The Battle for Power! (Matchmaking & Video Thread)

[Opana]

So I will not be able to upload matchless Verm, as my phone with which I record is missing atm.

When xmas comes around I should be able to again; I didn't save them all as I ran out of replay room, but I got some good ones as well as some ones where you destroyed me lol.

 

[Vermanubis]

Don't sweat it, buddy.

In other video-related events, I finally got some Olimar matches:

 

[KingPinGamez]

Don't sweat it, buddy.

In other video-related events, I finally got some Olimar matches:

amazing player. DO you have a Wii U? I would love to see better quality

 

[Sykkamorre]

Just thought I'd leave this here, since I figured out how to upload using my tablet...

Ganondorf for top tier.

 

[Vermanubis]

amazing player. DO you have a Wii U? I would love to see better quality

Thanks, man.

Unfortunately, no WiiU yet though. Soon to come, but for now, keeping it real with my Flinstones recording technology!

@ Sykkamorre : So I'm guessing he later begged you to initiate him to our brotherhood? Showed him that having Ganon as his daddy would behoove his mortal soul infinitely more than Bowser?

 

[KingPinGamez]

Thanks, man.

Unfortunately, no WiiU yet though. Soon to come, but for now, keeping it real with my Flinstones recording technology!

@ Sykkamorre : So I'm guessing he later begged you to initiate him to our brotherhood? Showed him that having Ganon as his daddy would behoove his mortal soul infinitely more than Bowser?

Alright!
At someone's request I will place the video here also.

I hope I did not break any rules or anything.
Looking forward to providing more videos for the community

 

[Opana]

Don't sweat it, buddy.

In other video-related events, I finally got some Olimar matches:

I've only fought one Olimar who know what they were doing, being Dabuz of course lol. Was on a live stream, two stocked me and I sadly couldn't stick around for a rematch.

Verm, I'd like some more mirrors at some point if you're up for it.

 

[Sykkamorre]

Thanks, man.

Unfortunately, no WiiU yet though. Soon to come, but for now, keeping it real with my Flinstones recording technology!

@ Sykkamorre : So I'm guessing he later begged you to initiate him to our brotherhood? Showed him that having Ganon as his daddy would behoove his mortal soul infinitely more than Bowser?

Silly Verm, of course he didn't. That final kick terminally separated the top portion of his head from his jaw.
He won't be talking much except for a strangled gurgling noise.

But I'm glad this pleases the brotherhood. I shall offer more unto this dark coven.

 

[adom4]

Time to make my first contribution to this thread

 

[Hi-Hatz]

I've got the perfect video to compliment that Bowser Jr. video; I fought his dad:

And here are two more videos. Me using statues:

Me vs. Palutena:

I thought I would prefer a blurry video to an ugly, banded one, but now I'm not sure.

 

[Vermanubis]

Those frame extensions on the statues! It'll be so nice to use Castle Siege as a viable stage now that walk-offs aren't a deathtrap.

As for me, got one last one of Villager coming up:

Spoiler

Also, don't forget to look at Hi-Hatz' stuff, too:

Spoiler

I've got the perfect video to compliment that Bowser Jr. video; I fought his dad:

And here are two more videos. Me using statues:

Me vs. Palutena:

I thought I would prefer a blurry video to an ugly, banded one, but now I'm not sure.

 

[Opana]

I wish I could watch all these vids, will likely be able to soon on an xmas tablet.

Happy xmas all btw

 

[adom4]

Those frame extensions on the statues! It'll be so nice to use Castle Siege as a viable stage now that walk-offs aren't a deathtrap.

As for me, got one last one of Villager coming up:

Spoiler

Also, don't forget to look at Hi-Hatz' stuff, too:

Do you have any tips against Villager?
Whenever i face him i have a lot of trouble, especially with recovering.

 

[Vermanubis]

Villager's definitely a top 5 bad MU for us, imo. The gimps and keep-away against Ganon are ridiculous.

That being said though, just keep a few things about Villager in mind:

-Lloid rocket approaches
-Turnip/NAir gimps
-FAir/BAir spam

Lloid rocket is just like Bowser Jr.'s mecha koopa - it's a mix-up device. It forces you to either jump or shield, and the Villager will either intercept your jump or grab your shield. So you have to call their bluff. For instance, at the beginning of the vid, I assumed he was going to try to grab my shield, so I jumped and used down-b. Other times he might try to slingshot you, in which case, PS the rocket and punish with an aerial.

As for gimps, the turnips stay out FOREVER. It's legit infuriating how long that hitbox lasts. So either recover low, recover very high, or intercept the gimp with an aerial. He can also slingshot you so make sure you go low if you suspect he'll try to.

Also, bowling balls... bowling balls are more gimmicky than anything, but can still getcha. If he's just chilling by the ledge and you think he's gonna drop a ball, recover a little early or if he's already charging it, try to wait it out, use side-b to go over it, or just recover high. In certain situations, you'll just be in a position where your just can't avoid it, but you can most of the time with good timing and spacing. You have to be hugging the line of the ledge to get hit by it, so if you can recover before reaching its line of descent, go for it.

 

[adom4]

Villager's definitely a top 5 bad MU for us, imo. The gimps and keep-away against Ganon are ridiculous.

That being said though, just keep a few things about Villager in mind:

-Lloid rocket approaches
-Turnip/NAir gimps
-FAir/BAir spam

Lloid rocket is just like Bowser Jr.'s mecha koopa - it's a mix-up device. It forces you to either jump or shield, and the Villager will either intercept your jump or grab your shield. So you have to call their bluff. For instance, at the beginning of the vid, I assumed he was going to try to grab my shield, so I jumped and used down-b. Other times he might try to slingshot you, in which case, PS the rocket and punish with an aerial.

As for gimps, the turnips stay out FOREVER. It's legit infuriating how long that hitbox lasts. So either recover low, recover very high, or intercept the gimp with an aerial. He can also slingshot you so make sure you go low if you suspect he'll try to.

Also, bowling balls... bowling balls are more gimmicky than anything, but can still getcha. If he's just chilling by the ledge and you think he's gonna drop a ball, recover a little early or if he's already charging it, try to wait it out, use side-b to go over it, or just recover high. In certain situations, you'll just be in a position where your just can't avoid it, but you can most of the time with good timing and spacing. You have to be hugging the line of the ledge to get hit by it, so if you can recover before reaching its line of descent, go for it.

Slingshots & recovering are my biggest problems, if spaced well the slingshots are near impossible to punish & bowling ball over the edge is pretty nasty.
I do try to mix up my recoveries against Villager but recovering high with Dorf is pretty risky.

 

[Vermanubis]

It's really tough to codify exactly how to recover against a character with so many options like Villager, but generally you're in the best position when you have your second jump. If at all possible, don't let him line up with you for a slingshot hit, use second jumps to weave out of turnip attacks, and recover high against bowling balls.

As for on-stage slingshots, one big mistake is to keep running forward after you've been hit by one. If you try to run after being hit by one, your shield won't come out before he fires the next one, so you'll get hit by a bunch in a row. Like with Olimar, you wanna push him to the corner, and with adequate foresight, PS the slingshots and try to punish landings with wizkick or challenge him with aerials if his airspace is limited.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Vs Villager I feel is doable, but in my limited experience, you have to win very carefully before you reach high percents. Once he gets you to high percents, it becomes very difficult to regain momentum against him when random Slingshot hits in addition to the other mentioned zoning tools get really lame.

I pretty much agree with most of what's been said already. If he does it too close to you, you can beat Lloid Rocket by blitzing through it with DA or Wizkick. I want to say at the moment I think this matchup is more tedious than horrible for Ganondorf, skewed to Villager's favor obviously mostly because Slingshot spam is legitimately OP. I thought the devs learned their lesson with Falco (given his laser nerfs), but yeah...Slingshot gets especially scary once it starts putting you offstage.

 

[Poxnixles]

Far from my best play, but serves its purpose as a capture card test.

 

[MagiusNecros]

I've got the perfect video to compliment that Bowser Jr. video; I fought his dad:

God damn that Bowser sucked. That Bowser makes my Bowser matches godlike.

 

[Z1GMA]

Far from my best play, but serves its purpose as a capture card test.

What Capture Card are you using? I'm thinking of bying a new one, but I've got no idea what to choose.

 

[adom4]

Anyone up for some matches?

 

[Ray_Kalm]

@ Z1GMA ; Try the Elgato HD60.

https://www.elgato.com/en/gaming/game-capture-hd60

 

[Poxnixles]

What Capture Card are you using? I'm thinking of bying a new one, but I've got no idea what to choose.

http://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-Recorder-C985-Capture-Stream/dp/B007UXJ6LE
This is what I'm using.

 

[jmanup85]

I also want a capture card so I can start recording and uploading my battles with other players and such. How exactly do they work?

 

[Vermanubis]

Only a few more characters and I'll have vids against the entire cast. Here're a few for Yoshi.

Spoiler

Also, I know nothing about CCs, so I can't contribute anything meaningful here, unfortunately.

 

[jahkzheng]

@ Sykkamorre

Hey, finally back home after the holidays and just thought I'd let you know I still haven't gotten my tourney match in but expect to this week... and it would be cool to have a few warm dittos like we did a couple weeks ago before my tourney match fell through then, heh. Haven't even played with anyone since then, being busy. Invites out there again basically.

I should find a way to upload matches too btw. Just have always felt like I should cap card or nothing since I care about quality... although you're tablet video looks nice.

 

[Sykkamorre]

@ Sykkamorre

Hey, finally back home after the holidays and just thought I'd let you know I still haven't gotten my tourney match in but expect to this week... and it would be cool to have a few warm dittos like we did a couple weeks ago before my tourney match fell through then, heh. Haven't even played with anyone since then, being busy. Invites out there again basically.

I should find a way to upload matches too btw. Just have always felt like I should cap card or nothing since I care about quality... although you're tablet video looks nice.

Heh, i'd be game for more games with ya! It'll be nice after getting wrecked viciously by gungnir to stand a chance in a match xD

 

[KieRanaRan]

I've never done a video before, but I think I'll throw up a match or two tomorrow (or whenever I'm free). Would love some constructive feedback! ^_^

 

[Scarlet Jile]

Only a few more characters and I'll have vids against the entire cast. Here're a few for Yoshi.

Spoiler

Also, I know nothing about CCs, so I can't contribute anything meaningful here, unfortunately.

That up-tilt made my balls shrivel in sympathy.

I think this match-up is strongly in Yoshi's favor, too.

 

[Opana]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1rqhe66SFZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh-scRDC9JM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg_K1Tp3CkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBw7YD9QeTA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6GYr5I1V1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa3AW9qEtig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRa2K6cumek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX9OzNx8Kp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0k-tP0UzaE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL5QT4LJCs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg8vLqgaIfI

A good chunk of me and Verm's mirrors. As the matches went on he decimated me, they're a bit out of order though

Awesome games again.

 

[Vermanubis]

Yeah, GGs, buddy!

I recorded a good chunk of 'em as well, so I'll look through 'em and upload whatever ones I have that didn't get saved already.

 

[Opana]

Yeah I'd love that, I didn't have much room so I tried to pick good ones lol.

I don't care about the outcome, they were all intense and it's the battle that counts.

 

[Vermanubis]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1rqhe66SFZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh-scRDC9JM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg_K1Tp3CkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBw7YD9QeTA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6GYr5I1V1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa3AW9qEtig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRa2K6cumek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX9OzNx8Kp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0k-tP0UzaE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL5QT4LJCs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg8vLqgaIfI

A good chunk of me and Verm's mirrors. As the matches went on he decimated me, they're a bit out of order though

Awesome games again.

I agree, the quality of the match is a good criterion to go by! I had 5 or so that weren't here already, but these three were the most drawn-out of them/had a good amount of good plays on both sides.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FroyZ0IMKdI

 

[Opana]

Looking forward to watching.

 

[jahkzheng]

Heh, i'd be game for more games with ya! It'll be nice after getting wrecked viciously by gungnir to stand a chance in a match xD

Available today for a couple hours before I'd like to try and get my tourney match done. If you're here now, playing some rounds in a few minutes would be cool. If you're not, I can wait an hour and change, but I don't want to be late for my tourney match if epi is ready to go sooner than later. Gave him a 3 hour window to meet and match two hours from now.

 

[Sykkamorre]

Here's a vid of one of the friendly matches between me and jahkzheng.
Let's just Say I didn't deserve this win.

You'll want to watch it in high quality, since my tablet doesn't seem to get on well with this stages lighting.

 

[Filosafer]

@ Sykkamorre He mad. Dem barrels. You earned that last kill, but you should go to the casino. GF

 

[Ray_Kalm]

Edited the OP with a bunch of the recently posted videos.

 

[Opana]

I am happy with the vid you posted up lol, I got lucky with that fair kill.

 

[Vermanubis]

Nah, you earned the kill, dude.

Though, I have to admit, out of 16 matches, you certainly picked an interesting one to post up, Kalm.