The Big MI Discussion Topic

[kd-]

I'd rather spend all day getting nothing for my work than paying for my work, it's the strive of life for an anti-pot monster

 

[Juggleguy]

What if I said at the end of a tourney that the payout would be money back for everyone? That's an extreme example, but you would definitely feel cheated for even bothering to compete in the first place, only to find out nobody will make money or lose money.

 

[Prince_Abu]

i agree with juggleguy on this

 

[kd-]

Depends I guess. I'd probably feel somewhere in/between jaded and cynical for bothering to compete - not cheated, but basically the same feeling anyway.

But at the same time, from a purist sort of standing I'd also feel nonchalant about it, seeing as I don't win money anyway.

When it comes down to it, we're gambling - we're just betting on ourselves. It's fun to have 'the stakes raised' so that everyone gives it their best shot, but at my skill level it's nice to walk away with something rather than nothing, even if that something was what you came with. Not in the negative feelsgoodman

 

[rokimomi]

but chad, even if you won a tourney, ud yell at us for not being good and 'letting' you win, ^_^

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

I would enter tournaments if they were free besides venue and had no payout.

Also my old UMHS card doesn't expire until 2014, I have free bus fare... Smash?

 

[What's The Point]

I told Roller to plan lots of smash till PS3 so just be ready every day except Thursday,

 

[kd-]

but chad, even if you won a tourney, ud yell at us for not being good and 'letting' you win, ^_^

Lolol even if everyone didn't try and I did, I still wouldn't win a tourney. And if tourneys were free entry I probably wouldn't try either

 

[slayertokey]

I thought about buying him a retail copy of Melee one time. I got sick of texture/music hacks after about five times playing with them.

i had one, i let nick borrow it and it disappeared. i also have a burned copy but idk where it is. i can always burn a new one.

i'm going inactive for awhile. if you need to get a hold of me just call me. hidden boss mode engage. peace.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Good I'm planning on winning ps3

 

[Roller]

Brawl PR panel members. Check the group discussion.

 

[Soloist]

i had one, i let nick borrow it and it disappeared. i also have a burned copy but idk where it is. i can always burn a new one.

i'm going inactive for awhile. if you need to get a hold of me just call me. hidden boss mode engage. peace.

I'll be contacting you for sexy time.

 

[Juggleguy]

Anyone from AA want to go to EL tonight for Melee? Smashfest with Teczero/Jungle/Shady/Dope/Tremor/others is happening.

I want to go but I'd rather split the $15-20 or so in gas money...

 

[King5280]

do it
10char

 

[MegaRobMan]

Posting for Thugz

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319060

All of you should MB with him up here, though.

 

[kd-]

If I did go I want that 1v1 on iceworld

 

[Roller]

Why am I so bad at this game?

 

[Ori_bro]

Why am I so bad at this game?

It's 9B, he puts anyone who has and will put their cursor on to shame.

Spoiler

He has also never lost a set to a Metaknight before :o

 

[Roller]

He has never not won a tournament since picking up ICs, period.

 

[Ori_bro]

He has never not won a tournament since picking up ICs, period.

9B also hasn't fought against Nietono, Otori, and Rain in a while according to Keitaro's Blog. Regardless he is still one of my favorite Japanese players to watch.

 

[Roller]

I think last time he played any of them was December... And he won.

Granted him vs Rain is often by the skin of his teeth.

 

[What's The Point]

Pfft, I'd win with Falco.

 

[Damittom]

Yeah because we all know the Japanese meta-game is "underdeveloped"

 

[Roller]

On rainbow Cruise it is.


Also, I just realized that in the japanese ruleset you are only allowed to ban counterpick stages, not neutrals.

 

[kd-]

That's a pretty cool idea in theory, would SUCK not banning FD against Marth though. I dunno how Foxes beat him there, pure skill or something. Someone's Fox vs HomeMadeWaffles' Marth on FD said it best: "Everytime you get a grab, just let go and I'll just kill myself, it'll be faster"

 

[What's The Point]

That really makes no sense. Where did you see that part of the rules? Even if it is a part of their rules it should be completely ignored for being stupid.

 

[Roller]

I mean. There's a reason 9b, kakera, suinoko, and all those other ground based rapists actually get to play on FD all the time...

 

[Damittom]

You guys didn't know that they couldn't ban neutrals? It makes the counter-picking process a lot quicker but it also gives some characters a huge boost.

 

[What's The Point]

Anyone who runs a tournament with Japanese rules should ignore that part.

 

[kd-]

That really makes no sense. Where did you see that part of the rules? Even if it is a part of their rules it should be completely ignored for being stupid.

It makes sense if you think about the letter of the law; Neutral stages imply that they are fair (although allow for differences) for both parties and the match up, and counterpicks should yield some extremely marginal yet noticeable difference. Things like the low ceiling on Pokemon Stadium 1 for Fox or being able to float over cars on Mute City come to mind. I like entertaining this idea and it would be pretty cool to have this in a perfect world.

The problem is, of course, that we're not in a perfect world. Not every character is perfect (maybe Fox el oh el), neutral stages aren't all neutral for each matchup and not every character has a counterpick. I wish it was a perfect world though, it'd be fun. And hacked Green Greens.

 

[Juushichi]

No. The Japanese are always right.

Man up and play vs IC's on FD. If it's a neutral, you should always be able to play on it.

That being said, FD is the best stage in the game. Best determinant of skill, imo. No platforms or moving bull**** like SV or BF.

 

[SCOTU]

Platforms are the best part of smash

 

[Hot_ArmS]

i don't have a problem playing ic's on fd

 

[What's The Point]

Neutral is so old. They're Starters now. And it's not all ICs and FD. Against plenty of characters I'd ban BF instead of a CP given the Japanese stage list. Why have striking, which is single game bans, for the first game instead of picking randomly between the stages if you can't later ban one of those stages? Why have CPs at all if the first three stages are deemed so good that you can't use a ban on them?

 

[Roller]

...To give a player an advantage.

 

[Damittom]

lets get to the real issue with our ruleset why the **** is a starter i dont think anyone ever plays here game 1

 

[Ori_bro]

lets get to the real issue with our ruleset why the **** is a starter i dont think anyone ever plays here game 1

That is an ideal stage for an to go to, and from the **** at I witnessed at APEX done by Roller on that stage I guess its good for in certain MUs.

 

[JTsm]

9B ***** for daysssss. Wished he would've went to Apex.

 

[Ori_bro]

If I go to SRT, I will write scrolls filled with his words of wisdom. It will become the bible.

 

[MegaRobMan]

lets get to the real issue with our ruleset why the **** is a starter i dont think anyone ever plays here game 1

megarobman agrees with dammittom.

That's easily the worst starter. like WOW. I get that 7 stages makes more sense than 5 because of the FD situation and PS1 being stupid too, but Holy crap, Delfino is more of a starter than siege.

See previous post for a real mans stage list.