will eventually have no choice but to come back to melee.

@ niko: thanks for the support man, everyones contribution is much appreciated.

you realize that most people that are into brawl wont go back into melee... especially newcomers to the tourny scene.... they will either demand brawl and go somewhere else... or just stop playing

Get melee out here more. I'm for this.

Brawl is fun and all. But after the bull**** I see SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much in this game for competition. The fun does not stay for long. And the way people play this game......anyone wanna pitch a tent. Cause that is all I see. To me this aint no fighting game from what I see.

I'll help anyway I can to get melle tournys up, and if I recall, one of my crew members had a place to throw tournaments. We were gonna hold the second I.E tournament there. Its in BK But we have to rent the place and thats lots of cash right there. so if my crew does this, We are gonna have to charge a venue fee to pay for it.

I'll go for one of the to Peaches but not as fun as it was when I was going for it in melee

Melee>Brawl Nuff said. Let it be known!

so yea you complain about it being a campfest? tell me one person who camps excessively at the weeklies... i cant think of anyone

the people that support this thread make up about 30% - 35% of the tournament. their numbers are high because we got on the bandwagon and made those numbers high.

it might be hard.. but if you must, start off by entering only ONE event. at least they'll start to see those numbers decline.

luck and everyone else who supports this thread.. please do not bring a brawl set up.

less wii's means more tvs for melee.

wow jaden... to think you would stoop so low







What i dont understand is that ya would try to get rid of a tournament scene that could prosper and try to get rid other people's joy..... you could feel free and not go to the weeklies but there is no reason why both games cant co-exist.... have ya own weekly but dont try to destroy another game potential

 

[Alukard]

i wanna melee... altho brawl is there i would play either... i like melee more tho ... brawl is kinda boring in singles =\

 

[Rockin]

Okay, I just wanna say that as much as I support Melee and Brawl on a even level, I don't like this idea at all.

Taking out or 'phasing out' Brawl is a unfair way to get Melee back in W2Z. I mean, come on. What gives right for anyone to erase a game off the selection? 'Because it's a competitive game.' That's not a good enough reason.

And also, if this plan was to work, what about the Brawl players? Are they gonna be lost in the dust? without a venue to go to, they won't be able to play competitively like they do with at the weeklies. It's just...not cool

Now before anyone flames me and such, hear me out. I LOVE Melee. I met all the friends I care for in NY, and then some in NJ (CT counting cort and Milktea). I had some of the gayest matches on there, but I still laughed and learned after. I lost and won (mostly lost) MMs that were indeed memorable. There was just so many moments I enjoyed, and I wouldn't forget it. Melee is indeed the only game that attracted me to so many friends.

Then there's Brawl. It's a new game. New posibilities, new techs to be discovered, more friends to play with, another new connection to gaming. A

It's only been a month...and people are *****ing like crazy. Only a handful of techniques and peeps wanna say "I want Melee.' Now keep in mind, I main Peach and Meta Knight. Yes, PEACH. with a comparison of Brawl Peach and Melee Peach, it's obvious which areas were nerfed. Because of this, the amount of Peach mainers dropped INCLUDING the pros. What does this mean for me? I mean, despite all her 'nerfs' I still main her. Why? Because despite her, she is my character from the Melee days and I'm gonna continue this as long as she's playable.

What does it plainly mean? It means I'm willing to try new challenges. Point blank.

I play Brawl because it's competitive. **** tripping, **** increase floatiness, **** lack of combos, **** all of that. Brawl can be a competitive game just like Melee.

We are New York City smashers. we should be skilled in both Melee AND Brawl, ****it. No choice on one or the other.

I'm not saying to don't abandon Melee. By all means, bring it back. But don't ****ing try to crush a game other people enjoy playing, because that's ****ed up no matter how you see it. Brawl is a new game, a new game for people to be known and recognized.

As much as I want Melee back, I want no part of this. >>

 

[Luck-NYC/NJ]

ok since the main concern seems to be the completely phasing out of brawl i believe there should be some kind of compromise. all i want is a good healthy community for melee as do many others how bout we do this.

every week we alternate between melee and brawl weeklies. that way everyone who likes both games will be happy and the people who only like one game will at least get to play their game once a week?

hows that sound?

 

[TierWhore]

Idk if we should/can phase brawl out......I would much prefer that melee wasn't completely phased out like it has been. To say that one shouldn't completely phase out a game for no reason, and then completely leave melee (which the community has) is just hypocritical. Both games, as hard as it is, should coexist.

 

[Alex Strife]

WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY GOODNIGHT
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[HollaAtchaBoy]

This is actually kinda like my view on affirmative action.

In order to increase the rights of non-white, non-Christian, non-male people in America, we are purposefully going to restrict the rights of white Christian men so that we can "help" those who aren't white Christian men. Take race, for example. For a kid who's not white to get into college, the college decisions people take race into account so that they can meet self-created quotas of minority students, and those spots are given to perhaps less-qualified applicants on things that have absolutely no bearing on whether or not you are good enough to get into the university. The colleges, by practicing affirmative action, are admitting that race does matter and that non-white students need to be helped over white students in order to get in.

Now that's just bull****. I'm all for everyone getting an equal shot because I like all people (except Scientologists and Melee Marth Mains. Hey, everyone is biased). But the second you begin to fracture a community and limit the rights of the many for the sake of the few, I have a fuccking problem.

You guys want to bring to light "the wrongs" done to the Melee community. How you guys aren't having a chance to play since everyone is playing Brawl. Well, as much as I like Melee, I think it's simply idiotic to try and sabotage Brawl gatherings and tournaments simply so that the few people who absolutely hate Brawl can play Melee. That's asinine to a degree that I don't think most of you are grasping.

It's a confusing situation. For one part, these are two completely different games. It's like if the Melee crowd were trying to muscle out SF:3S tournaments for their spaces. Maybe you hate Street Fighter. Maybe you suck at it. Whatever the reasoning is, that doesn't give you the right to get self-righteous and say that your game is better and therefore all other games should be relegated to a lower status. At the same time, though, they are similar games. It's a similar community. We're NYC Smash. We all knew each other when Melee was the only choice and we loved Melee and that made us a family. A community. We worked together for a single purpose; to make NYC the best **** Melee community in the country.

Now I thought that when Brawl would come out something like this would happen. Some in the NYC Smash community would hate Brawl, some would love it so much that they would never touch Melee again, and some would love both and play both. But I thought that when this happened that we'd at least all be on the same page, not trying to fucck each other over.

Don't get me wrong. You're all my people. I know you all and you're all awesome kids. I'm very glad to know all of you and you're all down. I love Melee and it's a **** fine game that I wanna keep learning and getting better at. But I can't support any movement that's trying to purposefully split and sabotage the community that was built over the past five years.

For that reason I can't support any of this, or anyone involved in this, even if you guys are family.

 

[Dark.Pch]

so yea you complain about it being a campfest? tell me one person who camps excessively at the weeklies... i cant think of anyone

Lets see....

Vanz says he camps in brawl in singles

I played Dires brother and he camped me with snake in a tournament match.

I played Renos Toon link and all he did was camp

My own crew member who mains pit just camps.

I play people online and I fight more campers then fighers. Thats all this game is to alot of people and it makes this game freaking boring and no fun dealing with people like that. The way people play this game now kills the fun of it.



I dont care where brawl goes. It can stay for all I care. I just want some melee action as well not just brawl. People are fiends for this game. Its cool and all but I would like to play some melee and get the hype on with that as well.

 

[gkrackerr]

This is actually kinda like my view on affirmative action.

In order to increase the rights of non-white, non-Christian, non-male people in America, we are purposefully going to restrict the rights of white Christian men so that we can "help" those who aren't white Christian men. Take race, for example. For a kid who's not white to get into college, the college decisions people take race into account so that they can meet self-created quotas of minority students, and those spots are given to perhaps less-qualified applicants on things that have absolutely no bearing on whether or not you are good enough to get into the university. The colleges, by practicing affirmative action, are admitting that race does matter and that non-white students need to be helped over white students in order to get in.

Now that's just bull****. I'm all for everyone getting an equal shot because I like all people (except Scientologists and Melee Marth Mains. Hey, everyone is biased). But the second you begin to fracture a community and limit the rights of the many for the sake of the few, I have a fuccking problem.

You guys want to bring to light "the wrongs" done to the Melee community. How you guys aren't having a chance to play since everyone is playing Brawl. Well, as much as I like Melee, I think it's simply idiotic to try and sabotage Brawl gatherings and tournaments simply so that the few people who absolutely hate Brawl can play Melee. That's asinine to a degree that I don't think most of you are grasping.

It's a confusing situation. For one part, these are two completely different games. It's like if the Melee crowd were trying to muscle out SF:3S tournaments for their spaces. Maybe you hate Street Fighter. Maybe you suck at it. Whatever the reasoning is, that doesn't give you the right to get self-righteous and say that your game is better and therefore all other games should be relegated to a lower status. At the same time, though, they are similar games. It's a similar community. We're NYC Smash. We all knew each other when Melee was the only choice and we loved Melee and that made us a family. A community. We worked together for a single purpose; to make NYC the best **** Melee community in the country.

Now I thought that when Brawl would come out something like this would happen. Some in the NYC Smash community would hate Brawl, some would love it so much that they would never touch Melee again, and some would love both and play both. But I thought that when this happened that we'd at least all be on the same page, not trying to fucck each other over.

Don't get me wrong. You're all my people. I know you all and you're all awesome kids. I'm very glad to know all of you and you're all down. I love Melee and it's a **** fine game that I wanna keep learning and getting better at. But I can't support any movement that's trying to purposefully split and sabotage the community that was built over the past five years.

For that reason I can't support any of this, or anyone involved in this, even if you guys are family.

qf the mother****in truth

Everybody who is for melee, I'm with you on that one. But for tryin to phase out brawl that just aint right.

If in order to bring melee back we have to bring down another community, I'm not going to support it. What I am for is, as Luck suggested, trying to get alternate weeks, and create a kind of bi-weekly for brawl and for melee. If this doesn't work out, so be it, people can still hold smashfests and their own mini tournies. But seriously, is it really a good decision to split a community over a matter like this? I'll answer that myself, no, it is most certainly not.

I know that I haven't been around as long as everybody else in this community, and that there are a decent amount of people that haven't heard/played/talked/or seen me at all. But I have been here long enough to grasp how tight some friendships are, and how ****ing amazin it is to play a game, even if it's not your game of choice, but to play it with friends that will make it so much better.

my two cents

 

[CasshernDGZ]

This is actually kinda like my view on affirmative action.

In order to increase the rights of non-white, non-Christian, non-male people in America, we are purposefully going to restrict the rights of white Christian men so that we can "help" those who aren't white Christian men. Take race, for example. For a kid who's not white to get into college, the college decisions people take race into account so that they can meet self-created quotas of minority students, and those spots are given to perhaps less-qualified applicants on things that have absolutely no bearing on whether or not you are good enough to get into the university. The colleges, by practicing affirmative action, are admitting that race does matter and that non-white students need to be helped over white students in order to get in.

Now that's just bull****. I'm all for everyone getting an equal shot because I like all people (except Scientologists and Melee Marth Mains. Hey, everyone is biased). But the second you begin to fracture a community and limit the rights of the many for the sake of the few, I have a fuccking problem.

You guys want to bring to light "the wrongs" done to the Melee community. How you guys aren't having a chance to play since everyone is playing Brawl. Well, as much as I like Melee, I think it's simply idiotic to try and sabotage Brawl gatherings and tournaments simply so that the few people who absolutely hate Brawl can play Melee. That's asinine to a degree that I don't think most of you are grasping.

It's a confusing situation. For one part, these are two completely different games. It's like if the Melee crowd were trying to muscle out SF:3S tournaments for their spaces. Maybe you hate Street Fighter. Maybe you suck at it. Whatever the reasoning is, that doesn't give you the right to get self-righteous and say that your game is better and therefore all other games should be relegated to a lower status. At the same time, though, they are similar games. It's a similar community. We're NYC Smash. We all knew each other when Melee was the only choice and we loved Melee and that made us a family. A community. We worked together for a single purpose; to make NYC the best **** Melee community in the country.

Now I thought that when Brawl would come out something like this would happen. Some in the NYC Smash community would hate Brawl, some would love it so much that they would never touch Melee again, and some would love both and play both. But I thought that when this happened that we'd at least all be on the same page, not trying to fucck each other over.

Don't get me wrong. You're all my people. I know you all and you're all awesome kids. I'm very glad to know all of you and you're all down. I love Melee and it's a **** fine game that I wanna keep learning and getting better at. But I can't support any movement that's trying to purposefully split and sabotage the community that was built over the past five years.

For that reason I can't support any of this, or anyone involved in this, even if you guys are family.

HAB I completely agree with you. DGZ all day!. Now as for your comment Drk.Pch. If Camping is such a big deal then camp yourself. A lot of people feel as though this game requires so much skill, this game is bs. If this is the case. WHY DO THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP WINNING. It makes no sense. Like just think for a second, the tournaments aren't sporadic or anything. Stop complaining about brawl, there are various people, (SCAR, TUNES CREW) Who are all for melee. If you want to play melee, do you, but don't snuff another game out. Anyone who actually thought something so assholish should just straight KWIT, no fuggin johns either.

 

[Alex Strife]

I like how luck used my suggestion thanks luck for the credit X-P

 

[TierWhore]

qf the mother****in truth

Everybody who is for melee, I'm with you on that one. But for tryin to phase out brawl that just aint right.

If in order to bring melee back we have to bring down another community, I'm not going to support it. What I am for is, as Luck suggested, trying to get alternate weeks, and create a kind of bi-weekly for brawl and for melee. If this doesn't work out, so be it, people can still hold smashfests and their own mini tournies. But seriously, is it really a good decision to split a community over a matter like this? I'll answer that myself, no, it is most certainly not.

I know that I haven't been around as long as everybody else in this community, and that there are a decent amount of people that haven't heard/played/talked/or seen me at all. But I have been here long enough to grasp how tight some friendships are, and how ****ing amazin it is to play a game, even if it's not your game of choice, but to play it with friends that will make it so much better.

my two cents

I fcking love you dude, ****....and HAB of course. That goes without saying

 

[BUM163]

yo this thread gotten stupid, luck in order for melee to happen, you have to go though me for nyc. the way your doin things, i don't respect it. hab said the best thing i seen about this. your tryin to snuff out a game that is obviously different and new. i wouldn't mind melee being played, but the way this melee crowd handles things is not how u handle this situation. i'm dk in brawl and how come people can't camp me.

the game only had 2 months and people already wanna quit. i'm gonna point out alot of ****, cuz this is the last time i speak on this. in melee alukard u my boy, but ur *** neva play melee singles real talk, don't even try to front like u did, at least in nyc u neva did. singles to you was always boring whether melee or brawl. perfect shield eliminates camping just cause right after u spam a move n u perfect shield, u can counter instant. ya need to stop attackin brawl especially cause it just came out.

melee commuity could of went about this postive and not even mention negativity about brawl. just say ya feel like melee shouldn't die and ya feel it should be back in the cycle. that would of been great. trying to take out another game is like being jealous just cause whateva ur opinion is about a game. please let's do this the right and smart way, instead of arguing back and forth about what game is better and explain why it's better. melee and brawl are both great games in my eyes. hopefully we can discuss this properly witout insults towards one or the other. take care people.

 

[Cia]

ok.. soo much of this thread is TL;DR. but i did catch zro's post.

is it really low to try and get something that was taken from you?? u say we wanna take away YOUR fun?? what do you think u did to us?? yeah it's new game, yeah you wanna play it for a while, but face it., THE GAME IS BORING AND EASY!! myself and many others have no competitive drive for this game WHAT SO EVER. and that's what a tournament is. a COMPETITION.

IMO, the only people that want brawl for tournament are those who were not as successful in melee. and sorry, if i sound like an ***.. but so far, i've been dead on.

overall' its not that i don't like brawl, i just don't like it in tournament..

and don't give me that co-existing crap, because when we tried that, we got "melee's dead!! let it RIP"

 

[HollaAtchaBoy]

You really need to get back on AIM somehow, Vanz. This being the only way to talk to you is inefficient. I want Bubble Tea...

Was I absolute garbage at Melee? Hell Yeah. I kinda didn't have the experience all you guys had, and let's face it, I couldn't DI to save my life. I'm not denying that. In fact, that's further justification to keep Melee alive, so that I can get better at it.

The only reason why we haven't seen Melee at the weeklies is because everyone is still tackling Brawl and trying to get at the depth of it, whether or not you guys think there is any or not.

The impatience is a real problem. It's been, what, eight weeks? I mean really, it's been eight weeks. That's hardly any time at all. We had like, what, 55 people in singles for the past few weeks? You know why that is? Everyone thinks they wanna try to see how good they are at Brawl. That's fine. There's no problem with that. Those of us that like it are gonna keep playing it, and those of us that don't? We're gonna stop coming to Brawl weeklies. We're not gonna play the game at a tournament. There's no problem with that. Populations at the Brawl weeklies will dwindle, and those of us like Luck, Vanz, Alukard, you guys will do our thing. Don't play Brawl. Play only Melee. That's fine.

As time progresses, more people would agree with you guys that Melee is better than Brawl and they won't play Brawl at weeklies, and there will be an increase in Melee-only players, and the system would work itself out. The two games would come to coexist in an orderly way and reach homeostasis (look that **** up)

But the point is that this takes time! It takes time for people to realize how they feel about games, and all of a sudden wanting to overthrow the entire system after eight weeks (for some only about four) is totally reactionary and selfish. Why can't Melee and Brawl coexist right now? Because everyone is still trying Brawl out. They're sorting out how they feel about it. Quite a few people are probably gonna play the game and maybe find that the game doesn't have as much depth as Melee and decide to boycott the Brawl weeklies because they are too impatient for the game to develop a metagame of it's own.

For some people that takes longer than a month or two.

I was looking at my buddy list and saw guys like Shin and Reno. I feel like I have to ask them if they're part of this anti-Brawl movement. Like if they're for or against Brawl. I feel like I HAVE to do that. Like I need to sort out the people I can associate with and the people I can't. When did this happen? I mean, how did we let ourselves get into a situation like that?

Just because a majority of NYC Smashers can't play the game for a month and make up their minds doesn't mean they need to be forcibly mobilized into an ultimatum by those of us that can.

 

[Cia]

one more thing. why is it a bad thing to tell people NOT to support something you don't enjoy.

the only reason i still go to these is because i enjoy being around the people (and nothing else to do on friday <_<) but i used to have fun. but now, people are changing, i find myself arguing w/ people i once called friends, everyone is divided because no one is on the same level.. it was never like that.

you say it's wrong to push brawl completely out, but isn't that what you did?? [brawl people] and if the only way we can have melee back is to take ths supporters and go else where, is THAT wrong too??

just because words like "sabotage" and "unfair" are thrown around does not justify your argument.

 

[Zro]

i love u tier... u are 2 good.... and i support co-existance

 

[CasshernDGZ]

Patience is virtue.

 

[Zro]

Lets see....

Vanz says he camps in brawl in singles

I played Dires brother and he camped me with snake in a tournament match.

I played Renos Toon link and all he did was camp

My own crew member who mains pit just camps.

I play people online and I fight more campers then fighers. Thats all this game is to alot of people and it makes this game freaking boring and no fun dealing with people like that. The way people play this game now kills the fun of it.



I dont care where brawl goes. It can stay for all I care. I just want some melee action as well not just brawl. People are fiends for this game. Its cool and all but I would like to play some melee and get the hype on with that as well.

do u realize that u just named all the people that are either using campy characters or people that camped in melee..... regardless of the game.... THEY WILL CAMP
next time u post plz choose ur words carefully jeez

 

[ELI-mination]

All of the times I've played against or watched Vanz and Reno in melee, I've never seen them camp. I have no idea who his crew member is, but sure Pit is a campy character indeed. And I have no idea who Dire's brother is. But as far as I know, Vanz and Reno don't camp in melee.

 

[Rockin]

one more thing. why is it a bad thing to tell people NOT to support something you don't enjoy.

the only reason i still go to these is because i enjoy being around the people (and nothing else to do on friday <_<) but i used to have fun. but now, people are changing, i find myself arguing w/ people i once called friends, everyone is divided because no one is on the same level.. it was never like that.

you say it's wrong to push brawl completely out, but isn't that what you did?? [brawl people] and if the only way we can have melee back is to take ths supporters and go else where, is THAT wrong too??

just because words like "sabotage" and "unfair" are thrown around does not justify your argument.

Vanz, don't get me wrong. Again, I love melee. I kept telling you/wanting to hang out with you more so we can play Melee and Brawl.

The only thing I don't like is the method of getting back Melee. I want Melee, but not to have it take off Brawl like that. I'm not arguing with you Vanz...

I wish there was another venue so we can host tourys for Melee >_>

 

[Cia]

yeeeeeah, 8 weeks w/o something you really enjoy SUCKS IMO. and time is a luxury that NOT everyone can't afford.

i've said this in another thread already.. but WE ARE NOT STUPID. we know what to look for in a fighter. some us play many fighting games. (myself, bum, travis, zro, reno etc.) we know what makes a game competative and ITS JUST NOT IN BRAWL. it does not take 8 weeks (12 for some) to realize that. the game is fun, but its as fast as like.. street fighter 2.. that sets us back 15+ years.. no freaking adrenaline rush at all

also homeostasis in a nutshell.. "balance." biology and genetics is mah turf ^_^

 

[TierWhore]

i love u tier... u are 2 good.... and i support co-existance

I love you too, no homo...

 

[HollaAtchaBoy]

also homeostasis in a nutshell.. "balance." biology and genetics is mah turf ^_^

Get at you. ^_^

Get at 10th grade biology and my memory for weird *** terms like homeostasis from it...

 

[Cia]

Get at you. ^_^

Get at 10th grade biology and my memory for weird *** terms like homeostasis from it...

LOL.. i know..

all this arguing makes me want bubbletea..

but seriously.. what you may have seen was mostly out of anger and frustration.. brawl is fun, and we don't care that people like it.. but throw some melee back in the mix, and everyone will be happy.

 

[Zro]

LOL.. i know..

all this arguing makes me want bubbletea..

but seriously.. what you may have seen was mostly out of anger and frustration.. brawl is fun, and we don't care that people like it.. but throw some melee back in the mix, and everyone will be happy.

i fully agree but i dont want brawl gone... im cool wit melee comin back its lots of fun... i just dont wanna b forced to pick one


i do disagree with wat u said b4 that tho.... street fighter 2 has like one of the largest communities ever... and is super competitive... there is so much thought and it actually has a really good speed... so watch it buddy

 

[Cia]

i just dont wanna b forced to pick one

this post 100% sympathetic to my aim.

oh, and ur right. i meent that capcom fightind evolution crap. with the ****ing dinosaur

 

[TierWhore]

If everyone, or at least everyone who has posted, wants compromise/coexistence, what's the problem with having 4 brawl setups and 4 melee setups? Unless of course we would do melee and brawl bi-weeklies, an equal amount of setups sounds optimal.

I think i see an inherent problem, which is that a lot of people want only brawl and will be pissed when there are melee setups, even if they claim to want to compromise. That is the heart of the problem. As much as they want to, they don't want it to interfere with their game. Although I suppose there is a larger brawl community, making more setups necessary, there should be more than 1 measly melee setup on a small *** screen. If you all actually want compromise (which, as much as everyone says it, I doubt is what everyone truly wants) then lets compromise for real, the right way.

 

[CasshernDGZ]

i've said this in another thread already.. but WE ARE NOT STUPID. we know what to look for in a fighter. some us play many fighting games. (myself, bum, travis, zro, reno etc.) we know what makes a game competative and ITS JUST NOT IN BRAWL. it does not take 8 weeks (12 for some) to realize that. the game is fun, but its as fast as like.. street fighter 2.. that sets us back 15+ years.. no freaking adrenaline rush at all

also homeostasis in a nutshell.. "balance." biology and genetics is mah turf ^_^

Read about what you just posted Vanz, you just said it does not take 8 weeks to realize that a game is competitive. Wow, so your telling me teh competitive nature of melee came out in 2 weeks? Word right, So I suppose everyone was Wavedashing and drillshining in 8 weeks. The answer is no, don't be biased because the game is different, just let the game rock for a bit longer if it's still not to your standards just stick to melee, or play something else because it this rate Brawl is here to stay.

 

[Zro]

this post 100% sympathetic to my aim.

oh, and ur right. i meent that capcom fightind evolution crap. with the ****ing dinosaur

dude ur totally rite... cap fightin evo. sucks so bad... good concept, not enough characters lol

 

[TierWhore]

Read about what you just posted Vanz, you just said it does not take 8 weeks to realize that a game is competitive. Wow, so your telling me teh competitive nature of melee came out in 2 weeks? Word right, So I suppose everyone was Wavedashing and drillshining in 8 weeks. The answer is no, don't be biased because the game is different, just let the game rock for a bit longer if it's still not to your standards just stick to melee, or play something else because it this rate Brawl is here to stay.

You completely misunderstand. The game does not become competitive because of the advanced techniques. The lack of hitstun completely disallows for extensive combos etc., thus making this game not as competitive. Melee had hitstun from day 1.

 

[CasshernDGZ]

If everyone, or at least everyone who has posted, wants compromise/coexistence, what's the problem with having 4 brawl setups and 4 melee setups? Unless of course we would do melee and brawl bi-weeklies, an equal amount of setups sounds optimal.

I think i see an inherent problem, which is that a lot of people want only brawl and will be pissed when there are melee setups, even if they claim to want to compromise. That is the heart of the problem. As much as they want to, they don't want it to interfere with their game. Although I suppose there is a larger brawl community, making more setups necessary, there should be more than 1 measly melee setup on a small *** screen. If you all actually want compromise (which, as much as everyone says it, I doubt is what everyone truly wants) then lets compromise for real, the right way.

Sorry for the double post, but it had to be done I suppose. The honest to god truth is that you can not compromise. At least in teh sense that one person cannot really play both games competitively because each game messes up your skill in the other due to the sheer difference in game speed and mechanics. So in essence, some big wad of shiz is going to have to hit the fan sooner or later before this is resolved.