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[TSON]
Hella.
Darn it, that's the third time I've made that mistake >__>
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The Big PSA List thread *updated 02/16/10*
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[TSON]
Hella.
1E000100 is super armor, just like 1E000200, but it only has one parameter
[TSON]
Hella.
04020100 always seems to contradict the if that it is inside. I am guessing that it's some sort of "jump to other if if requirement is met", like it'd be
If: On Ground
Subaction = (blah)
04020100: In Air
Else:
If: In Air
Subaction = (Blah)
04020100: On Ground
End If:
I'm guessing if the requirement doesn't work for some reason all of a sudden, but you're already in that If:, it'll jump to the else. Just a guess.
If: On Ground
Subaction = (blah)
04020100: In Air
Else:
If: In Air
Subaction = (Blah)
04020100: On Ground
End If:
I'm guessing if the requirement doesn't work for some reason all of a sudden, but you're already in that If:, it'll jump to the else. Just a guess.
[TSON]
Hella.
Snake's C4 uses the following values to check if there is something nearby to stick.
Person:
06101100 - 0x0, 0x0, 0x3, 5.00x, 0.00x, -3.00x, 0.00x, 0x2, 0x1, 0x3, False, 0xF, 0x1, False, 0x1, True, 0x0
Wall:
Bit Variable Set - RA-Bit[1]
06101100 - 0x0, 0x0, 0x3, 5.00x, 0.00x, 0.00x, 0.00x, 0x2, 0x1, 0x3, False, 0xF, 0x1, False, 0x1, True, 0x0
If anyone cares
Person:
06101100 - 0x0, 0x0, 0x3, 5.00x, 0.00x, -3.00x, 0.00x, 0x2, 0x1, 0x3, False, 0xF, 0x1, False, 0x1, True, 0x0
Wall:
Bit Variable Set - RA-Bit[1]
06101100 - 0x0, 0x0, 0x3, 5.00x, 0.00x, 0.00x, 0.00x, 0x2, 0x1, 0x3, False, 0xF, 0x1, False, 0x1, True, 0x0
If anyone cares
ThatGuyYouMightKnow
Smash Champion
Those bolded values being the perimeter?
leafbarrett
Smash Lord
Okay, I give. I've looked everywhere to find how to use a defensive collision to reflect. I tried copying it from Aang (Ness moveset) on a move I know for a fact reflects, and all I got was a canceled fireball because of the offensive collision. I checked Lucas's fsmash (which can hit projectiles back as if they were baseballs), and it didn't have a defensive collision at all. What am I missing here? Defensive collisions don't have any labeled parameters, or I wouldn't be stuck. ;_;
Eldiran
Smash Lord
Use Pit's Down+B or Over+B. I copied a buncha Defensive collisions from those, and one (or more) of them worked.
leafbarrett
Smash Lord
That's identical to the defensive collision I got from the Aang moveset AND Mario's moveset, neither of which worked. Do offensive collisions disable the defensive collisions or something?
Eldiran
Smash Lord
Mmmaybe they both have the same ID, and the offensive one is overwriting it? /wild guessing
leafbarrett
Smash Lord
...Which parameter is the ID? x_x
Eldiran
Smash Lord
*shrug* Just try not having the offensive collision in there, and see if it works.
leafbarrett
Smash Lord
[TSON]
Hella.
The bolded being the differing parameters
[TSON]
Hella.
I tried this with Lucario's upB (195D0) and it gave an INSANE momentum boost when aimed upwards. Normally, Lucario's upB uses 12030100. So yeah.
AMKalmar
Smash Ace
How were the filenames collected for these?
[TSON]
Hella.
If anyone knows how to make communication between an article and a character, please do tell. Variables do not work. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it's in the "link" events.
IC-Basic[169] is your location, as confirmed by this:
Float Variable Set - RA-Float[0] = IC-Basic[169]
Change Action(2) - ID=0x2, Requirement=Compare, Variable=RA-Float[0], Comparison= <= Variable=0.00x
This is how Ness/Lucas's PK Thunder checks if it hits the player. It sets RA-Float[0] to the value in IC-Basic[169].
EDIT2:
And 0B: FF = hit the character that you belong to (for articles)
IC-Basic[169] is your location, as confirmed by this:
Float Variable Set - RA-Float[0] = IC-Basic[169]
Change Action(2) - ID=0x2, Requirement=Compare, Variable=RA-Float[0], Comparison= <= Variable=0.00x
This is how Ness/Lucas's PK Thunder checks if it hits the player. It sets RA-Float[0] to the value in IC-Basic[169].
EDIT2:
And 0B: FF = hit the character that you belong to (for articles)
Rickerdy-doo-da-day
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Is there a way to view changes and modifications you've made on PSA on something other than a hacked Wii/Brawl? I can't hack my Wii because other members of my family use it and if they found out, my parents would take it off me since it can be used for illegal stuff (I know full well what people do here isn't illegal but you know what people are like ~.~)
I've just been throwing out random guesses at what stuff does, if I could actually see what happens I could probably be much more accurate with stuff
I've just been throwing out random guesses at what stuff does, if I could actually see what happens I could probably be much more accurate with stuff
JoeGrandma
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This is sort of an extension / spinoff of AMKalmar's question:
When you open people's .pacs in BrawlBox, they only have some of their personal GFX there. For example, you can only edit 6 out of Lucas' 15 GFX, and some people are missing all of them, like the Ice Climbers (well, they're weird anyways).
Also, when you open common3, only some of the universal GFX are there. They're named differently from the names that are listed on the OP, but after a while. the names are all different. What's even worse is that only 30-something of them are there.
...Any explanation?
When you open people's .pacs in BrawlBox, they only have some of their personal GFX there. For example, you can only edit 6 out of Lucas' 15 GFX, and some people are missing all of them, like the Ice Climbers (well, they're weird anyways).
Also, when you open common3, only some of the universal GFX are there. They're named differently from the names that are listed on the OP, but after a while. the names are all different. What's even worse is that only 30-something of them are there.
...Any explanation?
AMKalmar
Smash Ace
If you open an effect file using a hex editor, scroll down a bit and you'll start seeing some names. They're the same as what's listed but written somewhat differently.
In ef_common.pac we see
PtcCommonHitNormalA.PtcCommonHitNormalShockWave. etc.
Instead of
01 SYS_HIT_NORMAL
02 SYS_HIT_NORMAL_SHOCK etc.
Related question:
How do you know which file corresponds to which File#?
ef_mario.pac is #1, ef_donkey.pac is #2 etc. so at first it looks like the characters go in order of character ID but then zss isn't after samus. And what about all the assist and enemy effects?
Basically, is there a way of figuring it out or is it trial and error?
In ef_common.pac we see
PtcCommonHitNormalA.PtcCommonHitNormalShockWave. etc.
Instead of
01 SYS_HIT_NORMAL
02 SYS_HIT_NORMAL_SHOCK etc.
Related question:
Code:
Event:
11010A00
External Graphic Effect
Generate a graphical effect from an external file. (usually the Ef_<character> file)
0011111113
Parameters:
11010A00
Graphic
The file from which to call from/The graphical effect to call. Where XXXXYYYY is X=File# Y=Graphic id
Bone
The bone to attach the graphical effect to.
Z Offset
Transition from the attached bone along the Z axis.
Y Offset
Transition from the attached bone along the Y axis.
X Offset
Transition from the attached bone along the X axis.
Z Rotation
Rotation along the Z axis.
Y Rotation
Rotation along the Y axis.
X Rotation
Rotation along the X axis.
Size
The size of the graphic.
Undefined
Undefined: Appears to effect weather the graphic is a separate object from the character or parented to the character.ef_mario.pac is #1, ef_donkey.pac is #2 etc. so at first it looks like the characters go in order of character ID but then zss isn't after samus. And what about all the assist and enemy effects?
Basically, is there a way of figuring it out or is it trial and error?
JoeGrandma
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You can look at one of their attacks that use one of their personal GFX. Like in Lucas' PSI Magnet, there's an external graphic effect with file 1B, so Lucas' file is 1B. I would assume that that works with other people too.
AMKalmar
Smash Ace
Yes, but what about SSE characters and assist trophies. We can't open those in PSA.
Is there a more complete Attributes List?
Is there a more complete Attributes List?
Rickerdy-doo-da-day
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Moar questions
So in PSA when you look at the Offset for something it gives a code with a series of numbers and letters
I was wondering - if you alter the offset by increasing the value of one of the digits does that show you more information of the event?
For example, I'm looking at Peach's SpecialLw which has an Offset of 2159C and in the info box it directs you to Sub Routine 15E08
Now if I change the 4th digit of the 2159C (9) and increase it by 1, that makes the series of numbers 215AC which gives me an entirely new set of information
Is this information still related to her SpecialLw or have is it completely unrelated due to me altering the offset? I'm wondering because it mentions something about If Bit is Set: LA-Float[100] (doesn't that have something to do with those visible hitboxes which yellow spheres showing where hitboxes are?) and there's also a lot of mention 11031400 which if I'm not mistaken creates the glow of a sword...and Peach doesn't have any moves that include a sword let alone a glowing one...well apart from when she pulls up a Beam Sword
...
Should I just give up? xD
So in PSA when you look at the Offset for something it gives a code with a series of numbers and letters
I was wondering - if you alter the offset by increasing the value of one of the digits does that show you more information of the event?
For example, I'm looking at Peach's SpecialLw which has an Offset of 2159C and in the info box it directs you to Sub Routine 15E08
Now if I change the 4th digit of the 2159C (9) and increase it by 1, that makes the series of numbers 215AC which gives me an entirely new set of information
Is this information still related to her SpecialLw or have is it completely unrelated due to me altering the offset? I'm wondering because it mentions something about If Bit is Set: LA-Float[100] (doesn't that have something to do with those visible hitboxes which yellow spheres showing where hitboxes are?) and there's also a lot of mention 11031400 which if I'm not mistaken creates the glow of a sword...and Peach doesn't have any moves that include a sword let alone a glowing one...well apart from when she pulls up a Beam Sword
...
Should I just give up? xD
[TSON]
Hella.
If you increase by 10 in hex all you're doing is moving down a tad on the list you were already looking at, lol. Now if you increase by 100, THEN you get some new information usually. But Peach's down special is ITEMS. Not Articles. They are in common3. You won't find anything here at all.
[TSON]
Hella.
That's not true. Look for yourself. The only thing I could think of the turnip to be would be the article that belongs to Peach with no actions or subactions.
Rickerdy-doo-da-day
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Ah I see thanks for clearing that up. Yea I'd be altering some of the digits and finding that I was moving down the list so I thought maybe I'd be able to uncover some more info about the move I was looking at. Thanks for clearing that up xD
So effectivly, with PSA I'm wasting my time because that just shows me a mechanic, it doesn't actually tell me what it does? Common3 can only be viewed via BrawlBox correct? What should I look for in Common3? I've viewed it in BrawlBox and didn't find much apart from Model and Texture Data and Animation data that didn't make a right lot of sense. Am I looking in the wrong area?
Thankyou for being so patient with me xD
[TSON]
Hella.
Common3 has to be hexxed.
Rickerdy-doo-da-day
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Oh
Erm, what does that do? Make common3 readable in PSA? I remember reading Brawl works with a hexadecimal thingy. How do you hex something? Or is it something that no one knows how to do
Erm, what does that do? Make common3 readable in PSA? I remember reading Brawl works with a hexadecimal thingy. How do you hex something? Or is it something that no one knows how to do
[TSON]
Hella.
...
Hexing is reading through raw data in a hex editor and tampering with the hexadecimal values that make up the file.
Hexing is reading through raw data in a hex editor and tampering with the hexadecimal values that make up the file.
[TSON]
Hella.
Change Action (Requirement: Compare: RA-Float[0] and 1) is how articles tell how long they have existed and go to the explosion or disappearing subaction at the right time. If you change this to a Nop: then they will continue going forever. This is how I made Melee Yoshi eggs.
[TSON]
Hella.
TaroNuke found that the two variables under Initial Run Velcoity affect Run Speed :V (didnt see that one coming)
Eldiran
Smash Lord
I actually did a lot of testing/checking on those attributes and the two after them. Here are my results:
Attributes
0x020 = 30 for ALL characters
0x024 = 3 for ALL characters
0x028 = usually 1
0x02C = usually 1.3 (Falco is 1.1, Luigi is 0.7, Warioman is 3)
I modified them, but didn't find anything changed. Then again I may not have been looking hard enough.
[TSON]
Hella.
06020200 = change hitbox size? Needs testing and unfortunately I can't right now. Parameter 0 is in scalar, I know that much.
If Compare: RA Basic[2] <= -1
Generate Article: 2
Else
Generate Item 5-20000002
End if
I've used Generate Article: 2 to spawn turnips before on Peach (Peach was the first character I PSA'd, for Rachel Alucard of BlazBlue)
the Generate Item thingy with strange values is, I believe, some random generator for Bobombs, Saturns, or Swords.
But I'm not good at code, this is all guesswork.
[TSON]
Hella.
WTF. Peach's article 2 is Toad, not turnips... o.O? There's a SpecialN animation and SpecialNHit... And even the 'spit' hitboxes..
[TSON]
Hella.
"0x020 is normally 30 for everyone (because speed is determined with animation) but setting it to 0.1 makes the animation play at normal speed but have the character take a while to hit top speed during a dash from the start"
Eldiran
Smash Lord
That sounds... really useful for people trying to use Character Momentum to use their characters. Interesting.
MAYBE MY PSA IS WEIRD CUZ LIKE
Special N for me has Article 1
and Special Lw for me has a subroutine which I posted up there which has Article 2.
And Article 0 is the umbrella.
[TSON]
Hella.
...Maybe Dant's dumper is bugged then. Because article 0 in the text has no actions or subactions...