The Best Move?

[JOE!]

how early does the Zair kill though?

are we talking: "yeah! it can kill at 9001%!!! so it's a kill move!!!"


I still say MK's Dair

 

[zeldspazz]

We've done this kind of thread before havent we?

Snake's utilt was best
Mario's dtilt was worst

?

 

[phi1ny3]

Milln sphere.
It's an Aura Sphere that ignores reflectors/absorbers/bucket.
Lolz.

 

[1048576]

The top 5 are...

1. Tornado
2. Shuttle Loop
3. MK's D-Smash
4. MK's Dair
5. MK's f-tilt

Then MK's uair then Snake has his crap and then things get interesting

 

[Meru.]

After reading Successor or Raphael's post, I agree that it's the best move.

 

[Ninja Kirby Nick!]

FALCON PAWNCH is the most epic move in the game...but not the best.

You can tell that it's coming from a mile away, you have to REALLY suprise them...

Snake's forward tilt for the win .

 

[Tiender Bocks]

FALCON PAWNCH. Just because it's epic.

Otherwise, I would say Wario's nearly-fully charged waft.

Edit: Ninja Kirby, I swear you read my mind or something.

 

[★Malik★™]

The top 5 are...

1. Tornado
2. Shuttle Loop
3. MK's D-Smash
4. MK's Dair
5. MK's f-tilt

Then MK's uair then Snake has his crap and then things get interesting

Spam? (Meta Knight)

the best move i think is the best is probably..ummm probably snake's uTilt. i hate it sooo much, but it can kill.

no, scratch that. Falcon Punch is the best. its also fun, funny, and epic to use. like when you land it on the air or at a point off the stage.

 

[thanortinzak]

How about Dedede's ftilt? It's the best poking/punishing move in the game.

 

[Kinzer]

It refreshes the rest of Samus's moveset, which is much appreciated when it comes to someone like her.

I thought Samus' Zair didn't even refresh other moves. I knew it never decayed, but it still counts as a tally?

If that's true, then this attack really does ****.

 

[Riickable]

Omg...

Meta Knight

vB

Mash C-Stick Upwards

That wasn't hard, was it?

 

[Ninja Kirby Nick!]

I change that. Falcon Pawnch is best move when someone is off an edge. Like so xD (1:06 for the 1st epic part)

 

[:mad:]

I change that. Falcon Pawnch is best move when someone is on an edge. Especially an Olimar player .

Do we really need a Punch/Knee joke in every thread from multiple people? They're both horrible moves.

And no, Threemanuel, Dedede's Ftilt isn't the best poking move in the game.

 

[Ninja Kirby Nick!]

Do we really need a Punch/Knee joke in every thread from multiple people? They're both horrible moves.

And no, Threemanuel, Dedede's Ftilt isn't the best poking move in the game.

Horrible laggy moves, yes. But the most epic moves in Brawl >_>. Seriously, nothing is more epic than the falcon pawnch . Unless Snake does it .

 

[Luigi player]

DKs giant punch is really good...

 

[:mad:]

Horrible laggy moves, yes. But the most epic moves in Brawl >_>. Seriously, nothing is more epic than the falcon pawnch . Unless Snake does it .

I'd disagree. We aren't talking about your opinion on "epic" moves.

If we were, I'd probably tell you Mario's Fair (The Rihanna) is the coolest.

And I'm liking the Samus Zair arguments.

 

[demonictoonlink]

Toon Link's Zair

 

[Slasherx]

I don't find Snake's move to be fairly hard to counter,
just use your shield option, or moves with longer range.

However I find that Olimar grabs can be hard to punish, especially on a full on defenses Olimar.

 

[My Cat Owns]

I would make a punch joke, but it seems it's been overused... I sincerely think Mach tornado has to be the best. It builds a good amount of damage, it can pressure shields (and if you attack a shielding opponent you have enough time to DI the tornado to a safe location from them), It actually can KO on it's last hit so long as you don't spam it; and it's near impossible to escape.

And please don't reply saying the mach tornado is 'easy to escape', cause it's not.

 

[Ninja Kirby Nick!]

I'd disagree. We aren't talking about your opinion on "epic" moves.

If we were, I'd probably tell you Mario's Fair (The Rihanna) is the coolest.

And I'm liking the Samus Zair arguments.

I guess so ...Captian Falcon is bottom tier for a reason...He has total epicness rather than quick and lagless moves ...

I have to say for me, Kirby's bair, due to the fact that I can quickly use it, and is K.Oable, but that's MY opinion .

Samus's Zair is pretty cool as well, due to the fact that it quickly comes back as soon as you touch the ground..

I'm also gonna stop talking to you, due to the fact that Mods scare me >_<. No offense...I'm just scared to be penalized for doing something is all D:.

 

[demonictoonlink]

Tornado isn't even a top ten move. Tornado>Bad players, like...completely... but it is completely avoidable. Certain characters are destroyed by it, but most have decent ways around it.

Also...It's not too easy using moves that outspace Snake's Ftilt...

 

[Slasherx]

I would make a punch joke, but it seems it's been overused... I sincerely think Mach tornado has to be the best. It builds a good amount of damage, it can pressure shields (and if you attack a shielding opponent you have enough time to DI the tornado to a safe location from them), It actually can KO on it's last hit so long as you don't spam it; and it's near impossible to escape.

And please don't reply saying the mach tornado is 'easy to escape', cause it's not.

Alright...Howbout shield option?
Btw jabs or other short-frame moves allow you to clash with mach tornado and cancel it...
Also I'm not saying that everyone can cancel it, but they still have the ability to shield it.

 

[BSP]

I would say snake's u-tilt. But i think snake's whole moveset is too good, i mean like every single move he has can kill.

 

[cutter]

Tornado is good and it does see use in high levels of play, but Shuttle Loop is overall better in terms of versatility. I'd probably put tornado in the lower top 10.

Shuttle Loop gimps at alarmingly low %s, is a kill move on the ground, rejects most approaches because of the range and invincibility frames, goes right into a glide to keep it from being easily punishable, and it gives MK ways to safely recover back to the stage (ie Shuttle Loop into the ledge, or ground-cancelled Shuttle Loop).

Shuttle Loop is the "best" move in the game because it is just an incredibly versatile move.

 

[CRASHiC]

I'm gonna go out on a long shot here and say Samus's Zair.
Amazing range.
No lag.
High priority.
If only everything else about samus wasn't so bad.

 

[lil cj]

If Samus' Zair was the best move then she would be s tier, but shes not.
There is no best move overall, it depends on what kind of move.
Like best dsmash is MK's
Best uair is ZSS
Best jab is Ike's
and so on.
I admit Samus has the best zair but not the best move in the game...thats just crazy.
Its nowhere near as good as Shuttle Loop....if your gonna pick the "best move" then your best bet is Shuttle Loop

 

[IxxI]

Snake's Utilt is the best move in the game because it meets all of the criteria that makes a move good.

• Is it fast?
• Can it kill?
• Good priority?
• Is it safe?
• Does it have good range?

Other moves beat Zelda's Uair easily, like Meta Knight's Dsmash, Shuttle Loop, Dedede's Grab, and Marth's Fair. Her Uair isn't even... good, really.

Snake's UTilt 10x. That for FTilt. MK's Shuffle Loop comes in close though.

 

[Johnknight1]

Luigi's down taunt.

 

[flyingpork002]

hahahahahahahahaha agreed, thread closed good sir!

 

[themrskills]

Lucas' upsmash has insane killing potential. I think I've killed Diddy at 55% before(no DI though)

 

[Phir3]

If Samus' Zair was the best move then she would be s tier, but shes not.
There is no best move overall, it depends on what kind of move.
Like best dsmash is MK's
Best uair is ZSS
Best jab is Ike's
and so on.
I admit Samus has the best zair but not the best move in the game...thats just crazy.
Its nowhere near as good as Shuttle Loop....if your gonna pick the "best move" then your best bet is Shuttle Loop

I have no idea, but i thought ROB's Dsmash was better..... and I'd say Wario's Uair is better than ZSS's....

Oh, and a while ago Gates said that D3's grabs were far superior to Shuttle loop and Mach Tornado.

 

[BSP]

Lucas' upsmash has insane killing potential. I think I've killed Diddy at 55% before(no DI though)

Good yes, but I don't think it's the best. It leaves him too open, but it is a good move imo.

 

[cutter]

G&W's Usmash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lucas's Usmash

G&W's Usmash has a 2-3 frame charge release and is safe on block.

Get ***** Lucas.

 

[BSP]

G&W's Usmash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lucas's Usmash

G&W's Usmash has a 2-3 frame charge release and is safe on block.

Get ***** Lucas.

lol speaking of which, i was fighting a g and w, got hit by a full charge u smash DIED AT 63% yeah it's pretty strong.

 

[flyingpork002]

yeah lucas' upsmash is nowhere near being the best move, not even best up-smash. Maybe if we were talking about best killing move against a lvl 1 gannondorf who spends more time doing the standard idle motions than moving, Lucas' upsmash would have a chance. But... other than that, it's just too situational to be that good.

 

[lil cj]

I have no idea, but i thought ROB's Dsmash was better..... and I'd say Wario's Uair is better than ZSS's....

Oh, and a while ago Gates said that D3's grabs were far superior to Shuttle loop and Mach Tornado.

I think ROB's is just a fast as MK's, but not good at killing though
Zelda's is also just as fast.
Oh yea Wario's uair is better than ZSS's lol...i forgot
D3's grabs better than Shuttle Loop and Tornado???
I dont get that one lol

yeah lucas' upsmash is nowhere near being the best move, not even best up-smash. Maybe if we were talking about best killing move against a lvl 1 gannondorf who spends more time doing the standard idle motions than moving, Lucas' upsmash would have a chance. But... other than that, it's just too situational to be that good.

I dont think he was saying it was the best, he was just pointing out how strong it is.
Its the 2nd strongest upsmash after Ivysaur's
Lucas' upsmash is more of a punishing move.
Also its works best on Brinstar....mindgames

 

[BSP]

Wait, Lucas' u smash is stronger than g and w's?

 

[choknater]

yeah, i believe so

 

[JOE!]

Ivysaurs is stonger then both of them


Anywho, I still say MK's D-Air is the best move

 

[flyingpork002]

as far as u smashes go g&ws is by far the best balance between speed and damage. And after that i'd probably prefer ivysaurs over lucas... not that i would ever play as ivysaur