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I can't say for sure, but I've heard that she doesn't have a solid reversal, so she can't break out of pressure, and she lacks an overhead that isn't a jump, so her mixup and pressure are pretty weak. But imo, that's not really what Plat is about, so... I guess we'll see?
Learn a 3C combo because they are the most damaging. Then learn something that combos into 3C so you can safely get a 3C combo. :3c
Yeah, she doesn't have a solid reversal that's a special. Her bat's a reversal but that's only if you have it equipped.
Well... Isn't my current idea of going 3C into 22BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBC any good? I can sometimes get 3k from it in the corner.
Average of these two lists:
S: Makoto, Jin, Noel
S-/A+: Tao, Hazama
A: Carl, Rachel, Valkenhayn
A-/B+: Lambda, Litchi, Tsubaki, Arakune, Mu
B: Ragna, Hakumen
B-/C+: Platinum, Bang
C: TagerReally? What were her changes?
But you can get like 5 to 6k in the corner off of a 3C. Or 3.5 to 4k midscreen. Not saying that 22BxN doesn't do good damage, but there's better stuff, if you're willing to put the time in.
The biggest ones are 214D having more startup time and recovery (to the point where it can't be combo'd from without meter to RC), the Crescent corner loop being shortened (down to about 3 reps from about 7), Crescent height restriction, and 214A no longer having upper body invincibility. 214D was her best hit confirm and 214A was her best DP, so those two getting nerfed are a big problem for her. Nerfing the corner loop is kind of a big deal for her also considering how good everyone else is in the corner.
Well, I'm going to put the time in! :D
Well, hey, as long as she's decent, I'm happy. ^_^
I guess so. I just still really miss CT Nu.
No, he's still tierwhoring since he's pretty much consistently been in the top 5 ever since he was released.
Top? What? He's high, not top. He's never been top, otherwise you would have heard people *****ing about him endlessly like they did with Rachel/Lambda/Arakune in CT and Bang/Litchi in CS1.
Three major problems with this post, two of which aren't completely your fault:
True but you get my point that he is still high :D
Tao being top isn't going to change anything, besides her already being top in CS1, no one plays her for whatever reason. I don't see that changing much.
They shouldn't really be balanced relative to eachother, they should be balanced relative to the rest of the cast. Top tiers in Melee are balanced relative to eachother but Melee as a whole is a poorly balanced game because a person playing, say, Yoshi, has very little chance against a Fox player of the same level. MvC2 is probably the best example of this since the 4 gods are balanced amongst eachother (Sentinel beats Magneto beats Cable beats Sentinel and Storm goes about even with all of them) but almost nobody else in that game is viable.
This is kind of a skewed case because:
All of the things in bold are also not reasons to pick up a character. You shouldn't force yourself to play a character just because of their design because they might end up either being terrible or completely clashing with your playstyle. If you had told me before MvC3 came out that I would be using Sentinel I would have called you a ride back to the mental hospital because my opinion of him was so low. "No permanent super armor, slower than ever, flight only lasts for a few seconds, and no Cable to back him up? No way I'd play a character like that. I'm going to stick with good zoning characters like Arthur, Chris, and MODOK." But it turns out that I was totally wrong about Sentinel and that he was still as good at zoning as he was in MvC2 only with more of an emphasis on his ground game instead of flying away. I ended up loving that character and hating MODOK and Chris because their zoning was one dimensional and just generally really bad. I also wanted to main Ibuki before SSFIV came out but I ended up just not being that good with her, so I soulsearched and found Dhalsim. It's really better to go into a game with an open mind about how characters are going to play and to try all of them out than to just make kneejerk reactions on who to play based on how cool they look or their breast size or whatever. I mean ****, do you think anyone would play someone bland like Jin if they didn't fit their playstyle?
Wow, you told me something I already read about 2 days ago because I follow Marvel more closely than any other game. You sure showed me.
I believe Hazama hates cats in-game, so it's likely that Raziek is just trying to stay in-character with his main. It's pretty dumb but then again I throw swords at people so I guess I can't judge.
Considering Nu was the only real bad matchup for Rachel, I sure don't. lol
This also depends highly on the size of your cast. Brawl is a game of about 36 characters, and roughly 11 or 12 are viable at high level play. That's actually not that bad, MK just happens to bust things a bit. When you consider that both Brawl and Melee are not actively balanced by the developers, that level of balance is not awful.
Could you be much more closed minded?
Major respect lost, Gates. Brawl is a platforming fighter. Deal with it.Considering you directly said that you believed the nerf was a kneejerk based on post-release whining, yeah, actually, I believe I did.
No, I actually ****ing hate Tao, lmao. She's like the most annoying character in the game to play against, both from a character design AND a playstyle perspective. She has complete freedom of movement and also happens to be annoying as all hell.
Really? Their design? I guess if you like Lady Gaga.
What?
...so Minato made good use of germanium?
Well there is such a thing as TOO derpy.
Oh, so that's why KumaOso decided to pick up Tao.
"A bit"? Have things changed since I last played Brawl? Cause I seem to remember Metaknight pretty much dictating the entire metagame. And there's only 8 characters besides MK that are viable in Brawl - Everyone in A tier, Pikachu, and Olimar. Dedede sucks, Game & Watch sucks, and Lucario and ZSS struggle a lot against the high tiers. Everyone else isn't viable either to a cripplingly bad matchup against one or more of the high tiers or the fact that they're just plain bad.
That's like saying when you consider the fact that George Lucas didn't actually put any thought into the story structure or seek out any advice from people about the screenplay of the Star Wars prequels they weren't completely terrible movies. A game being unbalanced is unacceptable regardless of how much effort the developer put into it.
Could you be much more naive?Could you be much more closed minded?
Major respect lost, Raziek. Melee is a platforming fighter. Brawl is a fundamentally broken, slow, unbalanced pile of ****. Deal with it.Because Japan shares a border with France, so they're aware of eachothers' culture and business models. Duh.
Dude, that's even why he said that he wanted to play Tao.
Ubisoft aren't aware of the inner working of Capcom, but they ARE aware of how long it takes to get through Microsoft QA, and how long it usually takes to develop a match.
To annoy Hazama?
While he still virtually dictates the metagame, there are still people who consistent place at regionals and nationals with characters as low as the bottom of B tier. All of the character you said suck have been doing work. Coney almost beat M2K recently (Due to lack of a ledge grab limit), Vinnie just recently placed quite high at WHOBO3 using GW/ICs, NickRiddle consistenty places high with ZSS, and Trela and Junebug are still placing with Lucario. inb4nameseraches.
Umm, not really, the just means that the effective cast is the same size. If a game with 12 characters is perfectly balanced, and a game with 36 characters has 12 viable characters, then the effective cast size is still the same. The key is having at least 5-6 viable characters to keep some variety in the game.
Seriously, you guys are *****. There's no reason at all for you to be elitist about it.Could you be much more naive?
So, uh, a multi-platform game defers to Microsoft now? I'm confused.
By that definition, Starcraft, WoW, and every FPS are fighting games, it's just that their definition of combat is different.
No, Kuma loves characters with good mobility and mixups and a zany playstyle.
You wanna point out Gimpyfish and Taj while you're at it? Hell, let's talk about Justin Wong taking 2 games off the best Ryu in Canada with Dan.
But did you Dededecide him?...
Elitist? I am not being elitist, I am making points. Do you want me to be elitist? THIIIIS IS BEING AN ELIIIITIST. ALL THESE NEW GAMES ARE SO DUUUMB. THESE SHORTCUTS ARE SO SCRUBBY AND THESE COMEBACK MECHANICS ARE GAAAAY. FIRST THAT STUPID RAGEQUIT MODE IN TEKKEN THEN EASY LEDGEGRABS IN BRAWL THEN ULTRAS IN SFIV THEN RAGNA THE DERPEDGE AND THE NISSAN ICE CAR AND NOW X-FACTOR. THESE BLOCKSTRINGS ARE SO SAFE AND EASY TOO, COULDN'T THEY PUT FRCS INTO THE GAME? AND WHAT IS UP WITH FOCUS ATTACKS, PARRIES WERE SOOO MUCH BETTER. EVERYTHING SINCE KOF98 HAS BEEN AAAAAAAAA***.
I believe both were attempted to be balanced. Regardless, an game is imbalanced whether or not the developers actively balanced it or not.
See? And Zero's a total furry, so he's obviously speaking from his experiences as a Lucario main, just as I was speaking from my experiences as a Dedede main.
Microsoft and Sony likely have similar standards with their online services.
The term you were searching for is "2D fighters".
I kind of have to agree with this though. Raziek, you are kind of blowing this out of proportion. I didn't intend my original comment with any hate or malice or anything but you seem to have misinterpreted it and it's spiraled into this ridiculous flame war.
lololololllolololol
But...But *dashes away in sorrow*
Nah, I already did that on Friday for April Fool's day.
BBCS2 is being released for the PSP but it was leaked early to Japanese PSPs. Damn near everyone who owns a PSP has jailbroke it and uses it for piracy (and if they don't they're dumb), so there's a lot of people playing it now.
You date horses? Maybe we really aren't the same person.
