The Best Move In Melee.

[sauc3]

roy's dtilt on any other character,

 

[Ryucloud]

Hands down Fox neutral air

 

[ChivalRuse]

Nah. You just run back and grab that shiz.

 

[Nø Ca$h]

DI is the best move in melee.

 

[Animal]

peach down smash. 60 percent damage wtffmqewij ngqiegnqerp

 

[AnDaLe]

Floating is the best move. Auto cancels everything, u can move anywere, etc. etc.
Or turnip/bomb pulling.

 

[All_Characters]

Well the way I see it, you have to look at moves which make characters usable.

Without falco's shine, he would be far far worse than he currently is. Little or no ability to put together most combos without it.

While fox, although he would be far worse, would not be as damaged by the loss of his shine.

Jiggs can survive for sure without rest, although it's still a great move.

Sheik would have a rough time without d-throw, but i think with ftilt she'll still be able to pull off combos.

Jiggs would have a pretty rough time without bair. Fair and nair would not be able to pick up the slack i think.

Peach would be hurt quite a bit with the loss of the dsmash, not just because it's a great move, but also because not people will not be afraid to go close to peach. Peach still has other strong attacks though, and the dsmash only get's super powerful on fastfallers.

So overall

Falco shine or Jiggs bair
Peach dsmash
Fox Shine
Sheik dthrow

 

[choknater]

hm people don't really talk about marth's fair anymore

 

[Blistering Speed]

^^^

True, it's better then every aerial I've seen mentioned so far. Jiggs' B Air, Fox B Air, the sex kicks, F Air's better then them all.

Before you say Jiggs' B Air's better, F Air's range is near identical (though I think it's slightly LARGER), it covers more of his body (like the entire front 180 degrees) and comes out faster (frame 4). Edgeguards and combos very well.

 

[Magus420]

When talking about the moves themselves, no one should mention Jiggs' b-air before Zelda's. Comes out twice as fast (frame 5, which is the same time Marth's f-air hits in front of him), 1 less landing lag, same autocancel, IASA is 2 later but total duration is 4 less, range and disjointedness are about the same, crazy powerful, and even the flub hit does decent damage and would be good for combos on a more mobile character. Jiggs would be broke as **** with that move instead.

 

[DTR]

even though the move itself is better frame/power wise, jiggs bair is better due to her air movement. its much harder to bait someone into a lightning kick then it is jiggs bair

 

[Magus420]

You missed my point entirely.

 

[Divinokage]

When talking about the moves themselves, no one should mention Jiggs' b-air before Zelda's. Comes out twice as fast (frame 5, which is the same time Marth's f-air hits in front of him), 1 less landing lag, same autocancel, IASA is 2 later but total duration is 4 less, range and disjointedness are about the same, crazy powerful, and even the flub hit does decent damage and would be good for combos on a more mobile character. Jiggs would be broke as **** with that move instead.

Rofl Jiggs with a lightning kick... His bair as strong as knees gg.. the Ganon/jiggs matchup would be like 70-30 for Jiggs with that, maybe even worse. I mean he would be able to shield pressure all day and trading with Ganon would also be a good idea lol.

The dude in your avatar is that Laharl eating a doll? lol.

 

[DTR]

You missed my point entirely.

oops. forgot the first sentence after reading the whole post

 

[HawaiianJigglyPuff]

all phantom hits are the best

 

[BOASTMASTERFLEX]

The shine in general is the most useful move in the game

 

[Mc.Rad]

shine easily

if it hits a character off stage it has this odd amount of knock back that prevents any character from recovering if they have only their up-b. it hits them the exact length of a characters up-b plus just a little bit extra

it makes no sense. not even pika can recover if shined out of his up-b

except if you counter it with marth

 

[valakmtnsmash4]

Why did you guys bring up a thread from 5 years ago? Inb4 mods come and say the same thing